Guest rjm2k Posted April 19, 2011 Report Posted April 19, 2011 Received this today, needless to say I've also pointed them in the direction of the original home for the Blade, Modaco... Hi x at ZTE passed your contact email on to me – I hope that’s OK. I work for ZTE’s PR agency, AxiCom, and they are asking us to get involved with keeping an eye on conversations on XDA Developers Forum and ensuring they respond to inquiries, etc. No press releases, no selling, I promise. I’m not sure if you are a moderator or not, but I wondered what the policy was with regard to setting up new forums for individual devices. ZTE are keen to set up a ZTE Light (their tablet) forum and one for the ZTE Skate which is their new (hasn’t yet hit the market) 4.3 inch screen Android handset. I assume the Light would be OK as this is already on the market in many countries, if not the UK, but the Skate hasn’t hey hit the market but was announced at Mobile World Congress and show to a group of UK journalists a few weeks back. I’d appreciate it if you can point me in the right direction here, and/or to someone I should talk to if it’s not you. Kind regards
Guest targetbsp Posted April 19, 2011 Report Posted April 19, 2011 These custom roms must noticeably help their Blade sales then. :)
Guest Jekle Posted April 19, 2011 Report Posted April 19, 2011 You should ask him/her to improve the and the ongoing development of the ZTE Blade they should release the a Newer ZTE Froyo Source Code...
Guest rjm2k Posted April 19, 2011 Report Posted April 19, 2011 You should ask him/her to improve the and the ongoing development of the ZTE Blade they should release the a Newer ZTE Froyo Source Code... Already have done, and for bootloader mode back etc. Doubt they will listen, but the guy who contacted me seems to understand what's what so we'll see.
Guest Jekle Posted April 19, 2011 Report Posted April 19, 2011 Already have done, and for bootloader mode back etc. Doubt they will listen, but the guy who contacted me seems to understand what's what so we'll see. I think MoDaCo has actually improved sales of their Biggest Seller ZTE Blade, I know they are a big company but If you speak to the right person you might get somewhere, That's the least that they can do!
Guest hecatae Posted April 19, 2011 Report Posted April 19, 2011 Already have done, and for bootloader mode back etc. Doubt they will listen, but the guy who contacted me seems to understand what's what so we'll see. have you forwarded this to Paul, I think Modaco's founding member should be sent free ZTE Devices for development purposes
Guest Mushroom_Lord Posted April 19, 2011 Report Posted April 19, 2011 This is excellent! Should help speed up development - maybe even some cool new stuff for our blades! He says XDA - But i checked over there - isn't there more blade action on MoDaCo? Shame they didn't say this any earlier :) But of course - I am doubtful as to what they will actually do :)
Guest TCTUK Posted April 19, 2011 Report Posted April 19, 2011 have you forwarded this to Paul, I think Modaco's founding member should be sent free ZTE Devices for development purposes And any other users whose username starts with TCT..... :)
Guest JimJam707 Posted April 19, 2011 Report Posted April 19, 2011 And any other users whose username starts with TCT..... :) Or just every user with a vowel or a consonant in their name xD
Guest Paul Posted April 19, 2011 Report Posted April 19, 2011 I'm away until Tuesday but I'll make contact then! :-) P
Guest t0mm13b Posted April 19, 2011 Report Posted April 19, 2011 Or just every user with a vowel or a consonant in their name xD Does that include TiT :) (Shame about the boobies fiasco... oh well :))
Guest Jekle Posted April 19, 2011 Report Posted April 19, 2011 I'm away until Tuesday but I'll make contact then! :-) P Great Thanks!
Guest rjm2k Posted April 19, 2011 Report Posted April 19, 2011 This is excellent! Should help speed up development - maybe even some cool new stuff for our blades! He says XDA - But i checked over there - isn't there more blade action on MoDaCo? Shame they didn't say this any earlier :) But of course - I am doubtful as to what they will actually do :) Yes it's all been PM'd to Paul, and yes I suggested that Modaco was a better place for this than XDA due to number of Blade users and the difficulty we had in getting a Blade forum on XDA in the first place, the guy said that he already suggested Modaco but that ZTE have a thing about XDA.. see below... Hi there, although there is a ZTE community on XDA the real “home” is at Modaco.com ( http://android.modaco.com/category/453/zte...ade-modaco-com/ ) so you might be better off contacting them there regarding this as they have many more users on there and are probably more open to your help. Ideally if you could look at both websites, that would be even better. I will attempt to make contact with both websites for you and pass on your request. On a PR front, you really could do with passing onto ZTE that they need to improve their policy on releasing source code for which the license terms say they must do so, they have been reasonably ok (though a little slow) with releasing the Linux Kernel code however the version that is public no longer matches the devices that are out in the real world so needs updating, we have attempted to request it from Systems Support but they just say it’s the same code despite the older code not actually compiling for newer devices that are out there. ZTE and the Blade now have a very large community supporting them who are willing to recommend and purchase their products, any help in encouraging them to continue to support us would be great. In addition to the issue related to their obligations to release the source (at least the kernel source) which was used to build each firmware, there have been a few backward steps (possibly at the request of operators?) such as removal of the “bootloader” mode previously available by holding down vol + and powering on, these changes are not impossible to work around by take away the user friendliness from the open source community point of view. I hope this helps and wish you good luck with your move to supporting our community. Regards Rob Thanks Rob We had proposed that they connect with Modaco as well, but they seem a little fixated on XDA at the moment for reasons I am not clear about. It may be that they just have had more contact with XDA and thus have the impression that it’s more important. I’ll pass on your comment (not your email though). Thanks a lot for the help – I’m not sure just how much we can influence the guys in Shanghai, but at least they are getting involved, and I am sure the forum feedback will be listened to – we’ll certainly be feeding that back. Wish I spoke Mandarin, I am sure I’d have more of an impact on them if I did! Cheers I think XDA is just better known but it was a real struggle to get the Blade forum on there, I think it will be the same for any non US devices, they really only started to take notice when I publicised (on Modaco) the XDA Poll on the best non HTC device of 2010, when we finally got the Blade added to the list of candidates I made sure it took off and they ended up winning by quite a margin. They are gaining a lot from the open source community support, there aren’t many devices officially running Gingerbread yet but the Blade is up there with HTC and Samsung devices yet costs a fraction of the price. Thanks Rob – that’s really useful input for me for a call I have tomorrow morning Cheers
Guest jamidodger1 Posted April 19, 2011 Report Posted April 19, 2011 Hmm the XDA forum is a bit 'dead' compared to MoDaCo. :) still haven't been allowed tonpost in Vlade Deelopment on XDA even thou I have 15posts :)
Guest shadowninty Posted April 19, 2011 Report Posted April 19, 2011 Thanks rjm for keeping their attention. Your emails as posted addressed the important issues, with a few compliments and a reminder about keeping future support :)
Guest Magnets Posted April 19, 2011 Report Posted April 19, 2011 XDA were far too slow adding the Blade subforum, and the community rooted itself here. They missed the boat, and there can only be one. This sounds interesting. Call me skeptical, but this person is just part of a PR agency, they don't work directly for ZTE. Are ZTE really going to spend time/money developing 2.2 for an old device? It looks promising though.
Guest hecatae Posted April 19, 2011 Report Posted April 19, 2011 XDA were far too slow adding the Blade subforum, and the community rooted itself here. They missed the boat, and there can only be one. This sounds interesting. Call me skeptical, but this person is just part of a PR agency, they don't work directly for ZTE. Are ZTE really going to spend time/money developing 2.2 for an old device? It looks promising though. this person is being paid to request /pitch /create zte specific device forums on websites. Zte have already created 2.2, it was built for the Softbank 003z build, and if they keep their kernel sources the same as present, then hopefully when the Skate Style S is out their will be a Gingerbread kernel
Guest mELIANTE Posted April 19, 2011 Report Posted April 19, 2011 Maybe they should release the proper kernel source before trying to mingle with the community? Fing liars "released" the "new" ZTE Libra kernel in their support page, only is the same they posted in January... They really think they are smart :)
Guest sane? Posted April 19, 2011 Report Posted April 19, 2011 I work for ZTE’s PR agency, AxiCom, and they are asking us to get involved with keeping an eye on conversations on XDA Developers Forum and ensuring they respond to inquiries, etc. No press releases, no selling, I promise. Translation: they will look to report back to ZTE on general sentiment, and to run interference on those looking to contact ZTE - so ZTE doesn't need to deal with them. For the purposes of people here its only likely to be of use if they have a direct line to someone deep in the development team who has it as part of their job description to provide answers and data - otherwise its another layer, and one that doesn't understand "build parameters" to boot. I’m not sure if you are a moderator or not, but I wondered what the policy was with regard to setting up new forums for individual devices. ZTE are keen to set up a ZTE Light (their tablet) forum and one for the ZTE Skate which is their new (hasn’t yet hit the market) 4.3 inch screen Android handset. As a general thing, I think MoDaCo needs to reorganise forums under manufacturer headings, with the devices one layer down. It's getting quite unruly on the top level forum page. Putting in place a forum for the ZTE 9, 9+ and 11 would be a good move considering the amount of content in the 'other' forum. Mind, the ZTE 9 seems to be a Blade in a bigger jacket, so a degree of commonality in bug solutions, etc. is to be expected.
Guest rjm2k Posted April 20, 2011 Report Posted April 20, 2011 Translation: they will look to report back to ZTE on general sentiment, and to run interference on those looking to contact ZTE - so ZTE doesn't need to deal with them. For the purposes of people here its only likely to be of use if they have a direct line to someone deep in the development team who has it as part of their job description to provide answers and data - otherwise its another layer, and one that doesn't understand "build parameters" to boot. As a general thing, I think MoDaCo needs to reorganise forums under manufacturer headings, with the devices one layer down. It's getting quite unruly on the top level forum page. Putting in place a forum for the ZTE 9, 9+ and 11 would be a good move considering the amount of content in the 'other' forum. Mind, the ZTE 9 seems to be a Blade in a bigger jacket, so a degree of commonality in bug solutions, etc. is to be expected. Obviously we have to take this with a pinch of salt as there could be a different agenda on ZTEs part from what we are being told, but it's one of a few opportunities to influence ZTE directly, in additionI do have a direct contact with the development department, that's how I was able to get the original broken Eclaire source re-released in working form followed by the Froyo source. Gentle influence is the way to deal with them, going at them like a bull in a china shop will get us nowhere and possibly cut the little contact that we have. As for 2.2 on the OSF, I think that's pretty much irrelevant now, what we need is ongoing support and working kernel sources for all released devices.
Guest Mushroom_Lord Posted April 20, 2011 Report Posted April 20, 2011 Good to have an official 2.2 for all the blades...but I still think everyone would rather use Swedish spring, for obvious reasons. I also have some horrible feeling that its going to render our phones locked to their 2.2..... but then again, that would be making themselves hugely unpopular..
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