Guest clear sky Posted February 18, 2011 Report Posted February 18, 2011 I got my Vega yesterday, even on stock condition is quite fast and snappy but what about that LCD screen?? Rotating it by a mere few degrees in any direction is enough to change the brightness as perceived by the user-me in this case. The viewing angles are so bad that even when I have it right in front of my eyes parts of the screen are fainter, I mean what's the viewing angle on this, five degrees or something?!! Reading ebooks on a dark background is not possible because half of the screen is shiny no matter how I hold it, and that's caused by the backlight as well as the poor viewing angle. I know this is an LCD and not an amoled but still the black looks gray, shiny gray. So I am wondering whether I have a Vega with a deffective screen or whether all Vegas are like this. I haven't seen anyone complaining about the screen so I think it's just my Vega that came with a bad quality screen, it's still very responsive though.
Guest Sanddancer75 Posted February 18, 2011 Report Posted February 18, 2011 That sounds pretty much like mine, sorry. Some people find the viewing angles better if you hold the thing upside down. It's by far the biggest fault in the machine. Unfortunately it's the first thing you'll notice about it.
Guest IndyUK Posted February 18, 2011 Report Posted February 18, 2011 I got my Vega yesterday, even on stock condition is quite fast and snappy but what about that LCD screen?? Rotating it by a mere few degrees in any direction is enough to change the brightness as perceived by the user-me in this case. The viewing angles are so bad that even when I have it right in front of my eyes parts of the screen are fainter, I mean what's the viewing angle on this, five degrees or something?!! Reading ebooks on a dark background is not possible because half of the screen is shiny no matter how I hold it, and that's caused by the backlight as well as the poor viewing angle. I know this is an LCD and not an amoled but still the black looks gray, shiny gray. So I am wondering whether I have a Vega with a deffective screen or whether all Vegas are like this. I haven't seen anyone complaining about the screen so I think it's just my Vega that came with a bad quality screen, it's still very responsive though. Alas, you are correct. The viewing angle on this device is poor. This is a real shame because the machine itself is very good. I suppose this is how they keep the price down. Experiment with the brightness levels and see what works for you. I've noticed that an angle of around ~35 degrees seems to be optimal when the brightness is around 30%. Of course if you start watching movies/pics then you will have to adjust it accordingly.
Guest obb Posted February 18, 2011 Report Posted February 18, 2011 It comes down to what you are used to and expectations really .. I have had laptops with similar quality screens for a long time, as they are a lot cheaper. You get used to it tbh and I wans't expecting it to be any different really ... You get used to holding the vega at the right angle anyway and as long as your in roughly the right area its perfectly usable for what I use it for.
Guest clear sky Posted February 18, 2011 Report Posted February 18, 2011 Quite a pity because this could be a top tablet. This screen is a dealbreaker for me. Thanks anyway
Guest waj1234 Posted February 18, 2011 Report Posted February 18, 2011 Quite a pity because this could be a top tablet. This screen is a dealbreaker for me. Thanks anyway Have to agree that its not that good. The device is good though. Shame it ain't as good as my San Fran's screen. You have to get it just the right angle or its naff. It is a good price though. I nearly got an Archos 70 but not sure if screen is better.
Guest Lennyuk Posted February 18, 2011 Report Posted February 18, 2011 The viewing angles are an issue but there are ways to make it less of an issue. e.g. use a light theme in apps where possible and also have a widget for changing brightness on your homescreen, that way you can easily adjust the brightness to suit what your doing. The higher the brightness the better the angles will be (generally) but remember the higher the brightness the shorter your battery will last. The viewing angle problem hasn't bothered me for ages now, and I regularly use the tablet for Kindle and browsing.
Guest Sanddancer75 Posted February 18, 2011 Report Posted February 18, 2011 You do get used to it. I only think of it if I'm trying to show someone else something on the screen. The official case sits it at the right angle for me normally too.
Guest clear sky Posted February 18, 2011 Report Posted February 18, 2011 Vega is indeed a great machine but I can't live with it's screen. Returned it and got a full refund. I also checked the iPad while I was at currys. You cannot compare the two screens and as the friend said above that makes the difference in the price. Thanks everybody
Guest receptor Posted February 18, 2011 Report Posted February 18, 2011 Isn't the Vega equipped with Twisted Nematic type of LCD? In this type of display with no voltage applied (no power consumed) the LCD cells are untwisted, passing light through, while stronger voltage (more power) twists the crystals, blocking light. It means that with white background your device consumes the least power! Changing the brightness actually changes the LCD backlight strength, so i wonder if one device would consume less power with 100% brightness and white background than another device with, say, 75% brightness and black background. And yes, the display on my Vega sucks in portrait. Otherwise it's a great device :D Friend of mine has Archos 101 and the screen is practically the same.
Guest jamesie Posted February 18, 2011 Report Posted February 18, 2011 (edited) Isn't the Vega equipped with Twisted Nematic type of LCD? In this type of display with no voltage applied (no power consumed) the LCD cells are untwisted, passing light through, while stronger voltage (more power) twists the crystals, blocking light. It means that with white background your device consumes the least power! Changing the brightness actually changes the LCD backlight strength, so i wonder if one device would consume less power with 100% brightness and white background than another device with, say, 75% brightness and black background. And yes, the display on my Vega sucks in portrait. Otherwise it's a great device :D Friend of mine has Archos 101 and the screen is practically the same. The screen is terrible for viewing angles, particularly compared to my nexus s or Asus T91. It's slightly better upside down in landscape mode, I like the speed, weight and size But I'll prob only keep mine until the 10" Samsung or Asus eeepad is released. Has anyone tried it with a screen protector, does it improve viewing angles? Edited February 19, 2011 by jamesie
Guest warriorscot Posted February 18, 2011 Report Posted February 18, 2011 Viewing angles are ok for a tablet usually there is one portrait orientation that has better viewing angles so you can use it. But like a lot of handheld devices viewing angles is where they save the most money. It's a pretty common trick as in a handheld device you orient the device without thinking about it after a while so it looks best.
Guest spachal Posted February 18, 2011 Report Posted February 18, 2011 Conclusion: try to read as much reviews as possible and watch some (youtube) video, before you'll spent your $xxx :] .. Before I bought this MID, I know about this 'angle problem', but, for me, it's not big deal, horizontal viewing angles are OK, for reading ebooks it's perfect.
Guest sknne Posted February 20, 2011 Report Posted February 20, 2011 Conclusion: try to read as much reviews as possible and watch some (youtube) video, before you'll spent your $xxx :] .. Before I bought this MID, I know about this 'angle problem', but, for me, it's not big deal, horizontal viewing angles are OK, for reading ebooks it's perfect. I agree, i also checked out reviews b4 buying, the angles are a little shoddy yes, but the price and the speed of it make up for it in my book. I luv my vega, awesome piece of kit, but deffo only because of the custom roms, without them the thing would be pointless. The ipads screen is awesome, but the software is, well how can i say it,yaaawn, boring, unless u can hack the thing and install android, then i would never buy an ipad...
Guest chockimon Posted February 20, 2011 Report Posted February 20, 2011 I agree, the screen is the only thing I really hate about the Vega. I can't believe how bad the sceen is. I know it's cheap but for the price I was still expecting better. I was going to buy a Nook Colour, but they're not available in the UK yet, so I bought the Advent Vega instead. Nice tablet, just shame about the screen. I guess I'll just have to live with it, until something better comes along. The Vega is certainly good value and I personally don't think any of the other more expensive tablets are worth the money, especially when you can get a more powerful and versatile netbook or laptop for the same price. I'm looking forward to an Intel Sandy Bridge Tablet with a IPS or Oled screen, similar in design to the Dell Inspiron tablet. That would be the perfect Tablet, no doubt pricey as well. :D
Guest jamesie Posted February 21, 2011 Report Posted February 21, 2011 (edited) I agree, the screen is the only thing I really hate about the Vega. I can't believe how bad the sceen is. I know it's cheap but for the price I was still expecting better. I was going to buy a Nook Colour, but they're not available in the UK yet, so I bought the Advent Vega instead. Nice tablet, just shame about the screen. I guess I'll just have to live with it, until something better comes along. The Vega is certainly good value and I personally don't think any of the other more expensive tablets are worth the money, especially when you can get a more powerful and versatile netbook or laptop for the same price. I'm looking forward to an Intel Sandy Bridge Tablet with a IPS or Oled screen, similar in design to the Dell Inspiron tablet. That would be the perfect Tablet, no doubt pricey as well. :D I had dell inspiring duo tablet for a week before getting my vega, I returned it because of the poor quality screen, seems advent is not the only OEM using poor quality LCD, i'm keeping the Vega as it was £200 less than the dell so my expectations were lower. Samsung will hopefully bring out an amoled tablet later this year, until then the Vega screen is just about good enough for the price ! Edited February 21, 2011 by jamesie
Guest pozmu Posted February 22, 2011 Report Posted February 22, 2011 Well I read many reviews and I knew the viewing angles are bad, that it is unusable in portrait mode... but c'mon, my notebook's screen is crappy, but THAT crappy :huh: ? Had to return it as I wanted to use it as e-reader... Can you recommend any alternative? Similar size, can be more expensive but with better, no, wait, actually with decent screen? From what I've seen Adam has similar issue... and lot of software bugs as well. And you can buy Nook Color in UK thru some kind of reseller, just search for it on google shopping.
Guest warriorscot Posted February 22, 2011 Report Posted February 22, 2011 Nook as an ereader is pretty crap, but all LCDs are going to be when stacked up next to an e-ink device. I have a sony reader and I still use it just as much as my vega the only task that got moved from reader to vega was reading pdf's of scientific literature as it handles pdfs better thanks to its extra power. A nook really is just a good LCD screen with a cheap tablet underneath basically the opposite of a vega. If you want something to use as a reader buy a reader they are amazing and the latest generation of e-ink display is pretty much indistinguishable from paper. They aren't even that expensive anymore I paid only a little less than what I did for my vega two years ago for my PRS-700 and not you can get a cheap one in the £70-130 range. When reading smaller documents LCD is fine or if you are an occasional reader but if like me you are an avid reader(minimum 200 books read in a year) then LCD is not the way to go. And the Adam comes in two versions one with a more expensive screen than the other although there is delays on getting them to market because of damaged screens. The version with the better screen would work better as an e-reader than most other tablets as it's reflective technology behind it similar to e-ink. The next tablets in the Tegra format are going to be the honeycomb tablets the most likely one to hit the market first is going to be the XOOM.
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