Guest Jase Etheridge Posted June 12, 2011 Report Posted June 12, 2011 Hi all. Does any know if advent are planing an official honeycomb release? Not that I care to much as with things like vega-comb with are sorted (thanks for your hard work). Cheers
Guest Richard_Arkless Posted June 12, 2011 Report Posted June 12, 2011 (edited) Hi all. Does any know if advent are planing an official honeycomb release? Not that I care to much as with things like vega-comb with are sorted (thanks for your hard work). Cheers Well google aren't releasing the source code to the public and small businesses like advent and is only giving it out to key manufacturers like acer, asus, motorola, etc but google will probably release the source code for ice cream sandwich as soon as its released which is expected to be q4 of 2011 Edited June 12, 2011 by Richard_Arkless
Guest spachal Posted June 13, 2011 Report Posted June 13, 2011 http://www.fudzilla.com/notebooks/item/220...o-get-honeycomb ;] ..
Guest Vansphone Posted June 13, 2011 Report Posted June 13, 2011 http://www.fudzilla.com/notebooks/item/220...o-get-honeycomb ;] .. Well the prediction in the article that we could "expect to see Honeycomb, Android 3.0 for Mobii tablets by April." was not so good.
Guest Remington Steale Posted June 13, 2011 Report Posted June 13, 2011 Hi all. Does any know if advent are planing an official honeycomb release? Not that I care to much as with things like vega-comb with are sorted (thanks for your hard work). Cheers Send a few shekels the way of the vegacomb team, I think you have more chance with that than an official release from advent or one of the others.
Guest Jase Etheridge Posted June 13, 2011 Report Posted June 13, 2011 So do 'point of view' make the device for Advent or are they another OEM provider?
Guest aj2703 Posted June 13, 2011 Report Posted June 13, 2011 This one on ebay supposedly has it, so i guess you can.. **Link deleted** ALL ebay ad's to be in the ebay section of the forum
Guest sipart Posted June 13, 2011 Report Posted June 13, 2011 This is VegaComb - newbe has tweeted about users advertising their Vega's as a Honeycomb tablets when they have Vegacomb is the unfair and unrepresentative - which I agree with - fair enough mention that other ROM's are available and a beta version of Honeycomb available - but not that it's a "HoneyComb tablet".
Guest Jase Etheridge Posted June 13, 2011 Report Posted June 13, 2011 I think 'aj2703' is being a little bit naughty. Trying to slip in an eBay ad that's not particularly relevant to this thread. ;)
Guest jaykyte Posted June 13, 2011 Report Posted June 13, 2011 I think 'aj2703' is being a little bit naughty. Trying to slip in an eBay ad that's not particularly relevant to this thread. ;) lol i think aj2703 isnt being "naughty" at all and the link was very relivent in respects it points to a vega that is being sold as a real honeycomb vega...but really has the beta vegacomb installed...... :P
Guest mintvilla Posted June 13, 2011 Report Posted June 13, 2011 Am 99% certain that we wont see any more updates to our advent vega from advent themselves. They are not one of googles partnered companies and thus do not have honeycomb. Honeycomb was expected to be made open source, so alot of retail sellers, advertised that honeycomb was "coming soon" as they expected if its open sourced, then advent would have the source files and thus could do an update fairly easily. Because this wasnt the case and the next open sourced upgrade is ICS (ice cream sandwich) i doubt advent will do an official update for ICS as there a small company, and the vega would of been out for over a year by then, and there probally a decent change the the vega2 will be out with ICS out the box. But all isnt lost, vegacomb is pretty decent rom since the source files arent available, and as soon as ICS comes out am sure it wont take too long before we have it, as we should have 2 options by then, if newbe5 and corvus continue there good work, we'll have a great rom from them, but also there will be a cm7 version (be cm8 by then) which will be great, as i'l be able to have cm8 on my phone and the same cm8 on my tablet, yet they will look totally different. However if you bought the vega thinking that advent will upgrade it offially i wouldnt get my hopes up about that, they wont be getting Honeycomb, and like i said i doubt they will bother with ICS And btw if you see ebay posts about a honeycomb tablet, its just running vegacomb.... the guy whos selling them is doing most of the posting, on various advent vega/android threads.
Guest derffie Posted June 13, 2011 Report Posted June 13, 2011 Hi all. Does any know if advent are planing an official honeycomb release? Not that I care to much as with things like vega-comb with are sorted (thanks for your hard work). Cheers Just google android ice cream samwich' you will get the jist of it, honeycomb is nothing more than a stop gap till ics, unifing android, and it will run on all android devices no questions, (so old devices are given a new lease of life) as this is google upping the anti against apples ios, interestingly a couple of articles I've read recently say that pcs netbooks, i86x hardware could run this version... gunna give windows a run too by the sounds of things, if its a official release for the vega who knows yet, but I'm sure that what hardware has had honeycomb released on it, is it for the "offical" life of honeycomb.
Guest Mark_L Posted June 13, 2011 Report Posted June 13, 2011 (edited) OK, lets put this to bed....again! Honeycomb WILL be released under Android open source. Google have said it will be, I can probably dig up the origional article if anyone wants it bad enough. Basically Google are after the ipad and apple. Honeycomb is meant to be their anti-ipad weapon. This is why its release under AOSP has been delayed. Google want to make sure that anything with honeycomb on is a pucka product. They are apparently working closely with manufacturers to ensure this happens. As soon as they release honeycomb under AOSP all sorts of devices will come out, they want to control this and set the bar really high first. Sounds like good business sense to me. Once honeycomb is released Advent may do an official release. Don't think so? Well here's why it may happen... Advent already have a product that will run honeycomb, the Vega. Why develop a new product from scratch to get a honeycomb product when they can just upgrade an existing one? Upgrading an existing one with a new ROM is far cheaper the doing R&D on a whole new device. What's more its not like if they upgrade the Vega with a new ROM they'd be losing sales, not many people with a Vega would be likely to spend out on a new device to get a honeycomb tablet. And if they did there's no guarantee they'd buy an advent product... EDIT Ohhh and as for ICS, that's just honeycomb but refactored for mobile devices. Edited June 13, 2011 by Mark_L
Guest phil8715 Posted June 14, 2011 Report Posted June 14, 2011 OK, lets put this to bed....again! Honeycomb WILL be released under Android open source. Google have said it will be, I can probably dig up the origional article if anyone wants it bad enough. Basically Google are after the ipad and apple. Honeycomb is meant to be their anti-ipad weapon. This is why its release under AOSP has been delayed. Google want to make sure that anything with honeycomb on is a pucka product. They are apparently working closely with manufacturers to ensure this happens. As soon as they release honeycomb under AOSP all sorts of devices will come out, they want to control this and set the bar really high first. Sounds like good business sense to me. Once honeycomb is released Advent may do an official release. Don't think so? Well here's why it may happen... Advent already have a product that will run honeycomb, the Vega. Why develop a new product from scratch to get a honeycomb product when they can just upgrade an existing one? Upgrading an existing one with a new ROM is far cheaper the doing R&D on a whole new device. What's more its not like if they upgrade the Vega with a new ROM they'd be losing sales, not many people with a Vega would be likely to spend out on a new device to get a honeycomb tablet. And if they did there's no guarantee they'd buy an advent product... EDIT Ohhh and as for ICS, that's just honeycomb but refactored for mobile devices. As I see it when you buy the Advent Vega, out the box its no better than the iPad. But when you mod it and put on say the Modaco R8 rom it makes it 100 times better than the iPad. It would be nice if Advent officially release a Honeycomb version, I've played with the VegaComb which to be honest isnt to far off finished. But reading what Newbie5 has tweeted he's in two minds to start again or just continue the VegaComb project. Either officially or unofficially we will get Honeycomb on the Vega.
Guest mintvilla Posted June 14, 2011 Report Posted June 14, 2011 OK, lets put this to bed....again! Honeycomb WILL be released under Android open source. Google have said it will be, I can probably dig up the origional article if anyone wants it bad enough. Basically Google are after the ipad and apple. Honeycomb is meant to be their anti-ipad weapon. This is why its release under AOSP has been delayed. Google want to make sure that anything with honeycomb on is a pucka product. They are apparently working closely with manufacturers to ensure this happens. As soon as they release honeycomb under AOSP all sorts of devices will come out, they want to control this and set the bar really high first. Sounds like good business sense to me. Once honeycomb is released Advent may do an official release. Don't think so? Well here's why it may happen... Advent already have a product that will run honeycomb, the Vega. Why develop a new product from scratch to get a honeycomb product when they can just upgrade an existing one? Upgrading an existing one with a new ROM is far cheaper the doing R&D on a whole new device. What's more its not like if they upgrade the Vega with a new ROM they'd be losing sales, not many people with a Vega would be likely to spend out on a new device to get a honeycomb tablet. And if they did there's no guarantee they'd buy an advent product... EDIT Ohhh and as for ICS, that's just honeycomb but refactored for mobile devices. No actually google said at their I/O that the next version of android will be open sourced, they aren't releasing Honeycomb as open source. ICS will be the next one thats open sourced. And by your logic, HTC Samsung etc would never release a new phone, when they can just update the software? - Or maybe they might think we can have the vega2, with ICS and a better screen, and pack an 8gb card and price it back at the £250 mark. The reason why they havnt released it as open source is that they didnt want people putting it on phones, when its not ready to go on phones, hence why they wont release it for open source until its ready to be on a phone ie when ICS is ready.
Guest rvdgeer Posted June 14, 2011 Report Posted June 14, 2011 No actually google said at their I/O that the next version of android will be open sourced, they aren't releasing Honeycomb as open source. ICS will be the next one thats open sourced. And by your logic, HTC Samsung etc would never release a new phone, when they can just update the software? - Or maybe they might think we can have the vega2, with ICS and a better screen, and pack an 8gb card and price it back at the £250 mark. The reason why they havnt released it as open source is that they didnt want people putting it on phones, when its not ready to go on phones, hence why they wont release it for open source until its ready to be on a phone ie when ICS is ready. Point Of View (The Mobii Tegra Tablet is a Vega clone) just changed their FAQs, which now say there won't be an official firmware update past Android 2.2 (Froyo) Wasn't really expecting them to release Honeycomb officially, so no surprise for me... They do mention a newer tablet will come, featuring Android 3.0... This will very likely be an entirely different tablet, hardware wise, which means no easy porting...
Guest mintvilla Posted June 14, 2011 Report Posted June 14, 2011 Point Of View (The Mobii Tegra Tablet is a Vega clone) just changed their FAQs, which now say there won't be an official firmware update past Android 2.2 (Froyo) Wasn't really expecting them to release Honeycomb officially, so no surprise for me... They do mention a newer tablet will come, featuring Android 3.0... This will very likely be an entirely different tablet, hardware wise, which means no easy porting... That pretty much just backs up what i said in my original post. If they are doing a new tablet though hopefully it should still have the tegra2 processor so porting will be alil easier. Still though once ICS comes open sourced, then it wont really matter as we'll have the source files.
Guest Mark_L Posted June 14, 2011 Report Posted June 14, 2011 No actually google said at their I/O that the next version of android will be open sourced, they aren't releasing Honeycomb as open source. ICS will be the next one thats open sourced. And by your logic, HTC Samsung etc would never release a new phone, when they can just update the software? - Or maybe they might think we can have the vega2, with ICS and a better screen, and pack an 8gb card and price it back at the £250 mark. The reason why they havnt released it as open source is that they didnt want people putting it on phones, when its not ready to go on phones, hence why they wont release it for open source until its ready to be on a phone ie when ICS is ready. Fair enough, in which case I stand corrrected, they must have changed thier policy as they previously said it would deffinately be released under AOSP. But I stand by my other point, I think that either I didn't explain myself well enough or you just misunderstood me. From a business point of view releasing a honeycomb based update for the vega would make sense for Advent. The Vega has been available for a little over 8 months. In that time hardware has not moved on much, or rather to put it another way the hardware that you would put in a £200 tablet has not evolved very much. If Advent sat down now to design another £200 tablet it would have a very similar hardware spec to the Vega now. So there is very little to be gained from releasing a brand new 'Vega2', unless they wanted to pitch at a higher price point. Doing that and not doing a budget tablet for £200 woudn't make sense as at the moment Advent have the budget tablet market in thier pocket with the vega. If they released a Honeycomb update for the Vega they would have a product with an epic amount of performance, value and sheer awsomeness. They have a product that would potentially take an even bigger big slice of the tablet market. If they release another product with Honeycomb at a higher price point then they are not being very smart, the >£300 segmet is goign to be choked with products soon enough. It's far better to have a single awsome budget product, than a mid range product thats fighting for space and and out of date budget product that no ones buying....
Guest derffie Posted June 14, 2011 Report Posted June 14, 2011 I love what you say to be true, but as myself, mintvilla and few others have posted, the only thing concerete right now is the future of android which, google are not hiding, manufacturers plans have not been made clear so what Advent do is pure conjecture at this point, so to take George Orwell in vain, software good, hardware bad! LOL! I wouldn't get too upset about honeycomb, its life was intentionaly short, it paves the way for better things progess and all that! Viva la ice cream!
Guest Qwertymon Posted June 14, 2011 Report Posted June 14, 2011 they said a gingerbread update would follow early in 2011 and it didnt, so I wouldnt expect dsgi to release honeycomb, just hope the devs do well.
Guest phil8715 Posted June 14, 2011 Report Posted June 14, 2011 they said a gingerbread update would follow early in 2011 and it didnt, so I wouldnt expect dsgi to release honeycomb, just hope the devs do well. Gingerbread isn't being released for the HTC Desire either, so I wouldn't worry about it. If Honeycomb gets released or it doesn't, we'll will more than likely get ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich) instead, which seems a better prospect.
Guest premieral Posted June 15, 2011 Report Posted June 15, 2011 Gingerbread isn't being released for the HTC Desire either, so I wouldn't worry about it. If Honeycomb gets released or it doesn't, we'll will more than likely get ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich) instead, which seems a better prospect. exactly and to be honest what does it matter, i bought the vega to play with and do with exactly what it does running most of the new roms on here. there will always be a flashier more impressive looking bit of kit on the horizon but it will still boil down to the fact that at the end of the day ( how many metaphors can you cram in one sentence ;) ) it browses faster than ipad ( i have one ) it plays movies , it plays games it does exactly whaqt you need a small tablet to do. Rather than honeycomb i would prefer someone to figure out how to improve the screen easily :P
Guest phil8715 Posted June 15, 2011 Report Posted June 15, 2011 exactly and to be honest what does it matter, i bought the vega to play with and do with exactly what it does running most of the new roms on here. there will always be a flashier more impressive looking bit of kit on the horizon but it will still boil down to the fact that at the end of the day ( how many metaphors can you cram in one sentence ;) ) it browses faster than ipad ( i have one ) it plays movies , it plays games it does exactly whaqt you need a small tablet to do. Rather than honeycomb i would prefer someone to figure out how to improve the screen easily :P I like the Vega as it is now. The AndyPad tablet looks like a nice piece of kit when released in September. My brother bought an iPad 2 a couple of months ago on a 2 year contract, and now it's going to be obsolete by the end of the year when Apple release ipad 3. Unless Advent release Vega 2 with 3g people may buy it, but I can't see many people wanting to upgrade to Vega 2.
Guest stustu12 Posted June 17, 2011 Report Posted June 17, 2011 Well google aren't releasing the source code to the public and small businesses like advent and is only giving it out to key manufacturers like acer, asus, motorola, etc but google will probably release the source code for ice cream sandwich as soon as its released which is expected to be q4 of 2011 im using vegacomb 1.6 and to be honest its great a couple of things still dont function but i dont lose any slep over them YET
Guest BTatHome Posted June 17, 2011 Report Posted June 17, 2011 Gingerbread isn't being released for the HTC Desire either, so I wouldn't worry about it. Looks like HTC changed their mind on that one already ;)
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