GEN 1 & GEN2 - Suggesting and Questioning

[Guest Taliban]

Honestly I leave the suggestion to create a sub-forum designated to GEN1 series and another to GEN2.

As I am surfing these pages it's getting very messy and hard to follow development's of both series as well as the day by day tip's and difficulties that user's have for each GEN.

Overall and after reading several topics and bricked phones announcement's I would like to know from you guys that had GEN1 and got into GEN2 what's the main advantages to go into this "upgrade".

Is it worth the risk? Does Blade get's real time improvement's?

I still have my Blade in GEN1 using Paul's Modaco R12, should I consider going into GEN2?

Anyone please? :mellow:

Many thanks...

Edited April 28, 2011 by Taliban

[Guest rwalton159]

Honestly I leave the suggestion to create a sub-forum designated to GEN1 series and another to GEN2.

As I am surfing these pages it's getting very messy and hard to follow development's of both series as well as the day by day tip's and difficulties that user's have for each GEN.

Overall and after reading several topics and bricked phones announcement's I would like to know from you guys that had GEN1 and got into GEN2 what's the main advantages to go into this "upgrade".

Is it worth the risk? Does Blade get's real time improvement's?

I still have my Blade in GEN1 using Paul's Modaco R12, should I consider going into GEN2?

Anyone please? :o

Many thanks...

Good question and I look forward to reading feedback on this :mellow:

[Guest Taliban]

Honestly I leave the suggestion to create a sub-forum designated to GEN1 series and another to GEN2.

As I am surfing these pages it's getting very messy and hard to follow development's of both series as well as the day by day tip's and difficulties that user's have for each GEN.

Overall and after reading several topics and bricked phones announcement's I would like to know from you guys that had GEN1 and got into GEN2 what's the main advantages to go into this "upgrade".

Is it worth the risk? Does Blade get's real time improvement's?

I still have my Blade in GEN1 using Paul's Modaco R12, should I consider going into GEN2?

Anyone please? :mellow:

Many thanks...

Well, just found part of the answer to my question somewhere in the dozen's of thread's mixed all together:

http://android.modaco.com/content/zte-blad...1/gen1-vs-gen2/

Still I leave the suggestion above and if anyone still wish to leave any input, I will thank you guys.

"Cheers"

Edited April 28, 2011 by Taliban

[Guest travellerscross]

I really think this is a very good suggestion to be honest with you. Gen1 & Gen2 does certainly need to be subdivided as it's getting completely messy.

For me I am holding off going to Gen2. I really would like to go to this, but with a fair few screwing up and asking the same questions over and over again, we do need a section in how to get from Gen1 to Gen2. Yes there is posts in regards to this, but a simple post with no posts allowed to be added in just the basics of how to do this. The same for Gen1 users who wish to move to CM7.

It's getting too messy and my eyes just groan at the amount of posts I need to go through to get from A-Z in understanding the move to Gen2 (Whilst it may be simple, too many are posting about end result problems). Whilst agreed there is a fair success rate, it's not successful enough when IMEI numbers are disappearing into the ethers and you need this file and back up that file and do this file. At this rate you need a Degree in even trying to get everything ready and have files in order in case anything get's screwed up.

It's just too messy, the ZTE Blade users - need clarity, need to find the posts with ease if they have failed in something. To be left like this in the mess it is has really put me off trying to move to Gen2 in the past few weeks. This is not a pointing fingers at Modaco - far from it. This site is really helpful to it's users, but we have a lot of people who wish to stay at Gen1 for fear of temporarily bricking their phone. I can't blame them, as my eyes are like :mellow: at even trying to understand all this process.

For Gen2 what is really needed is a simple full proof method of transfer for Gen1 to Gen2 if possible. I don't have a clue in how to do that and take my hat of to those who have done this. But it needs to be simple it truly does, otherwise people are just going to stick with Gen1. I do believe that there will come a time when Gen2 will be better and have more reasons to move to this version than to stay at Gen1. But again the process needs to be simple, it needs be KISS...

Is it possible to make it any easier? I don't know but I do hope so...

Me who's staying Gen1 for now... Until all this mess is sorted out and there is clear details in what to do and what happens if XY or Z pops up and how to knock it on the head without too many 'I bricked the phone posts' appearing time and time again on the very same issues.

Edited April 29, 2011 by travellerscross

[Guest Flumpster]

Until recently it was a complicated (for some) process to go from Gen 1 to Gen 2 with the possibility of bricking your phone and losing your IMIE number.

Since wbaw's TPT method came along it is the simplest thing in the world.

There are only really 2 roms at the moment that I know of that supports Gen 2 and they are Swedish Spring and CyanogenMod 7.

If you want to go to CyanogenMod then follow the first post in this link Here.

This will do everything for you. Change it to Gen 2. Update your Clockwork. Repartition the system. Wipe it and install the rom. There is nothing really for you to do.

If you want to use Swedish Spring then follow the first post in this link Here

This will just update to Gen 2. Update your clockwork. Repartition the system but wont install any rom so then you would go into clockwork as you normally would and install Swedish Spring.

It is worth reading the first post of those 2 threads all the way thru anyway to get a better understanding.

Any questions after that come back and ask.

[Guest The Soup Thief]

@travellerscross

The first post in the pinned topic by wbaw, entitled "Gen1 to Gen2 TPT upgrade, No Windows needed, faster, easier, safer, doesn't lose TPT mode" is the only one you really need if you want to upgrade to gen2 - you will then need to install a gen2 rom seperately (you might wanna put on swedish spring, maybe?)

Alternatively, the first post by curl66 in the thread entitled [GEN1&GEN2][ROM]CM 7.0.2stable + N57 TPT Image for easy Install gives you all the same information and uses the same approach but in addition to upgrading your phone to Gen2 it will also install a Cyanogenmod ROM (nighty 57) at the same time

These two threads both assume you have not previously used the windows method to flash to gen2 - believe me, you would be very aware of it if you had done this, so I'm assuming you haven't

If you have not used this windows method previously then you only need take notice of information relating to the TPT (Total Phone Transfer) method of switching gen1-gen2 and you should ignore all the posts relating to the windows method - madness that way lies

Hope that makes sense - the TPT method really is extremely straightforward

EDIT - Flumpster posted as I was explaining - happily we've given the same advice! :mellow:

Edited April 29, 2011 by The Soup Thief

[Guest leetron1]

Come along Master Jacob...hows progress with a foolproof method to downgrade back to gen1 for the windows gen2 flashers...so we can use the TPT method?

(and thanks again :mellow: )

[Guest hedgepigdaniel]

Come along Master Jacob...hows progress with a foolproof method to downgrade back to gen1 for the windows gen2 flashers...so we can use the TPT method?

(and thanks again :mellow: )

If you have successfully upgraded to Gen2 using the windows flasher, why do you want to go back to Gen1 and then to Gen2 again? If you look around there is a clear method in a thread with a ZTE diagnostic tool - though its a little compllicated.

[Guest leetron1]

If you have successfully upgraded to Gen2 using the windows flasher, why do you want to go back to Gen1 and then to Gen2 again? If you look around there is a clear method in a thread with a ZTE diagnostic tool - though its a little compllicated.

Unfortunately my friend it is a tad complicated so maybe in need of some HCDR pixie dust?

Edited April 29, 2011 by leetron1

[Guest Flumpster]

If you have successfully upgraded to Gen2 using the windows flasher, why do you want to go back to Gen1 and then to Gen2 again? If you look around there is a clear method in a thread with a ZTE diagnostic tool - though its a little compllicated.

He probably wants to because the windows flasher method loses the ability to use TPT.

[Guest travellerscross]

Flumpster & The Soup Thief

Thank you to both of you taking the time to address my concern. That has helped a great deal actually and saved a lot of grief and confusion. I was just getting overwhelmed with the amount of posts and 'do this or do that' and I just went cross eyed in the process, which scared me off from even daring to try to move to Gen2.

Now that I have clarity and can see what is what, I am less hesitant to move over to Gen2. I will once I read it all again thoroughly I will be able to understand the process more clearly and what to do.

Thank you to both of you as now it has given me the confidence to try this out on the 2 ZTE Blades I have and want to move to Gen2. Again thanks to both of you and your time in addressing my concerns. It's appreciated :mellow:

[Guest Flumpster]

Flumpster & The Soup Thief

Thank you to both of you taking the time to address my concern. That has helped a great deal actually and saved a lot of grief and confusion. I was just getting overwhelmed with the amount of posts and 'do this or do that' and I just went cross eyed in the process, which scared me off from even daring to try to move to Gen2.

Now that I have clarity and can see what is what, I am less hesitant to move over to Gen2. I will once I read it all again thoroughly I will be able to understand the process more clearly and what to do.

Thank you to both of you as now it has given me the confidence to try this out on the 2 ZTE Blades I have and want to move to Gen2. Again thanks to both of you and your time in addressing my concerns. It's appreciated :mellow:

The advantage of using the TPT method we mentioned is that you can go back to GEN 1 just as easily.

Personally I would go with the full CyanogenMod TPT to try first of all.. You have nothing to lose and if you find it to unstable then you can just go into clockwork any time after (or use rom manager which is included in cyanogen) and flash Swedish Spring like you always have with any other rom in the past.

Instructions in very basic steps for you.

Make sure battery has enough power to complete process.. Over 20 percent to be safe.

Download this zip file Here

Extract this file on your computer and you will see that it creates an "image" folder with about 17 files inside.

Copy this folder to the root of your sd card (so on the very beginning of the SD card you have the image folder with the files inside.)

Power off the phone and unplug from usb or charger.

Hold down "menu" button and "volume up" together and while holding them then hold the power button also.

A lot of text should now start on your screen and you can leave go of the buttons at this point.

Wait until rom comes on.

Job done. :o

This process will also work on brand new phones. No messing about installing clockwork thru fastboot or any of the other methods used in the past.

Edited April 29, 2011 by Flumpster

[Guest Bounceonit]

This was just the thread I was looking for.Thanks all for taking time to explain to us noobs what needs to be done.Much appreciated :mellow:

[Guest Fou-lu]

This was just the thread I was looking for.Thanks all for taking time to explain to us noobs what needs to be done.Much appreciated :mellow:

It's probably easier to just TPT a stock out of the Box SF and get the rom/clockwork installed instantly, then it is to flash Clockwork etc manualy, whilst getting the GEN2 upgrade at same time, wbaw is Hero for GEN1 people xD

the blade is probably the easiest hacked phone ever.

Edited April 30, 2011 by Fou-lu

[Guest shmizan]

I upgraded mine not a long ago and there is significant improvement in the reception.

but that's because my operator is using 850 Mhz band, which was unlocked in the blade using this upgrade.

the dangers are minimal and if you do it right and by instructions nothing will go wrong.

[Guest shootomanUK]

Come along Master Jacob...hows progress with a foolproof method to downgrade back to gen1 for the windows gen2 flashers...so we can use the TPT method?

(and thanks again :mellow: )

there is an easy method to downgrade, i have just downgraded mine :

here's the link:

http://android.modaco.com/content/zte-blad...rade-from-gen2/