Guest dagrim1 Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 It must have been a hardware failure. But many thanks for the negative comments. I am in no way a novice, I've rooted and flashed quite a few phones and other people phones too with not a sniff of a problem. And i've jailbroken iPhones and iPod touches. The bloke at PC World/Currys Mega Store couldn't do it either and had to ring tech support himself. It was tech support that advised him it was a complete failure. It wasn't meant as a negative comment, sorry if it seemed harsher then I meant it. All I wanted to say is that many people have issues in getting it into the correct mode at times and in the end they got it working afterall. You simply can't brick a vega by flashing stuff on it, there is always a protected bootloader thingie with which you can flash the stock rom. Sometimes it's unclear if the vega is on or off when it's frozen whcih can lead to confusion but in the end it's always possible to flash the stock rom. And with all due respect, the average sales/tech support person has hardly any knowledge. In my experience most of them follow a number of steps from a paper and if that doesn't work they don't know anymore. In the end it's simply not brickable, only breakable (hardware wise)... And no, no issues with win7-64bit here either :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lennyuk Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 It isn't unbrickable, you can flash a bogus bootloader and that'll give you a good brick which you'll need dedicated programming hardware to repair. Funny that, have you seen any bootloaders for the vega floating around? no neither have I :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zebrahead Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Funny that, have you seen any bootloaders for the vega floating around? no neither have I :) No, but you could just flash the bootloader partition with garbage surely? Zeb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lennyuk Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 No, but you could just flash the bootloader partition with garbage surely? Zeb yes, but its hardly easy to do, its not something you can do by accident. If you are flashing that partition, you realise you are and you will know the risks involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Zebrahead Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 the VEGA can be restored in every situation that doesn't involve a physical problem. (Unless you somehow manage to damage this "lower level" part, this is no easy feat and you'd have to know that you were doing it , if you were to do it.... if that makes sense :)) Zeb *points* - exactly what I meant :) yes, but its hardly easy to do, its not something you can do by accident. If you are flashing that partition, you realise you are and you will know the risks involved. But yeah, just saying you dont need a functioning bootloader to flash bootloader and that you COULD (if you wanted?) just flash garbage :) Zeb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pdej Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 i feel sorry for anybody posting on this forum anymore the amount of abuse and negativity that is creeping in over the past few days. yes the vega is unbrickable but attacking a guy for sharing what he thought was valid information sucks big time. chill out guys or i for one will be saying bye bye modaco and lets hope the smart posters dont feel the same way and leave the majority of the people who read this forum ( who are like me ) looking for inspiration and new ideas to try, in the lurch with a machine that out of the box is pants and no way of ever improving it. I think there are more people on here commenting as they are finally getting really bored of reading the 'I've bricked my Vega' threads when there is a wealth of information that generally solves any issues had/to be had. If you want to look for the negative comment - look at the OP's original post - it's defeatest, and not to mention lying to PC World etc (which as someone earlier commented does have an impact on pricing/products being locked down for the rest of us when companies develop new products)... And I think you'll find most people who have commented on this thread are also looking for inspiration, just fed up of the bricking threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest phil8715 Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 I think there are more people on here commenting as they are finally getting really bored of reading the 'I've bricked my Vega' threads when there is a wealth of information that generally solves any issues had/to be had. If you want to look for the negative comment - look at the OP's original post - it's defeatest, and not to mention lying to PC World etc (which as someone earlier commented does have an impact on pricing/products being locked down for the rest of us when companies develop new products)... And I think you'll find most people who have commented on this thread are also looking for inspiration, just fed up of the bricking threads. Got any proof I was lying? I'll see you in court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pdej Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Got any proof I was lying? I'll see you in court. Um... well yeah your post here says that you messed with the Vega - and that probably invalidates any warranty etc....Court my arse... I was actually commenting more on the point of this is yet another useless thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Qwertymon Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 I havent had anyone back in store yet saying they have bricked their vega, Id just remaster it and tell them next time the'll have to pay me to do it >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest phil8715 Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 I havent had anyone back in store yet saying they have bricked their vega, Id just remaster it and tell them next time the'll have to pay me to do it >_> Do you work for PC World or Currys? If you do, I hope you more of an idea than tech support who asked me to remove the BATTERY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest premieral Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Um... well yeah your post here says that you messed with the Vega - and that probably invalidates any warranty etc....Court my arse... I was actually commenting more on the point of this is yet another useless thread! Messing with the rom has no bearing on the warranty dsg actually encourage it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest phil8715 Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Messing with the rom has no bearing on the warranty dsg actually encourage it Yes and it says so on the My Advent Vega website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Qwertymon Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 (edited) Do you work for PC World or Currys? If you do, I hope you more of an idea than tech support who asked me to remove the BATTERY? IM a techguy at pcw (soon to be "know how clinic specialist" with the launch of knowhow...), and if your on the phone they are taking info off a screen, in addition they think you have a laptop and not a tablet because vega is the dsgi laptop line Messing with the rom has no bearing on the warranty dsg actually encourage it How ever trying to return it as faulty when it is not, is just a chargeable service Edited April 15, 2011 by Qwertymon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest phil8715 Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 (edited) IM a techguy at pcw (soon to be "know how clinic specialist" with the launch of knowhow...), and if your on the phone they are taking info off a screen, in addition they think you have a laptop and not a tablet because vega is the dsgi laptop line How ever trying to return it as faulty when it is not, is just a chargeable service The store I went to, not my local store as Iam away on holiday had a Know how dept. The store were very good, it was the bloke on the phone who asked me to remove the battery, surely he knew what an Advent Vega was? If not then what was he doing working for them? People with tech know-how would kill for a job like that. Edited April 15, 2011 by phil8715 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Qwertymon Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 (edited) The store I went to, not my local store as Iam away on holiday had a Know how dept. The store were very good, it was the bloke on the phone who asked me to remove the battery, surely he knew what an Advent Vega was? If not then what was he doing working for them? People with tech know-how would kill for a job like that. Youve gotta understand the call centre has all shapes and sizes so to speak not all of them will know every product thats in the line up, I wouldnt for example know the first thing about trouble shooting a matsui TV we used to sell, short of gettig my hands on one. Id be relying on info on my screen and its a call centre I know full well Id hate to have to put up with bitching every day on the phone, at least in real life I can control the customer going nuts by simply being stood infront of them stopping them from fing and blinding . Edited April 15, 2011 by Qwertymon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest warriorscot Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 I called up tech support when I had a hardware fault and made sure to state pretty clearly right off the bat that it was not a laptop and that it ran android. It is listed as repairable but that is a blanket thing if you make absolutely sure they know what product you are talking about they will authorise replacements rather than repairs. Biggest problem with the vega and tech support is most of the people working there don't know what it is. However going into a PC world shop to get help on installing third party drivers to mod your device is the height of cheek. And I don't know how someone "experienced" in mods has never installed the adb drivers. It's also fairly obvious you didn't even bother to read the instructions for the Vega in the first place. You pretty much decided all within the space of 24 hours that because you couldn't work out how to fix what you had broken didn't ask for help on the forum where you got the ROM from and defrauded DSG out of a new Vega. And all because you couldn't read a set of instructions from advent or even in the miles long R8 thread where every problem is discussed and there are numerous guides and workarounds to get a vega fixed. May this be the last "I've bricked a vega thread" without intentionally setting out to brick a vega it is impossible to do it by accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pdej Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 However going into a PC world shop to get help on installing third party drivers to mod your device is the height of cheek. And I don't know how someone "experienced" in mods has never installed the adb drivers. It's also fairly obvious you didn't even bother to read the instructions for the Vega in the first place. You pretty much decided all within the space of 24 hours that because you couldn't work out how to fix what you had broken didn't ask for help on the forum where you got the ROM from and defrauded DSG out of a new Vega. And all because you couldn't read a set of instructions from advent or even in the miles long R8 thread where every problem is discussed and there are numerous guides and workarounds to get a vega fixed. May this be the last "I've bricked a vega thread" without intentionally setting out to brick a vega it is impossible to do it by accident. Amen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest phil8715 Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 (edited) Youve gotta understand the call centre has all shapes and sizes so to speak not all of them will know every product thats in the line up, I wouldnt for example know the first thing about trouble shooting a matsui TV we used to sell, short of gettig my hands on one. Id be relying on info on my screen and its a call centre I know full well Id hate to have to put up with bitching every day on the phone, at least in real life I can control the customer going nuts by simply being stood infront of them stopping them from fing and blinding . Mate, I've worked in call centres I know what it's like. Most of people who work in a call centre are script monkeys, a lobotomised chimp could have done a better job. I mean if they're reading off a script and know sod all about the products then they shouldn't be working there. My 72 year old mother can tell the difference between a tablet pc, laptop and netbook, and she isn't all that techy. Edited April 16, 2011 by phil8715 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest waltsalt Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 My 72 year old mother can tell the difference between a tablet pc, laptop and netbook, and she isn't all that techy. Maybe you should get her to help you flash your Vega. LOL. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest phil8715 Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 Maybe you should get her to help you flash your Vega. LOL. :) Yeah I should, she would do a better job than me :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest What_The_Fox_Hat Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 At the cost of feeling the wrath of all those who say Nay, Nay and thrice Nay - I seem to have done a pretty good job of (...ducks..) bricking my Vega :) . Having run Pauls r8 ROM for some time I thought it was time to try something different. I did a nandroid and flashed the CM7 nightly 4 rom and used for a short while but as I am taking it away on a trip next week (or was :) ) and want to use my Huawei E220 dongle with it, I moved onto the CorvusVegaRom_0.5 rom. I did all the required wiping etc and it was up and running well for about 24 hours. I then wanted to test the dongle but could not get the Vega to boot into host mode using the instructions on the thread (i.e. - Start in host mode (back button pressed until vega boots) with 3g dongle inserted etc etc). I then proceeded to download the USB Mode Switcher APK and ran that.......this is where my problems started. The Vega went to reboot, I saw the backlight come on with the message 'booting' but then nothing - it just hang with the backlight on. I tried rebooting to no avail several times (the booting message no longer appears) so the next thing I tried is to get into recovery mode (back 2s, power 2s etc) but have failed miserably. Since last night I have tried over and over and over and then again!! and again!! No matter what I try as soon as I push the power button (while holding the back button in for 2s) the backlight comes on. Whether I release it straight away or hold for 2s it makes no difference. Each time this happens I hold the power button down for over 6s to make sure it is completely off and I even let the battery drain completely overnight to make sure it was off - still, no luck. One thing I have noticed is that if i plug in the dongle now the lights come on which suggests it is in host mode - don't know if this is an issue? Does anyone have any suggestions - feel free to mock me if you feel that is productive :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Steven-R-Raith Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 I'm too hung over to mock. Have you tried reflashing the stock vega rom with the NV Flash tool? It's linked to earlier on in the thread, it appears to be the opiate of the masses when it comes to getting these devices back up and running. My skim read of this thread suggests it's a lower level of flashing than using recovery tools/adb etc, hence why it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest What_The_Fox_Hat Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 (edited) I'm too hung over to mock. Have you tried reflashing the stock vega rom with the NV Flash tool? It's linked to earlier on in the thread, it appears to be the opiate of the masses when it comes to getting these devices back up and running. My skim read of this thread suggests it's a lower level of flashing than using recovery tools/adb etc, hence why it works. It IS IMPOSSIBLE to brick the Advent Vega!! Had a quick look at this thread http://android.modaco.com/content-page/324...erhaps/page/20/ post no. 24 and had a go at different combinations of pulling/plugging cables and lo and behold - I got into recovery. I've now flashed a stock 1.09 ROM and shall be leaving things alone (for a little while at least) PS - definitely feel free to mock now :) Edited April 17, 2011 by What_The_Fox_Hat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest waltsalt Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 (edited) At the cost of feeling the wrath of all those who say Nay, Nay and thrice Nay - I seem to have done a pretty good job of (...ducks..) bricking my Vega :) . Having run Pauls r8 ROM for some time I thought it was time to try something different. I did a nandroid and flashed the CM7 nightly 4 rom and used for a short while but as I am taking it away on a trip next week (or was :P ) and want to use my Huawei E220 dongle with it, I moved onto the CorvusVegaRom_0.5 rom. I did all the required wiping etc and it was up and running well for about 24 hours. I then wanted to test the dongle but could not get the Vega to boot into host mode using the instructions on the thread (i.e. - Start in host mode (back button pressed until vega boots) with 3g dongle inserted etc etc). I then proceeded to download the USB Mode Switcher APK and ran that.......this is where my problems started. The Vega went to reboot, I saw the backlight come on with the message 'booting' but then nothing - it just hang with the backlight on. I tried rebooting to no avail several times (the booting message no longer appears) so the next thing I tried is to get into recovery mode (back 2s, power 2s etc) but have failed miserably. Since last night I have tried over and over and over and then again!! and again!! No matter what I try as soon as I push the power button (while holding the back button in for 2s) the backlight comes on. Whether I release it straight away or hold for 2s it makes no difference. Each time this happens I hold the power button down for over 6s to make sure it is completely off and I even let the battery drain completely overnight to make sure it was off - still, no luck. One thing I have noticed is that if i plug in the dongle now the lights come on which suggests it is in host mode - don't know if this is an issue? Does anyone have any suggestions - feel free to mock me if you feel that is productive :) Make sure you have the Vega attached to the computer and also the power plugged in as well when trying to boot into recovery mode. The device is not bricked!! This thread has been hijacked!! EDIT: I see you've seen the error of your ways. Shame on you for panicking like the OP. Well, at least you didn't take it to PC World and demand a refund :) Edited April 17, 2011 by waltsalt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Minimonkey Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 This title needs changing..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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