ZOMG BRICKED

[Guest t0mm13b]

Right...

Everyone, can you support this thread by getting this stickied for newbies who come on and post a similar title in a different context 'HELP, MY BLADE IS BRICKED' or 'CANT BOOT WONT BOOT IS IT BRICKED'.....

Quite frankly, using the terminology 'bricked' has somewhat made their way into the newbies's heads even before posting similarly titled question to the forums!!!.... That is I am not knocking them, am just trying to ease their nerves from where-ever they got the notion of that 'bricked' come from, be it word of mouth, tweet, text, email etc, so please folks, help out and do your bit by getting this stickied...

This applies regardless of what kind of handset you may have, be it, Sony, HTC, Huawei, Motorola, to name but a few.

For starters:

Bricked - it means, your handset will not even switch on, despite checking for battery connections, if the connections are okie, and the handset will refuse to start, no amount of cussing/swearing will cajole it back to life nor no boot logo nor power light comes on (if applicable - check if not a hardware fault firstly)... a dead useless paperweight...

If the handset boots (logo appears, power light comes on if applicable), but you think its bricked, then whoever gave you the concept and idea into your own head, should be hung out to dry! Simple. :)

A simple guideline:

The only guaranteed way of bricking a handset is for example, for the case of the ZTE Blade community, is to TPT, and somewhat, remove the SD-Card in the middle of the flash progress, OR, with a cable plugged in, and a dedicated software (by dedicated, I mean, a designated software for such designated handset), in which the software is flashing a firmware (read, not a ROM nor a ClockworkMod) and pull the cable in the middle of the flashing process or even, flashing a firmware on a handset whose battery juice is standing at approximately 5% (recommended guideline for this, ensure battery is at 75% full prior to flashing firmware) - guaranteed a brick. If you did not carry out such a procedure - then you do not have a brick! :rolleyes:

You are not going to get a brick by flashing a ROM nor flashing a newer version of ClockworkMod designated for your handset.

So, please, please take this on-board and do not post "OMG TIS A BRICK" or "ARRRGGHHH HELP ME PURRRRLEEEASSE"

A cool head is a head that can solve! ;)

(No not Confucious, I made that up!) :D

Edited November 9, 2011 by t0mm13b

[Guest digitaltoast]

You are not going to get a brick by flashing a ROM nor flashing a newer version of ClockworkMod designated for your handset.

So when I tried to install GSF on a new phone, and the second file said "error" as it scrolled up the list, then when I turned it off, nothing happened, ever, no lights, no buzz, USB not recognised by PC ... what's the term for that?

[Guest t0mm13b]

So when I tried to install GSF on a new phone, and the second file said "error" as it scrolled up the list, then when I turned it off, nothing happened, ever, no lights, no buzz, USB not recognised by PC ... what's the term for that?

Did you check the MD5 sum, how did you install GSF, did you Gen1 to Gen2 it via TPT, sd card failure, ... more likely, not reading the threads properly, term for that is possibly a hardware fault or PEBKAC (Problem Exists Between Keyboard and Chair) :) (The key is here, it was saying 'second error')

Edited November 9, 2011 by t0mm13b

[Guest hugobosslives]

So when I tried to install GSF on a new phone, and the second file said "error" as it scrolled up the list, then when I turned it off, nothing happened, ever, no lights, no buzz, USB not recognised by PC ... what's the term for that?

you have not bricked it. it is still easily recovervable.

the term for that is screwed up flashing (either your fault or a md5 etc fault)

you cannot really brick your phone through clockwork.

[Guest iKrautDroid]

GoGo t0mm13b...

[Guest plegdroid]

GoGo t0mm13b...

+1 :D

[Guest paddymcn]

How pretentious is this thread

[Guest t0mm13b]

How pretentious is this thread

Its quite simple, newbies over-react and think they have "bricked" their handsets, this thread aims to dispel the myth surrounding it and explain it in plain english to empower them with new-found knowledge - what's pretentious about that? :)

[Guest plegdroid]

Its quite simple, newbies over-react and think they have "bricked" their handsets, this thread aims to dispel the myth surrounding it and explain it in plain english to empower them with new-found knowledge - what's pretentious about that? :)

if knowledge is pretentious, that will make anyone helping another person also pretentious, me personally iam glad that people like t0mm13b are here to help when things go t1t$ up...

[Guest ThrashMan]

So when I tried to install GSF on a new phone, and the second file said "error" as it scrolled up the list, then when I turned it off, nothing happened, ever, no lights, no buzz, USB not recognised by PC ... what's the term for that?

Stupid!? error = error wtf did you expect?

[Guest ThrashMan]

How pretentious is this thread

Not at all.....it's a request that n00bs that don't read all the instructions don't over react in the forums before putting some effort into reading the stickies.

[Guest dirlan2001]

Not at all.....it's a request that n00bs that don't read all the instructions don't over react in the forums before putting some effort into reading the stickies.

Hmmm, you're right in one way... At the other hand, I suggest maybe there should be a 'smart' clean-up done to the stickies. Some are really out-dated to say the least.... and maybe the links to files should get a sort of 'have-you-read-and-understood-the-thread'-lock.

:D

[Guest targetbsp]

I don't even like the term 'bricked' for something that is actually completely and permanently broken. That's what the word 'broken' is for. :P

[Guest t0mm13b]

I don't even like the term 'bricked' for something that is actually completely and permanently broken. That's what the word 'broken' is for. :P

Yeah, last resort to before writing off as 'broken', is, it can be resurrected via JTag alright so it would not be permanently broken, but then again, if JTag fails, then yeah its broken :P

[Guest ThrashMan]

Hmmm, you're right in one way... At the other hand, I suggest maybe there should be a 'smart' clean-up done to the stickies. Some are really out-dated to say the least.... and maybe the links to files should get a sort of 'have-you-read-and-understood-the-thread'-lock.

:D

True....we have limited moderation and maintenance.

[Guest hedgepigdaniel]

I don't think the term is such a bad thing.

The term is no longer an accurate analogy, because modern phone's don't look very much like bricks at all.

Here is a picture of a brick: and here is a picture of a phone:

The point of the term is that the phone has become no more useful than a brick, as an unbootable phone is. I think that calling a phone that wont boot into android properly bricked is reasonable usage. As more knowledgeable people know, its impossible to draw a line between repairable and unrepairable. If an android phone won't boot android, I think we can safely say it cannot not fulfil its purpose.

I don't think of my phone as being bricked when I flash the wrong ROM, because I know how to fix it, but to someone who doesn't know how to fix it, it is bricked.

[Guest hedgepigdaniel]

THE EXCESSIVE USE OF CAPITALS HOWEVER IS EXTREMELY RUDE NOMATTTER HOW IMPORTANT YOU THINK YOUR PROBLEM IS.

More importantly, some noobs need to get it into their heads that when they ask for help on a forum they are asking for a favour. A minority of them don't seem to understand that.

[Guest hedgepigdaniel]

Hmmm, you're right in one way... At the other hand, I suggest maybe there should be a 'smart' clean-up done to the stickies. Some are really out-dated to say the least.... and maybe the links to files should get a sort of 'have-you-read-and-understood-the-thread'-lock.

:D

Yes, and there is no reason at all why there needs to be more than one sticky thread about how to post, who to message, and what vocabulary to use. Fibblesan has made two separate ones for some reason, and now we need a third?

Also telling people that their phone's predicament should be hailed by a different name is not likely to make them act any more intelligently. Calling it bricked doesn't mean people think it can't be fixed, otherwise why would they post threads about it?

[Guest unrandomsam]

If it has download mode its not bricked.

Funny is nearly all of the recent brick threads could be sorted with putting both a gen1 and a gen2 tpt into /sdcard/image

(I have started to ignore them - Not seen a thread needing a real unbrick (jtag boot repair) yet).

[Guest unrandomsam]

I don't even like the term 'bricked' for something that is actually completely and permanently broken. That's what the word 'broken' is for. :P

Bricked means the software is screwed to the point where it cannot be recovered by software means. (i.e only jtag).

Broken could be anything.