Next G support?

[Guest Road Runner]

I picked up a liquid e about a week ago. In Australia we have a network called Next G, it's a modified 3G UMTS network designed to use 850mhz band instead of 2100 mhz, which gives it very good signal in remote areas. The Ebay item page (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ACER-Liquid-E-Unlocked-NEXT-G-3-5-Android-GPS-WiFi-8GB-/200582861784?pt=AU_Mobile_Phones&hash=item2eb3ab93d8) states the phone supports nextG, but my experience is that the 3g data connection is very unreliable (in melbourne, with a telstra nextG simcard of course) that I really doubt it does support this protocol. can anyone prove this, one way or another?

This is making me especially angry because I already bought a spare battery and I will have to send the phone back if it doesn't support it. :D

Thanks heaps,

Shawn.

[Guest mmkim]

Liquid & Liquid E support NextG in Hong Kong.

so, look this is your location receive problem. :D

[Guest HustlinDaily]

The Canadian Liquid E (for Rogers/Fido) has the 850MHz 3G band, all other Liquids do not. Which Liquid E do you have>

[Guest siggey]

I picked up a liquid e about a week ago. In Australia we have a network called Next G, it's a modified 3G UMTS network designed to use 850mhz band instead of 2100 mhz, which gives it very good signal in remote areas. The Ebay item page (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ACER-Liquid-E-Unlocked-NEXT-G-3-5-Android-GPS-WiFi-8GB-/200582861784?pt=AU_Mobile_Phones&hash=item2eb3ab93d8) states the phone supports nextG, but my experience is that the 3g data connection is very unreliable (in melbourne, with a telstra nextG simcard of course) that I really doubt it does support this protocol. can anyone prove this, one way or another?

This is making me especially angry because I already bought a spare battery and I will have to send the phone back if it doesn't support it. :D

Thanks heaps,

Shawn.

I think you can change baseband reflashing acer bin, search in the forum

[Guest jackkykung]

I live in Thailand. My LiquidE support 900 MHz baseband for sure.

I can prove it because 850 MHz in Thailand support by True/Dtac.

I'm using True which I use to connect 3G network with other device but not LiquidE.

I try to put other sim card which support 2100 MHz band and it's work, so not the ROM or baseband support.

It's hardware support.

[Guest jackkykung]

I think you can change baseband reflashing acer bin, search in the forum

Can it be changed?

[Guest mmkim]

The Canadian Liquid E (for Rogers/Fido) has the 850MHz 3G band, all other Liquids do not. Which Liquid E do you have>

Liquid E is my friend phone.......for Rogers. so, i say that can. :D

[Guest Road Runner]

Thanks for the input,

My phone was bought in Australia by an Australian company. (2.1)

I quickly flashed it with LCR-F 2.0 rom

(With recommended Bin:OS_Acer_4.002.14.EMEA.GEN1)

The Canadian Liquid E (for Rogers/Fido) has the 850MHz 3G band, all other Liquids do not. Which Liquid E do you have>

Although this contradicts the following:

Liquid & Liquid E support NextG in Hong Kong.

Its actually great news - at least the device can be next G compatible. I guess I'll go back to the original 2.1 OS and report back later.

One thing though, If the device was bought in Australia (say there is a physical difference between devices that were purchased in different places)

and was flashed with a Canadian bin (I gather that acer Canada were the only ones to release a 2.2 update)

-> I can't see why it won't work properly.

Looking forward for more inputs :D

Shawn

[Guest Road Runner]

I've spent a good hour on the phone with telstra. un-surprisingly, they could not assist me in figuring out if my phone is or isn't on the nextG network. I restored the original OS and the mobile connection icon (when I'm surfing the web) can be E, 3g, or H. (I'm sitting in one place and it's doing whatever it feels like.)

I read that Telstra only have one Hspa network, and that is the nextG network on 850 mhz. so even if I only get that icon for a brief moment my phone should support nextG.. but I can't be sure of that, mainly because I get the H symbol 10% of the time, the 3g symbol 30%, and the unfavorable E symbol 60% of the time spent online.

help please...

[Guest renzs]

It's supposed to support 850mhz, according to Acer Support

Radio

HSDPA/HSUPA at 900/1900/2100 MHz or 850/900/1900/2100 MHz

GSM/EDGE at 850/900/1800/1900 MHz*

have you tried flashing the latest bin? http://hotfile.com/dl/107908952/fa7b0c1/4....IT_bin.zip.html

~renzs

*after re-reading this statement, I understand all liquid e supports 850mhz for GSM/EDGE but not all support 850mhz for HSPDA/HSUPA.

How to tell the difference is THE question that I don't have the answer to. Anyone?

Edited March 28, 2011 by renzs

[Guest Road Runner]

Thanks a lot Renzs!

I've updated to the latest bin, (the one you suggested- the emea,) and it looks like my phone is on Hspa network about 90% of the time. Great!

I read in another site:

* HSDPA Category 8/ HSUPA Category 5 /UMTS (2100/1900/900 Mhz) EU

* HSDPA Category 8/ HSUPA Category 5 /UMTS (2100/1900/850 Mhz) US

Read: Acer Liquid A1 AT&T 3G Support Confirmed [Acer Liquid A1 FCC Approval Gained, 850/1900 MHz Connectivity Detailed]

(*that last comment only become visible when you copy-paste from the following link...)

http://nexus404.com/Blog/2009/12/11/acer-l...ivity-detailed/

So it sounds like there might be a difference between US and EU firmwares, but bins are only grouped as European or Asian :D

It's very strange that the phone did not fancy the H network with the stock firmware (2.1) or with updated froyo+lcr, but it's all better with the new bin.

I hope this will help someone else one day, and thanks again for the help everyone :D