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Guest jennie81
Posted

However only 2.2 supported and also you need flash 10.1 which makes it very unlikely to ever work on our blades!

Although, why did an official iplayer app work fine with my old samsung monte? That hardly had anywhere near the spec of the blade.

J

Guest digisol
Posted

...and (I believe) only viewable over wifi. Which makes it a huge step backwards from the other iplayer apps.

There are other threads on the other apps, but I've got beebPlayer and myPlayer working fine. Even so, I'll check out this new BBC app to see what the quality is like, as the other apps I've listed are far from amazing in terms of quality.

Guest That-Guy
Posted

If this is correct it will be a pretty poo official app :P

Guest Matty-p
Posted
If this is correct it will be a pretty poo official app :P

for-sure

official software updates usually are e.g still the world worst version of 2.1 wile were on 2.3 right now

Guest robot1000
Posted (edited)

Why on earth should it require flash??

Why can't it work the same way it does on the iphone (which doesn't have flash)??

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Guest IronDoc
Posted
Why on earth should it require flash??

Why can't it work the same way it does on the iphone (which doesn't have flash)??

Because then android users don't get to be so incredibly smug about their ability to use something that isn't particularly suited to mobiles.

Guest madflier
Posted
Why on earth should it require flash??

Why can't it work the same way it does on the iphone (which doesn't have flash)??

Well, the actual answer is that the iPhone is locked down, so the BBC can send unencrypted video to it without the rightholders complaining. On android, because of the open nature of the platform, they have to use a closed source, drm capable video player = flash.

Posted

there is always the awesome beebplayer, its not in the market you need to google it (surprisingly it still works for most content!)

Guest IronDoc
Posted
Well, the actual answer is that the iPhone is locked down, so the BBC can send unencrypted video to it without the rightholders complaining. On android, because of the open nature of the platform, they have to use a closed source, drm capable video player = flash.

BBC already lets beebplayer and myplayer stream it, why would they enforce drm for their own app?

Guest dbeckett
Posted
BBC already lets beebplayer and myplayer stream it, why would they enforce drm for their own app?

Technically the BBC don't let myplayer stream it, they got their lawyers onto the developer and got him to remove all iplayer content... however the older versions of the app before this point still work

Haven't looked into beebplayer so can't tell you if they've tried to stop them as well

Guest HypnoPig
Posted

I just use MyPlayer v1.0 - it still works well enough and I have yet to have anything not load on it.

I find it odd that the BBC asked/made these other apps (MyPlayer, BeebPlayer) get taken of the market. I believe I am correct in saying that you're legally allowed to watch iPlayer without a TV license, you only aren't allowed to watch live. So surely MyPlayer, which allowed me to access BBC iPlayer channels (after they had been broadcast) isn't illegal in any way - it's effectively just a reskinned mobile version of the regular iPlayer website.

Come to think of it the app probably isn't illegal by any means, just the developer got scared by hollow threats and law suits that would be won out of better lawyers, regardless of how firm his case was. Damn BBC.

Shame their app is flash only - it sounds pretty inefficient when compared to the iPod/iPhone version.

Guest IronDoc
Posted (edited)

Nah it breaks the terms of service or something. If you provide something, you can near enough put whatever restrictions you like on it.

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Guest Nick Rhodes
Posted (edited)
Nah it breaks the terms of service or something. If you provide something, you can near enough put whatever restrictions you like on it.

It is a very grey legal area. You are legally allowed to watch a recording of any broadcast at a later date that you had a valid licence to view.

Acts that are allowed

Fair dealing is a term used to describe acts which are permitted to a certain degree without infringing the work, these acts are:...

....Recording of broadcasts for the purposes of listening to or viewing at a more convenient time, this is known as time shifting.

http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/copyrigh...k_copyright_law

There is no restriction on the format of where, how and who. DVD recorder, P2P and iPlayer are all perfectly legitimate.

BUt because iPlayer is not covered by the licence fee and is a TV licence is not required (apart from watching Live-cast stuff), it is not clear if the above time shifting applies as they are not licences broadcasts and the BBC can put access restrictions on as they see fit.

http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/help...progs/tvlicence

You do not need a television licence to catch-up on television programmes in BBC iPlayer, only when you watch or record at the same time

Cheers, Nick

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Guest Azurren
Posted

Actually on the subject of TV licensing they don't actually have the power to do anything if you don't have a TV licence (Unless you sign a document saying that you don't have one and want to pay a fine, or invite them in and give them a tour of your wonderful HD Freeview-ready TV / digital box all setup and working)

Was discussed on our local BBC radio station :huh:

It was meant to inform / scare people into paying their licence but kinda went the other way!

But do you really want to put-up with constant harassment? And believe me when I say constant harassment!

No it wasn't me, honest, but whenever they had a van in the area (At least once a month) they would be banging on the neighbours door.. And then sometimes mine asking if "I had heard their TV" :P

Really I wouldn't recommend not paying.. But then again stations like ITV are funded via ads, why should you have to pay for the privilege of watching BBCs ads?

A little off-topic I know, But even if you don't have a TV they will still harass you unless you inform them every year :D

Guest Tony-steam
Posted

I tried today to download the BBC iplayer app from the Android Market,

It first of all asked me to "Choose device on which to install".

After selecting the only one option "T mobile ZTE ZTE Blade"

It stopped the whole exercise with

"This item is not compatible with your device"

I have flb-froyo-blade-r8a.zip successfully installed

Has anyone else tried?

Posted

Try reading the posts on the forum as well as the ones in this thread - it's in the very first post!

This will NOT work on the blade - Flash will NOT work on the blade

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