Guest GhostOfTheNet Posted February 17, 2011 Report Posted February 17, 2011 (edited) Hi all, A few days ago i opened my POV Mobii (another version of the vega) because i wanted to see why the non 3G version has no 3G. At this point, my journey started. Facts: * Advent Vega = POV Mobii Tegra = Smartbook Smartsurfer 360 * The Advent Vega lacks of the antennas and the simcardslot/PCIe slot * A unknown subset of the POV Mobii Tegra without 3G are also missing this parts, the other subset not. * The Smartbook Smartsurfer 360 has all this parts + HUWAI EM770W miniPCI card 3g modem * Sadly the Simcardreader/mPCIe module has no name, but it seems to be a standard part (see picture below, backside is hidden by a antistatic black plastic), someone needs to search through the electronic sites to hopefully find that. See the link below. * the antennas are a normal 3g main and 3g aux, definitive standard parts which maybe not fit perfectly into the case and need improvisation(there's enough space), but will work * The Ericsson f3507g is not working because... nope the mbm driver are there... but the ril-daemon is missing Working 3G devices * HUAWEI EM770W 3G is working(as i know useable for EU) (thx to malamut81) http://cgi.ebay.com/New-UNLOCKED-HUAWEI-EM...=item3a623613b3 * Ericsson F3307G 3G is working(as i know useable for US) (thx to ParanoidSPV) http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...T#ht_3134wt_905 Links: This Thread at XDA: http://forum.xda-developers.com/editpost.p...&p=11420243 Simcardreader is something like this, but with another interface to the device itself(maybe it's still usb... do not know, we need an electronican): http://cgi.ebay.com/MINI-PCI-E-WWAN-USB-AD...=item230e171159 Interesting Threads concerning this topic: http://android.modaco.com/content/advent-v...trofit-in-vega/ http://android.modaco.com/content/advent-v...vega-internals/ TODO's: * Fixing whatever does not work * Finding out if the antenna parts and the simcardslot/mpcie slot are buyable Expectations: * Easy and cheap upgrade of Advent Vega and POV Mobii Tegra for a full 3g functionality Attchments: Kind Regards Ralph Edited February 25, 2011 by GhostOfTheNet
Guest GhostOfTheNet Posted February 17, 2011 Report Posted February 17, 2011 In the XDA forum someone gave me a link to http://android.modaco.com/index.php?s=&...t&p=1595095 My answer was: With the mpcie device in, the mobile network settings appears in the wireless settings, so there's no trick needed to come there. my problem is, when it initialized the modem and effective searches for networks, it changes shortly the signal strength like it would switch from emergency call all networks mode to dialed into network mode and fall back out of the network immediate. the same simcard is working in my htc desire. so my suppose is, that there is a problem reading the data from the simcard or routing it to the modem. Kind Regards
Guest trevor432990 Posted February 17, 2011 Report Posted February 17, 2011 Is it essential that you have the 3G card inside the machine? Only some of our members have got 3G USB dongles working see here. Whilst I see there are benefits to having it fitted internally it would seem to be a right faff when an external alternative seems a lot simpler :D
Guest tmirage Posted February 17, 2011 Report Posted February 17, 2011 (edited) Curious as i was i just opened up my POV mobii Tegra but i dont got the card reader you show on the picture. I bought mine about 3 weeks ago. So i guess you got a alternative version thats newer or maybe older. Can you specify when you bought yours? Edited February 17, 2011 by tmirage
Guest rvdgeer Posted February 17, 2011 Report Posted February 17, 2011 Curious as i was i just opened up my POV vega but i dont got the card reader you show on the picture. I bought mine about 3 weeks ago. So i guess you got a alternative version thats newer or maybe older. Can you specify when you bought yours? PoV Vega? Did you mean PoV Mobii or Advent Vega? Big difference on this specific hardware...
Guest QLF Posted February 17, 2011 Report Posted February 17, 2011 (edited) Shame this won't work in the Vega with the lack of Sim card slot. Would be nice to have, (not bothered by the setup "faff"), but if not possible i'm more than happy to keep it tethered to my phone. Zero cost and hassle wins the day!! I guess this is a "nice to have" rather than a "must". Edited February 17, 2011 by QLF
Guest GhostOfTheNet Posted February 17, 2011 Report Posted February 17, 2011 (edited) pov mobii tegra i bought mine before two weeks from ditech in austria. concerning the external 3g dongle, i prefer not to have something hanging there, before i stay by wifi tethering even if that kills the battery of my mobile. but i will get this thing working, even if i need to build my own rom. edit: Shame this won't work in the Vega with the lack of Sim card slot. I'll look at home if i can find out what part that is and if it's possible to order it somewhere. then it's also possible with the vega. regards Edited February 17, 2011 by GhostOfTheNet
Guest QLF Posted February 17, 2011 Report Posted February 17, 2011 pov mobii tegra i bought mine before two weeks from ditech in austria. Is that the same as this one>> http://www.boffer.co.uk/
Guest remlap Posted February 17, 2011 Report Posted February 17, 2011 Certainty not that is resistive touch screen mate.
Guest tmirage Posted February 17, 2011 Report Posted February 17, 2011 (edited) PoV Vega? Did you mean PoV Mobii or Advent Vega? Big difference on this specific hardware... sorry for the confusion hehe, i meant my POV mobii Tegra doesnt have this expansion board inside. I bought mine in Netherland from www.informatique.nl Edited February 17, 2011 by tmirage
Guest GhostOfTheNet Posted February 17, 2011 Report Posted February 17, 2011 Certainty not that is resistive touch screen mate. Is not, kapacitive 4 finger multitouch
Guest GhostOfTheNet Posted February 17, 2011 Report Posted February 17, 2011 sorry for the confusion hehe, i meant my POV mobii Tegra doenst have this slot. some have it, look above in the facts
Guest tmirage Posted February 17, 2011 Report Posted February 17, 2011 some have it, look above in the facts I understand :D. Just disappointed mine doesnt have one yet so i have to go through a bit more trouble to maybe get one working on the inside. Im eagerly awaiting your response for the specs of the board that we are missing i hope it can be ordered from somewhere.
Guest GhostOfTheNet Posted February 17, 2011 Report Posted February 17, 2011 I understand :D. Just disappointed mine doesnt have one yet so i have to go through a bit more trouble to maybe get one working on the inside. Im eagerly awaiting your response for the specs of the board that we are missing i hope it can be ordered from somewhere. today at about 7 pm gmt +1 you will get your specs
Guest GhostOfTheNet Posted February 17, 2011 Report Posted February 17, 2011 (edited) update concerning the simcardreader, lok at the top i asked a workmate of mine, wich is a really good electronican. maybe he can tell us what kind of interface the left one is. maybe it's possible to find something simmilar and with a bit soldering... concerning my 3g modem... D/MobileDataStateTracker( 1081): default Received state= DISCONNECTED, old= CONNECTING, reason= simLoaded, apnTypeList= default,supl not much information, how do i get logcat to give me deeper messages? Edited February 17, 2011 by GhostOfTheNet
Guest nosferatu_vos Posted February 18, 2011 Report Posted February 18, 2011 I have send Point of View a email and asked them why is it that some POV mobii do have a simcard slot and some don't. And if there is a possibility to get that simcard slot and antenna. Waiting on a answer. Will get back on that
Guest ParanoidSPV Posted February 18, 2011 Report Posted February 18, 2011 I just recived my Ericsson F3307G card and did test it out in the Point of view Mobii... Had to manual set the APN but modem works great, can get 3G connection, havent testet the GPS in it yet tho. This was the one i did get. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...T#ht_3134wt_905
Guest Frankly3D Posted March 14, 2011 Report Posted March 14, 2011 Hi , I have similar to the first two pictures inside my Mobii Tegra (POV). They were already installed when the cover come off. The 3G sim fits in nicely. Are the pics of a 3g mini card? If so how can I get what appears to be an inbuilt one, started. As you can tell haven't a clue about electronics. :D
Guest sugar0 Posted March 16, 2011 Report Posted March 16, 2011 I just recived my Ericsson F3307G card and did test it out in the Point of view Mobii... Had to manual set the APN but modem works great, can get 3G connection, havent testet the GPS in it yet tho. This was the one i did get. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...T#ht_3134wt_905 How was the testing ? the GPS is working ?
Guest kampo Posted March 16, 2011 Report Posted March 16, 2011 Hello people did someone disassemble the Advent vega and found this slot for 3g card? If i understood well the slot is there but there is no place for sim? The sim slot is not on the card? if yes why not insert the sim and leave it inside the table without problem Cheers
Guest boh Posted March 17, 2011 Report Posted March 17, 2011 (edited) I've got a pov mobii tegra and there's already an internal simcardslot/PCIe slot so i can insert in it an Ericsson F3307G 3G modem that i wait for. Sorry but i don't know where you can wangle one. Edited March 24, 2011 by boh
Guest Rick Kelly Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 I just opened the case of my POV Mobii Tegra. It has the mentioned SIM-card holder and all needed antennae. Now to find a Huawei EM770W here in The Netherlands...
Guest boh Posted March 18, 2011 Report Posted March 18, 2011 (edited) I just opened the case of my POV Mobii Tegra. It has the mentioned SIM-card holder and all needed antennae. Now to find a Huawei EM770W here in The Netherlands... You can find it on Ebay. The antenna cable is already inside the pov, you don't need to add new one. Edited March 19, 2011 by boh
Guest Rick Kelly Posted March 21, 2011 Report Posted March 21, 2011 You can find it on Ebay. The antenna cable is already inside the pov, you don't need to add new one. I know, but I just found it on 'marktplaats', sort of Dutch Ebay. :D
Guest rvdgeer Posted March 21, 2011 Report Posted March 21, 2011 I just opened the case of my POV Mobii Tegra. It has the mentioned SIM-card holder and all needed antennae. Now to find a Huawei EM770W here in The Netherlands... Lucky you! Last week I opened my PoV Mobii 10 too, but no sim reader inside :( That's the downside of being ahead of the pack I guess :D
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