Guest Amphoras Posted April 20, 2011 Report Posted April 20, 2011 I'm currently running CM7 stable. I've got the options ticked to backup and restore from Google servers. Normally I just do this with Titanium Backup, but I'm wondering how you tell if this is working, and if its not how to get it to work. When I flash a new ROM, I usually setup wifi, log in my google account and download titanium from the market. After that I can restore all the stuff I need. The other day, I couldn't restore one of my apps, it just kept force closing if I tried to run it. I tried installing it directly from the market, but all the data was missing. I also had titanium set to keep 2 backups, but I noticed that its only keeping one, presumably after I downloaded it again one time and it hasn't restored the settings. Should google restore these things, or is it only other things it does? If it should be restoring them, is there anything that could be causing it not to? Thanks in advance.
Guest MDCFan Posted April 20, 2011 Report Posted April 20, 2011 Are you talking about that "backup my data" thingy after you enter your google credentials? It does backup and restore your contacts (and maybe something more), but not the application data.
Guest Amphoras Posted April 20, 2011 Report Posted April 20, 2011 Yeah, seems a bit useless if it only backs up contacts. Your google account syncs that anyway doesn't it? In Privacy settings, for backup, it says "Back up application data, Wi-fi passwords and other settings to Google servers" for restore it says " If i reinstall an application, restore backed-up settings or other data". I've got both of them ticked, does it only work for certain apps?
Guest k0zmic Posted April 20, 2011 Report Posted April 20, 2011 (edited) It works great, whenever you install a new ROM 2.2+ it'll automatically re-install Apps, WiFi passwords in addition to the usual such as contacts, Gmail etc. Developers have to use the API if bits of the data in the apps e.g. highscores are backed up. Unfortunately, not many do. Would be nice if it did SMS too. Edited April 21, 2011 by k0zmic
Guest sambartle Posted April 21, 2011 Report Posted April 21, 2011 Yep its pretty seamless.. you sign in.. just leave the phone on on WiFi and it magically pulls down all the apps you had..
Guest jamidodger1 Posted April 21, 2011 Report Posted April 21, 2011 You don't think that the wifi password thing is a bit dodgy after the streetview issue?
Guest ColdEmbrace Posted April 21, 2011 Report Posted April 21, 2011 You don't think that the wifi password thing is a bit dodgy after the streetview issue? Lol maybe so. But it saves me re-entering it everytime my key is rather secure and a pain to type on a phone.
Guest k0zmic Posted April 21, 2011 Report Posted April 21, 2011 (edited) Lol maybe so. But it saves me re-entering it everytime my key is rather secure and a pain to type on a phone. Same for me. I don't really mind, Google have most my details I may as well just give them my Wi-Fi password since it's so convenient. The street view thing was only for unsecured networks I believe. Also, it saves passwords from other Wi-Fi networks. e.g. at your family's house. Asking each time for the key is a bit annoying. Edited April 21, 2011 by k0zmic
Guest Michealtbh Posted April 21, 2011 Report Posted April 21, 2011 I assume this only works for market apps? Do apps/themes etc that aren't on the market get restored?
Guest k0zmic Posted April 21, 2011 Report Posted April 21, 2011 I assume this only works for market apps? Do apps/themes etc that aren't on the market get restored? Nope only Market apps.
Guest evilpaul Posted April 21, 2011 Report Posted April 21, 2011 You don't think that the wifi password thing is a bit dodgy after the streetview issue? It's a different issue entirely. With the StreetView issue Google was recording WiFi data without user permission, but in this case the user is specifically requesting Google to store data.
Guest Amphoras Posted April 21, 2011 Report Posted April 21, 2011 I uninstalled something called FOTA Kill, and ticked/unticked the backup box a few times and its all working now. Thanks for the help everyone.
Guest jamidodger1 Posted April 21, 2011 Report Posted April 21, 2011 It's a different issue entirely. With the StreetView issue Google was recording WiFi data without user permission, but in this case the user is specifically requesting Google to store data. I was joking....
Guest IPB_Refugee Posted April 22, 2011 Report Posted April 22, 2011 What exactly are the possible advantages and disadvantages of this feature? I'm pretty sure that I don't want Google to know the passphrases of my WiFi networks... What other private data do they want to store? At the moment I use Appbrain's app to remember the apps I installed on my Blade. I really like Appbrain but of course I hope that Google will improve their market. There is still much left to do. Happy Easter Wolfgang
Guest k0zmic Posted April 22, 2011 Report Posted April 22, 2011 What exactly are the possible advantages and disadvantages of this feature? I'm pretty sure that I don't want Google to know the passphrases of my WiFi networks... What other private data do they want to store? At the moment I use Appbrain's app to remember the apps I installed on my Blade. I really like Appbrain but of course I hope that Google will improve their market. There is still much left to do. Happy Easter Wolfgang Advantages: Quick Seamless Less messy than Titanium Backup Generally convenient Disadvantages: Some people say it uses excessive battery. Never had a problem myself though. Giving your Wi-Fi password to Google. Doesn't always work when restoring.
Guest ColdEmbrace Posted April 22, 2011 Report Posted April 22, 2011 Advantages: Quick Seamless Less messy than Titanium Backup Generally convenient Disadvantages: Some people say it uses excessive battery. Never had a problem myself though. Giving your Wi-Fi password to Google. Doesn't always work when restoring. I agree with most of that But I find it only does some apps or maybe i just dont let it install everything. But I think giving google my WiFi WPA2 key is fine i mean it's probably encrypted.
Guest k0zmic Posted April 22, 2011 Report Posted April 22, 2011 I agree with most of that But I find it only does some apps or maybe i just dont let it install everything. But I think giving google my WiFi WPA2 key is fine i mean it's probably encrypted. It attempts to do all Market Apps. I think it misses some if there isn't enough storage etc. and shows 'X number of apps partially restored' in the notification bar. True, it probably has to be to meet with Data protection acts.
Guest targetbsp Posted April 22, 2011 Report Posted April 22, 2011 I personally think it's unlikely that someone is going to drive from google to my house to abuse my wi-fi... :)
Guest ColdEmbrace Posted April 22, 2011 Report Posted April 22, 2011 I personally think it's unlikely that someone is going to drive from google to my house to abuse my wi-fi... :) I disagree my WiFi would totally be worth the drive :) And about the space issue i agree but i install via app monster before google finishes loading I guess
Guest k0zmic Posted April 22, 2011 Report Posted April 22, 2011 (edited) I personally think it's unlikely that someone is going to drive from google to my house to abuse my wi-fi... :) Precisely, then again mine is fibre optic so people in the UK might desperately want 45MB download speeds :) Edited April 22, 2011 by k0zmic
Guest IPB_Refugee Posted April 23, 2011 Report Posted April 23, 2011 @k0zmic et al: Thanks for your answers! I personally think it's unlikely that someone is going to drive from google to my house to abuse my wi-fi... :) I love Android but I don't thrust Google _that_ much. There is data they shouldn't know and they shouldn't even try to gain. My humble opinion Wolfgang
Guest ColdEmbrace Posted April 23, 2011 Report Posted April 23, 2011 Precisely, then again mine is fibre optic so people in the UK might desperately want 45MB download speeds :) Likewise you might want my house for its 50Mbps :)
Guest jamidodger1 Posted April 23, 2011 Report Posted April 23, 2011 Likewise you might want my house for its 50Mbps :) Thats why I hate living in Norfolk, no fiber optics, 6Mbps At Top's :/
Guest targetbsp Posted April 23, 2011 Report Posted April 23, 2011 However impressed you are with your broadband... I'm betting googles is better. :)
Guest k0zmic Posted April 23, 2011 Report Posted April 23, 2011 (edited) However impressed you are with your broadband... I'm betting googles is better. :) Oh for sure, South Korea has 1GB internet coming in 2012 though. I think 100MB there costs about £15. Edited April 23, 2011 by k0zmic
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