Guest ELTel2 Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 (edited) post closed. Edited January 21, 2011 by ELTel2
Guest extrememonkey Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 I may get put in my place here but..... Didn't think that a stable Cyanogen existed for the Vega yet??? or if there is one it has just been relaxed.....
Guest SilentMobius Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 (edited) Hi got my vega just before Xmas used off ebay , had the CyanogenMod ROM installed everything worked fine with no problems, at that time I didn't know there were more custom roms,so after a bit of googling I came across the Modaco rom R6 and decided to try it (liked the small top bar)after the install all worked fine(no flash had to install that separately)battery indicator a bit erratic but about the same performance as the CyanogenMod ROM.After reading through the forums and reading members satisfaction with the boost in performance after installing a prebake with PP, I decided I must try the online kitchen,paid me £9.99 got me cake and installed it, hey presto ( no difference) can anybody explain what is in the pp that might boost performance or am I missing a trick. Let the kicking start. The performance pack includes updated EGL libs from the latest Nvidia developers image. When Paul first make the PP this was a huge deal, since then others have pulled the updated libs into their own build. I don't know if the unofficial CM6 build used the updated EGL libs, if it does, that's why you wouldn't see any improvement. Edited January 19, 2011 by SilentMobius
Guest gingercat Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 You did remember to actually check the performance pack option before baking didn't you? Run a benchmark e.g. Quadrant Standard pre and post PP, and you'll see a massive difference. Device runs a lot smoother in general.
Guest rvdgeer Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 Hi got my vega just before Xmas used off ebay , had the CyanogenMod ROM installed everything worked fine with no problems, at that time I didn't know there were more custom roms,so after a bit of googling I came across the Modaco rom R6 and decided to try it (liked the small top bar)after the install all worked fine(no flash had to install that separately)battery indicator a bit erratic but about the same performance as the CyanogenMod ROM.After reading through the forums and reading members satisfaction with the boost in performance after installing a prebake with PP, I decided I must try the online kitchen,paid me £9.99 got me cake and installed it, hey presto ( no difference) can anybody explain what is in the pp that might boost performance or am I missing a trick. Let the kicking start. Welcome to the MoDaCo forum... (From another user!) I think you should read (some of) the topics on this... No need to start a new topic on the exact same subject if there's a lot of info on this available... There's even one stickied... ;)
Guest ELTel2 Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 (edited) The performance pack includes updated EGL libs from the latest Nvidia developers image. When Paul first make the PP this was a huge deal, since then others have pulled the updated libs into their own build. I don't know if the unofficial CM6 build used the updated EGL libs, if it does, that's why you wouldn't see any improvement. Edited January 21, 2011 by ELTel2
Guest ELTel2 Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 (edited) Welcome to the MoDaCo forum... (From another user!) I think you should read (some of) the topics on this... No need to start a new topic on the exact same subject if there's a lot of info on this available... There's even one stickied... ;) Edited January 21, 2011 by ELTel2
Guest Dayzee Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 Sorry jobsworth where? Didn't spot a jobsworth.... Did spot a new poster with a poor attitude though.
Guest ELTel2 Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 (edited) Didn't spot a jobsworth.... Did spot a new poster with a poor attitude though. Edited January 21, 2011 by ELTel2
Guest Tony Williams Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 (edited) Sorry jobsworth where? Its in the "pinned" section at the top with 5 pages of posts, hard to miss really. As others have said you need to tick the Performance Pack option when baking your own rom otherwise it will be the same as the pre bakes which don't include the performance pack. Installed it on my vega and noticed a big difference, the whole device seems much smoother in everyday use. Edited January 19, 2011 by Tony Williams
Guest Unipete Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 Ouch! This thread is degenerating into a name calling session. Stop it! OP, did you check the performance pack option on your bake? It made a massive difference to my vega when I upgraded.
Guest Unipete Posted January 19, 2011 Report Posted January 19, 2011 OP, I'm also interested in what lack of performance you have experienced after the install of the rom. There are some fixes on the forums for touch screen issues etc if that is a problem that was not addressed in Paul's R6. Just trying to help!
Guest ELTel2 Posted January 20, 2011 Report Posted January 20, 2011 (edited) Its in the "pinned" section at the top with 5 pages of posts, hard to miss really. As others have said you need to tick the Performance Pack option when baking your own rom otherwise it will be the same as the pre bakes which don't include the performance pack. Installed it on my vega and noticed a big difference, the whole device seems much smoother in everyday use. Edited January 21, 2011 by ELTel2
Guest bennji_boy Posted January 20, 2011 Report Posted January 20, 2011 Hi everybody seems to be missing the point I was expressing (R6 free vs R6+pp) it could be I was spoilt from the start with the vega already been installed with a custom rom.I know the R6 is a great improvement over the stock advent rom I'm not knocking that. And yes the dogs will be dispatched if I read any more (did you tick the pp box) The custom ROM you already had on it probably had the same bits in as the PP.
Guest Tony Williams Posted January 20, 2011 Report Posted January 20, 2011 Hi everybody seems to be missing the point I was expressing (R6 free vs R6+pp) Not missing the point at all. I was trying to tell you that, unlike you it seems, I saw a noticable improvement in performance between the mod pack with performance pack and the mod pack without. Hence I suggested you might want to check the option was selected. And yes the dogs will be dispatched if I read any more (did you tick the pp box) Just trying to help! comments like this make me wish I hadn`t bothered....... ;)
Guest simonta Posted January 20, 2011 Report Posted January 20, 2011 (edited) ElTel2. Welcome. I don't usually get involved but I would like to offer some advice which of course, you are at liberty to ignore. Many people on here give up very significant amounts of their time to help the community and to pass on experience, knowledge, discoveries and experiments for no reward and for no motivation other than to make this a friendly and welcoming place that helps people to maximise what they have. I estimate that as well as holding down two jobs for about 65 hours a week, I spend about 10 hours responding to posts here (mainly to offer advice and suggestions) and trying new things to help the community. Personally speaking the perception is that you have come in like a bull in a china shop and appear to have something of a bad attitude. Of course, it's only perception and I have nothing to suggest that you are other than a thoroughly decent chap. You have been offered a perfectly plausible reason by SilentMobius as to why you might not have noticed an improvement, which is contrary to the overwhelming majority of experiences. Indeed, you may be unique. Anyway, my advice to you is to try the suggestion offered and contribute back with a response of your findings; to think carefully about your responses and to respect peoples' attempts at self regulation of the forum which it so desperately needs. As rvdgeer pointed out, all of the information you require is already on this forum and a new post was not appropriate. As I said, feel free to ignore me or, as your mood takes you, to post some pointless, pithy comment. Good luck on here. I hope that, like me, you find this little corner of the internet a friendly, welcoming and ultimately useful place to hang out. Cheers Edited January 20, 2011 by simonta
Guest jellywobbles Posted January 20, 2011 Report Posted January 20, 2011 ElTel2. Welcome. I don't usually get involved but I would like to offer some advice which of course, you are at liberty to ignore. Many people on here give up very significant amounts of their time to help the community and to pass on experience, knowledge, discoveries and experiments for no reward and for no motivation other than to make this a friendly and welcoming place that helps people to maximise what they have. I estimate that as well as holding down two jobs for about 65 hours a week, I spend about 10 hours responding to posts here (mainly to offer advice and suggestions) and trying new things to help the community. Personally speaking the perception is that you have come in like a bull in a china shop and appear to have something of a bad attitude. Of course, it's only perception and I have nothing to suggest that you are other than a thoroughly decent chap. You have been offered a perfectly plausible reason by SilentMobius as to why you might not have noticed an improvement, which is contrary to the overwhelming majority of experiences. Indeed, you may be unique. Anyway, my advice to you is to try the suggestion offered and contribute back with a response of your findings; to think carefully about your responses and to respect peoples' attempts at self regulation of the forum which it so desperately needs. As rvdgeer pointed out, all of the information you require is already on this forum and a new post was not appropriate. As I said, feel free to ignore me or, as your mood takes you, to post some pointless, pithy comment. Good luck on here. I hope that, like me, you find this little corner of the internet a friendly, welcoming and ultimately useful place to hang out. Cheers +1 .. very well put - stands back and applauds! Do you work in HR? ;)
Guest zzleezz Posted January 20, 2011 Report Posted January 20, 2011 +1 .. very well put - stands back and applauds! Do you work in HR? ;) PAH! I had an equally good if not superior post ready to go but simonta beat me to it. Mine had alien abduction and mass hysteria as explanations of lack of pp performance too. I feel cheated :-P Anyway, +1 also. Not to bring religion into an already creamy atmosphere but "do unto others" always struck me as common sense.
Guest newbe5 Posted January 20, 2011 Report Posted January 20, 2011 Hi got my vega just before Xmas used off ebay , had the CyanogenMod ROM installed everything worked fine with no problems, at that time I didn't know there were more custom roms,so after a bit of googling I came across the Modaco rom R6 and decided to try it (liked the small top bar)after the install all worked fine(no flash had to install that separately)battery indicator a bit erratic but about the same performance as the CyanogenMod ROM.After reading through the forums and reading members satisfaction with the boost in performance after installing a prebake with PP, I decided I must try the online kitchen,paid me £9.99 got me cake and installed it, hey presto ( no difference) can anybody explain what is in the pp that might boost performance or am I missing a trick. Let the kicking start. Hey there, I'm not sure everyone here fully understands what you were trying to say, so all bitchyness aside... How do you mean no difference? Is that from your perception of the overall feel of the ROM, or from actual speed tests on the Vega?
Guest Unipete Posted January 20, 2011 Report Posted January 20, 2011 newbie5 @#19 I asked a similar question a few days ago. Difficult to know how undifferent (is there such a phrase)? their vega is after the R6 install, as the OP has gone dark!!
Guest gdwhitehouse Posted January 20, 2011 Report Posted January 20, 2011 OP - can I just clarify... 1 - you bought it and used it with a cyanogen ROM 2 - you then wiped it and put back on the STD Vega 1.06.5 and checked it out 3 - you then installed the r6 prebake and checked it out 4 - you then paid up and baked the r6 with PP and checked it out You are saying you are seeing no difference between the last two - correct? In which case I would suggest you start at step 2 again and perform Quadrant tests at each stage to verify you get the step up you should. G PS +1 for simonta- well said
Guest SilentMobius Posted January 20, 2011 Report Posted January 20, 2011 can anybody explain what is in the pp that might boost performance or am I missing a trick. Let the kicking start. Short version: Run GlBench and/or Quadrant before and after.
Guest gdwhitehouse Posted January 20, 2011 Report Posted January 20, 2011 Short version: Run GlBench and/or Quadrant before and after. Ha ha ha - wish I'd just typed that ;)
Guest mrguest Posted January 20, 2011 Report Posted January 20, 2011 Ha ha ha - wish I'd just typed that ;) I am curious as to how much faster the performance pack is. I installed the custom rom when i got my vega and havent paid for the pack as the vega doesnt seem slow to me. I wanted to see how i got on with every intention of adding it later. However it doesnt seem worth it. So can someone explain what difference it really makes then? I downloaded quadrant and it scores 2077. Tells me that compares well. So rather than us just arguing please can someone post what the result would be after adding the pp. many thanks
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