Guest admanirv Posted January 14, 2011 Report Posted January 14, 2011 (edited) I keep hearing stagefright this, stagefright that, but what exactly is it? I hear that its disabled in most roms, i believe that's because its broken? and thus the high quadrant score (which skips tests) which are actually not a true representation of performance? What does stagefright do? What is it useful/used for? I hear some people say it helps increase smoothness of playback with divX's, games etc when its enabled even though its broken so how can it improve performance? Can it be fixed? Is it worth enabling it on RSL7JJ Rom etc? Sorry for the questions but i'm sure it would benefit other users too, as there seems to be myths floating about too. Cheers Edited January 14, 2011 by admanirv
Guest xenopod Posted January 14, 2011 Report Posted January 14, 2011 I keep hearing stagefright this, stagefright that, but what exactly is it? I hear that its disabled in most roms, i believe that's because its broken? and thus the high quadrant score (which skips tests) which are actually not a true representation of performance? What does stagefright do? What is it useful/used for? I hear some people say it helps increase smoothness of playback with divX's, games etc when its enabled even though its broken so how can it improve performance? Can it be fixed? Is it worth enabling it on RSL7JJ Rom etc? Sorry for the questions but i'm sure it would benefit other users too, as there seems to be myths floating about too. Cheers New media framework (Stagefright) that supports local file playback and HTTP progressive streaming; Continued support for OpenCore in Android 2.2
Guest admanirv Posted January 14, 2011 Report Posted January 14, 2011 LOL, copy and pasted from: http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.2-highlights.html I was looking for a better answer(s) but thanks anyways.
Guest StevenHarperUK Posted January 14, 2011 Report Posted January 14, 2011 LOL, copy and pasted from: http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.2-highlights.html I was looking for a better answer(s) but thanks anyways. Ok : Stagefright is ment to improve performance. However the implmentation on the blade gives double the score in benchmarks for Quadrant - this makes us suspect that its broken. However some users say some games are better with it on. Thats it really
Guest Pelemane Posted January 14, 2011 Report Posted January 14, 2011 But are you sure its broken? my friend has SGS and he got 950 quadrant on 2.1 and over 1500 on 2.2 so thats about 600 points more im getting 580 on 2.1 and over 1100 when stagefright enabled so its about 600 more so we both have about same improvement in points
Guest admanirv Posted January 14, 2011 Report Posted January 14, 2011 Can't seem to find much info on it.
Guest xenopod Posted January 14, 2011 Report Posted January 14, 2011 to be fair i am not sure, in my r3 rom i turned it on and just played a divx and it played perfectly, so i have a feeling it handles divx code well, but and its a big but, it needs more experimenting with and feedback because i have not yet tried with stagefright off or on 2.1 eclair as yet
Guest MrHicks Posted January 14, 2011 Report Posted January 14, 2011 But are you sure its broken? my friend has SGS and he got 950 quadrant on 2.1 and over 1500 on 2.2 so thats about 600 points more im getting 580 on 2.1 and over 1100 when stagefright enabled so its about 600 more so we both have about same improvement in points That's not a real score as Quadrant and stagefright in 2.2 do not play well together. When Quadrant gets to the h264 part of the tests it blips and thinks the test has completed immediately which results in a hugely inflated score as it thinks the device was powerful enough to complete the test in 0 seconds.
Guest Pelemane Posted January 14, 2011 Report Posted January 14, 2011 That's not a real score as Quadrant and stagefright in 2.2 do not play well together. When Quadrant gets to the h264 part of the tests it blips and thinks the test has completed immediately which results in a hugely inflated score as it thinks the device was powerful enough to complete the test in 0 seconds. So is it broken in SGS too or why did he get so much more points after updating to 2.2?
Guest MrHicks Posted January 14, 2011 Report Posted January 14, 2011 So is it broken in SGS too or why did he get so much more points after updating to 2.2? Yup, it is pretty much broken for every device running 2.2 and fixed in 2.2.1.
Guest Pelemane Posted January 14, 2011 Report Posted January 14, 2011 Yup, it is pretty much broken for every device running 2.2 and fixed in 2.2.1. Ok but is it bad to have it enabled? quadrant doesnt show right points but is there anything else bad it does or is there something good it does?
Guest MrHicks Posted January 14, 2011 Report Posted January 14, 2011 Ok but is it bad to have it enabled? quadrant doesnt show right points but is there anything else bad it does or is there something good it does? In my experience the broken stagefright in 2.2 can mess with the colours and adds a green bar to the top in Youtube videos. Stagefright is also a bit more CPU intensive than Opencore. Pretty much the only reason to keep stagefright on in 2.2 is to show off an incorrect Quadrant score.
Guest xenopod Posted January 14, 2011 Report Posted January 14, 2011 (edited) In my experience the broken stagefright in 2.2 can mess with the colours and adds a green bar to the top in Youtube videos. Stagefright is also a bit more CPU intensive than Opencore. Pretty much the only reason to keep stagefright on in 2.2 is to show off an incorrect Quadrant score. well omn my R3 rom youtube is perfect no green bars and stagefright is enabled so really cannot see what you are talking about on this on cpu usage is what i would exspect pretty good really Edited January 14, 2011 by xenopod
Guest MrHicks Posted January 15, 2011 Report Posted January 15, 2011 well omn my R3 rom youtube is perfect no green bars and stagefright is enabled so really cannot see what you are talking about on this on cpu usage is what i would exspect pretty good really Do you specifically have "media.stagefright.enable-http=true" set in build.prop as well as the other stagefright settings? otherwise you may be using opencore for Youtube. Some users have reported that stagefright has approx 10% more cpu usage in decoding h264 compared to opencore.
Guest xenopod Posted January 15, 2011 Report Posted January 15, 2011 (edited) Do you specifically have "media.stagefright.enable-http=true" set in build.prop as well as the other stagefright settings? otherwise you may be using opencore for Youtube. Some users have reported that stagefright has approx 10% more cpu usage in decoding h264 compared to opencore. ro.com.google.clientidbase.ms=android-zte media.stagefright.enable-player=true media.stagefright.enable-meta=false media.stagefright.enable-scan=true media.stagefright.enable-http=false net.bt.name=Android dalvik.vm.stack-trace-file=/data/anr/traces.txt my setting that seem to work well i will turn everything on tomorrow and seee if i get a differance, but remember that it will flow through to player i bet when http is off, and opencore is over ridden, thats what the source seems to feel to me but i could be incorrect. Edited January 15, 2011 by xenopod
Guest MrHicks Posted January 15, 2011 Report Posted January 15, 2011 ro.com.google.clientidbase.ms=android-zte media.stagefright.enable-player=true media.stagefright.enable-meta=false media.stagefright.enable-scan=true media.stagefright.enable-http=false net.bt.name=Android dalvik.vm.stack-trace-file=/data/anr/traces.txt my setting that seem to work well i will turn everything on tomorrow and seee if i get a differance, but remember that it will flow through to player i bet when http is off, and opencore is over ridden, thats what the source seems to feel to me but i could be incorrect. It does not 'flow through' to player, with those settings you will be using opencore for Youtube.
Guest xenopod Posted January 15, 2011 Report Posted January 15, 2011 (edited) It does not 'flow through' to player, with those settings you will be using opencore for Youtube. we will see tomorrow Edited January 15, 2011 by xenopod
Guest Skillganon Posted January 15, 2011 Report Posted January 15, 2011 ro.com.google.clientidbase.ms=android-zte media.stagefright.enable-player=true media.stagefright.enable-meta=false media.stagefright.enable-scan=true media.stagefright.enable-http=false net.bt.name=Android dalvik.vm.stack-trace-file=/data/anr/traces.txt my setting that seem to work well i will turn everything on tomorrow and seee if i get a differance, but remember that it will flow through to player i bet when http is off, and opencore is over ridden, thats what the source seems to feel to me but i could be incorrect. The Word Highlighted suppose to be True on a normal Build. I remember with the early roms when we had a problem with green bar on youtube someone came up with a solution to disable stagefright on "Player" from "true" to false". However we noticed that in doing so it lowered the quadrant score to approx half. So we changed it back and instead disabled it on "http" which managed to keep the incorrect inflated score on quadrant.
Guest Rotmann Posted January 15, 2011 Report Posted January 15, 2011 (edited) i will turn everything on tomorrow and seee if i get a differance, but remember that it will flow through to player i bet when http is off, and opencore is over ridden, thats what the source seems to feel to me but i could be incorrect. You have to leave http false and change the other ones to true. It should look like this: media.stagefright.enable-player=true media.stagefright.enable-meta=true media.stagefright.enable-scan=true media.stagefright.enable-http=false Setting true to http will give you a green bar on HQ yoochoob ;) videos. Also if you have stagefright enabled I saw that it solved some problems with gameloft games that crashed when starting them with the message: Video can not be played. Edited January 15, 2011 by Rotmann
Guest IronDoc Posted January 15, 2011 Report Posted January 15, 2011 You have to leave http false and change the other ones to true. It should look like this: media.stagefright.enable-player=true media.stagefright.enable-meta=true media.stagefright.enable-scan=true media.stagefright.enable-http=false Setting true to http will give you a green bar on HQ yoochoob ;) videos. Also if you have stagefright enabled I saw that it solved some problems with gameloft games that crashed when starting them with the message: Video can not be played. I think KK said it tricked the game into thinking you could play the videos, so it made it let you play the game.
Guest xenopod Posted January 15, 2011 Report Posted January 15, 2011 (edited) ok got the green bar sorted in hq video sorted now, will release updated rom tomorrow. not got time right now family time and all that, still got a little work to do in the morning. Edited January 15, 2011 by xenopod
Guest Rotmann Posted January 15, 2011 Report Posted January 15, 2011 Use search before losing so much time for nothing. Flash is not compatible with the ARM6 processors we have in our sanfrans.
Guest xenopod Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 Use search before losing so much time for nothing. Flash is not compatible with the ARM6 processors we have in our sanfrans. realised its nothing to do with flash so i am forgetting that avenue, its to do with heap sizes, dont actually think stagefright s broke, will upload new rom tomorrow after i have altere a couple of things and i have tested youtube and it works perfectly in hq with no green bar, i just want to test more in the morning and then upload to you guys. will check quadrant score as well because i know what i got with settings previous, but i can say what i have tried so far seems to run really smooth and fast. dont know impact on battery thou to be fair, but time will see on that front.
Guest Meizirkki Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 I'm not getting a green bar with 64Mb heap size and stagefright on.
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