Guest tillaz Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 is the cpu not linked to the low price tho? cant expect to much for a budget smartphone. as long as comunities like this are around to cook new roms and keep it fresh i'm not to fussed about it. i wouldnt even own a blade if it wasnt for this forum :) (and the naggy friend who got me hooked lol) ARMv7 is relativity old they's days so not really... < but its very good & much better than ARMv6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Navie Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 No one has mentioned the cover, surely if the finish is better than the Skate then its a positive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest raverrr Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 No one has mentioned the cover, surely if the finish is better than the Skate then its a positive? yes i have a friend with dust under his screen after only 3 days of use lol. but that doesnt bother me. if i was to get skate i would reseal around the screen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Navie Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 ARMv7 is relativity old they's days so not really... < but its very good & much better than ARMv6 What's the difference between both of these and why bother? I thought the speed is all that mattered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest painkiller_93 Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 What's the difference between both of these and why bother? I thought the speed is all that mattered? differences are mainly that armv7 supports flash and some games/apps require armv7 and don't run on armv6 devices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tilal6991 Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 differences are mainly that armv7 supports flash and some games/apps require armv7 and don't run on armv6 devices Flash is dead. And anyway there is a perfectly working Flash for arm6. I concede to games point but arm6 is still good for now. But it will be out of date by the time I buy another phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TouchyAndalou Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 (edited) The Skate is a great phone for the price, and I'd definitely recommend it. At first I shared some of the doubts that other OSF owners on here have raised (armv6, lack of flash support, only 800mhz) which put me off buying the phone for awhile, but I haven't - and most users shouldn't - find these to be too much of an issue. It's a speedy enough phone, with smooth scrolling and minimal to no lag. Straight out of the box with all the orange crap installed, it's still zippier and smoother than the OSF on the best new roms. The screen is really excellent and far better than you'd expect at this price. Colours are crisp and the sound of the device is also good, and again, much better than what you're used to on the OSF. As for the the San Fran 2, I was disappointed by the specs as I thought they'd be better than the Skate. I'm sure it'll be a decent upgrade coming from the Blade, but comparing it to the Skate and its huge 4.3 inch screen, I think I'd really struggle to go back to the size of the SF2. Additionally, it's not just the size of the screen that is different - the SF2 is 256k colours whereas the Skate is however many million. Not sure how much of a difference this makes in real world terms, but it's probably worth considering. The San Fran was my first android phone and I was happy with it, but I'm really glad I purchased the OMC now that it's unlocked. Edited November 12, 2011 by TouchyAndalou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 It seems to me that ZTE are just lazy,and instead of actually making an OSF2,they put the skate inside it :lol: As for skate vs osf/2,well there is no comparison.The skate/omc beats the blade in every aspect,except for community support.But its early days,the skate community has not grown at the rate of the blades one.Now we have unlock,and a very good bunch of guys on here,it is certain that the skate will now shine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tillaz Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 (edited) What's the difference between both of these and why bother? I thought the speed is all that mattered? armv7 has more potential next phone i get will be quad core tegra 3, around x mas time or new year Edited November 12, 2011 by tillaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest D3abL3 Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 (edited) Skate has the 4.3" screen / Blade and Blade 2 have 3.5" screen Skate has 16M colors / Blade and Blade 2 have 256k colors Skate and Blade 2 has flash LED / Blade doesn't Skate and Blade 2 have a 800 Mhz ARMv6 CPU(both probably MSM7227-T) & Adreno 200 / Blade has 600 Mhz ARM 11(v6) & Adreno 200 Skate and Blade 2 ships with Android 2.3 / Blade ships with Android 2.1(2.2 upgradable) Blade 2 has frontal camera / Skate and Blade don't have Blade 2 and Blade has a AMOLED screen / Skate have a TFT screen Blade has a large community / Skate has a medium-large community growing even more / Blade 2 was not yet released but is being topic of discussion, tho many depreciate it Skate = 6 out of 8 Blade 2 = 5 out of 8 Blade = 2 out of 8 Some people may evaluate other relevant points, but I thought these would be the most considerable. Afaik the blade 2 has no flash led. Correct me if i'm wrong please. EDIT just added some more comparison points. These comparison points are from different sources referring the same, therefore I consider reliable. Edited November 12, 2011 by D3abL3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tilal6991 Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 Are you sure the blade 2 has a front camera and a oleg screen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tillaz Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 think blade 2 dose have led flash, from looking at the picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest D3abL3 Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 (edited) Are you sure the blade 2 has a front camera and a oleg screen? The front camera u can see here: http://st2.gsmarena....rancisco-II.jpg As for the AMOLED screen, this can be different in several countries like the Blade was. On some countries they were shipped with TFT and others with AMOLED. P.S.: http://www.gsmarena....sco_ii-4330.php EDIT Corrected flash LED mistake. Edited November 12, 2011 by D3abL3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tilal6991 Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 Yeah as tilaz said it does seem to have led flash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest D3abL3 Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 Yeah as tilaz said it does seem to have led flash Yes, I've already correct it. Comparison on Blade 2 vs Skate: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4330&idPhone2=3784 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tilal6991 Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 I'm still doubtful about the amoled. Gsmarena has been wrong before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tillaz Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 I'm still doubtful about the amoled. Gsmarena has been wrong before. nah, i would not bank on it either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest D3abL3 Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 I'm still doubtful about the amoled. Gsmarena has been wrong before. Did you read what I told you before? :lol: The screen with each device ships with can be different for different countries... I got you the example of Blade which was shipped with AMOLED in Portugal for example, and was shipped with TFT in India for example. For GB was shipped with the 2 screen versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fairlight2x Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 I bought my OMC last week as a upgrade to the OSF, mainly to have the larger screen. A lot of OSF owners dismiss the skate based on the specs, but if they were to actually use the phone they would see it as a worthy upgrade. As TouchyAndalou said, even with the stock Orange rom it is already as smooth as a Blade with CM7. I could only overclock my OSF to 691MHz (did have it at 710MHz in older versions of CM7 though) with the OMC I have it clocked at 1.01GHz which is fast enough for me. Besides the bigger screen, multitouch works much better on the OMC as it recognises 5 fingers simultaneously, and I can finally rotate maps in gmaps, it just didn't work well on the OSF. I love how easy it is to type in portrait with a 4.3" screen and when you have both phones side by side the blade seems so small and cramped, and I have small fingers! Now the unlock has arrived the OMC will surge in popularity, which hopefully means ICS will be ported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TouchyAndalou Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 Skate and Blade 2 have a 800 Mhz ARMv6 CPU(both probably MSM7227-T) & Adreno 200 / Blade has 600 Mhz ARM 11(v6) & Adreno 200 I thought the Skate was Adreno 205. Unless I'm mistaken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest D3abL3 Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 I think the bottom line is that the Blade can't be compared to Skate. But bettween Skate and Blade 2 I think Blade 2 still has the upper hand. Bigger screen, better screen image quality...Blade 2 has front camera and (can) have AMOLED, but still 256k colors... Depends on which each persons wants... front camera? Blade 2... Big and quality pictured screen? Skate Performance? Any :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest D3abL3 Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 I thought the Skate was Adreno 205. Unless I'm mistaken? Nope, it's a 200. Read: Adreno 200 (AMD Z430) inside the QSD8x50 (1 GHz) and MSM7x27 (600 MHz A11+L2 cache). It offers a programmable function pipeline and streaming textures with support for OpenGL ES 2.0, OpenGL ES 1.1, OpenVG 1.1, EGL 1.3, Direct3D Mobile, SVGT 1.2 and DirectDraw.Adreno 205 inside the QSD8x50A (1.3 GHz), MSM7x30 (800 MHz+L2 cache), MSM8x55 (1 GHz+L2 cache). Its improvements include Hardware-accelerated SVG and Adobe Flash and better shader-performance than the Adreno 200. It supports OpenGL ES 2.0, OpenGL ES 1.1, OpenVG 1.1, EGL 1.3, Direct3D Mobile, SVGT 1.2, Direct Draw and GDI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TouchyAndalou Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 Did you read what I told you before? :lol: The screen with each device ships with can be different for different countries... I got you the example of Blade which was shipped with AMOLED in Portugal for example, and was shipped with TFT in India for example. For GB was shipped with the 2 screen versions. That was when AMOLED was readily available, which it no longer is. I think Samsung are keeping all the AMOLED's for themselves now and it's very unlikely SF2 will ship with those in any region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tillaz Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 Did you read what I told you before? :lol: The screen with each device ships with can be different for different countries... I got you the example of Blade which was shipped with AMOLED in Portugal for example, and was shipped with TFT in India for example. For GB was shipped with the 2 screen versions. woz not the case with the skate though... who knows it still could be amoled, but i doubt it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TouchyAndalou Posted November 12, 2011 Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 Nope, it's a 200. Read: Adreno 200 (AMD Z430) inside the QSD8x50 (1 GHz) and MSM7x27 (600 MHz A11+L2 cache). It offers a programmable function pipeline and streaming textures with support for OpenGL ES 2.0, OpenGL ES 1.1, OpenVG 1.1, EGL 1.3, Direct3D Mobile, SVGT 1.2 and DirectDraw.Adreno 205 inside the QSD8x50A (1.3 GHz), MSM7x30 (800 MHz+L2 cache), MSM8x55 (1 GHz+L2 cache). Its improvements include Hardware-accelerated SVG and Adobe Flash and better shader-performance than the Adreno 200. It supports OpenGL ES 2.0, OpenGL ES 1.1, OpenVG 1.1, EGL 1.3, Direct3D Mobile, SVGT 1.2, Direct Draw and GDI. Ah ok. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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