Guest Shane Posted February 17, 2003 Report Posted February 17, 2003 I live in the UK and I am going to Jersey for a few days. I have spoken to Orange who have sent me a SIM update to enable roaming with my SPV. They tell me voice calls will coast 20p per min to receive and 40p per min to make. What a rip off. However they tell me that GPRS is not available in Jersey? Please can anyone tell me if all of the above are true, or is you can use GPRS would there be an extra charge for the transfer of data? Thanks Shane
Guest Firaas Posted February 17, 2003 Report Posted February 17, 2003 The calls are actually very very cheap - if you consider that for that 40p per minute, you're entitled to call anywhere in the world. It costs 80p a minute to call Pakistan from an Orange phone in Britain, and just 40p a minute from Jersey! Orange are correct in saying that you will not be able to use GPRS in Jersey. In the countries where GPRS is available, it costs £10 a megabyte - you can't use your £6 SPV pack for this. GPRS is the only thing that is expensive there - and that doesn't work, so I don't know what you're calling a rip off...
Guest mike-oh Posted February 17, 2003 Report Posted February 17, 2003 I think being charged for receiving calls is a bit harsh though! I was an holiday in portugal and some muppet dialed the wrong number and got me! At the time it cost me 50p (one 2 one) a minute to receive it!! Plus i had to get out of the pool and run through the villa dripping wet and nearly breaking my neck on the floor cos i'd told people to only ring me incase of an emergency.
Guest Firaas Posted February 17, 2003 Report Posted February 17, 2003 I think being charged for receiving calls is a bit harsh though! I was an holiday in portugal and some muppet dialed the wrong number and got me! At the time it cost me 50p (one 2 one) a minute to receive it!! Plus i had to get out of the pool and run through the villa dripping wet and nearly breaking my neck on the floor cos i'd told people to only ring me incase of an emergency. Heh, I called a couple of people accidentally when I forgot to lock the SPV's keypad in Pakistan - cost me £1.30 a minute, and they're charged at 60 second intervals!
Guest Chris b.a.r.f. Posted February 17, 2003 Report Posted February 17, 2003 I think being charged for receiving calls is a bit harsh though! That's just the way it is when roaming abroad. Look at it another way - why should the caller pay £x per minute just because you're not in the country? They don't necessarily know you're abroad so it's hardly fair to expect them to bear the cost of an international call. Someone's got to pay for the call transport over the foreign network; if you're travelling then it's only fair that you should cough up for incoming calls as well. If you don't like that you can always forward all calls to your voice mail and check it a few times a day from a normal phone.
Guest Firaas Posted February 17, 2003 Report Posted February 17, 2003 You pay for receiving voicemail too. I think I was quoted at £2.60 a minute or something daft while in Pakistan.
Guest Chris b.a.r.f. Posted February 17, 2003 Report Posted February 17, 2003 You pay for receiving voicemail too. I think I was quoted at £2.60 a minute or something daft while in Pakistan. That's why I said "check it a few times a day from a normal phone".....still not "cheap" but cheapER :wink:
Guest Firaas Posted February 17, 2003 Report Posted February 17, 2003 That's why I said "check it a few times a day from a normal phone".....still not "cheap" but cheapER :wink: It costs 40p a minute to receive voicemail while in Jersey. (JUST to receive, for someone to record a message, not to pickup) Why pay 40p a minute when it costs 20p a minute to receive a normal call? Add to that the cost of your international calls to check the voicemail, and you're on to an expensive phonebill.
Guest Shuflie Posted February 17, 2003 Report Posted February 17, 2003 I think that this one has come up before, and I'm still not sure I believe it, but apparently if a call gets put through to your voicemail while you're roaming you pay for two international calls, one from the call to your phone and the other from your phone to your voicemail service. If you actually check the message while roaming then that makes a total of three international calls, expensive business. If this is really true is there a way of turning off voicemail while roaming?
Guest Firaas Posted February 17, 2003 Report Posted February 17, 2003 You can ring up Orange and ask for it to be disabled.
Guest Chris b.a.r.f. Posted February 17, 2003 Report Posted February 17, 2003 But can't you just ring your voicemail (at normal network rates) from a normal phone with Orange UK? We can with Orange DK, costs nowt to call-forward to voicemail and standard charges (of course) to check the voicemail from a normal phone. Seems cheaper to me whichever way you look at it.
Guest Shuflie Posted February 17, 2003 Report Posted February 17, 2003 The whole point of this topic is that you are not at home (i.e. in home country) when the voicemail charges are made. You are in another country. Normally forwarding a call to voice mail doesn't cost you anything and, depending on the contract you are on, it is free or low cost to pick up messages. Roaming is another matter as the call comes through the orange network goes international to the operator you are roaming on to your phone then get routed back as an international call to orange again. Would be much simpler if it just dropped the international part of the call when it get sent to your voicemail but then not as much money is made by the operators.
Guest Firaas Posted February 17, 2003 Report Posted February 17, 2003 It's more to do with the choice you have. Voicemail is automatically set when you're unavailable, busy, or don't answer. Orange can't find out if this is the case, especially with the "don't answer" if you're abroad. 156 actually encourage you to disable voicemail before you leave.
Guest ICY Posted February 17, 2003 Report Posted February 17, 2003 Alternateively you just dont go abroad :)
Guest Firaas Posted February 17, 2003 Report Posted February 17, 2003 Alternateively you just dont go abroad :) And give me your tickets instead...
Guest Monolithix [MVP] Posted February 17, 2003 Report Posted February 17, 2003 Doesn't bread cost a fortune in Jersey and everything else is dirt cheap?
Guest Chris b.a.r.f. Posted February 17, 2003 Report Posted February 17, 2003 Would be much simpler if it just dropped the international part of the call when it get sent to your voicemail but then not as much money is made by the operators. Eh? But if you set unconditional call-forwarding before you leave the (home) country then there's no international calls involved whatsoever....Orange DK actually advise doing this while travelling, purely because Danish tele-law states that they must tell you that this is possible and sensible.
Guest Chris b.a.r.f. Posted February 17, 2003 Report Posted February 17, 2003 Doesn't bread cost a fortune in Jersey and everything else is dirt cheap? *lol* Naah - that's Denmark you're thinking about. Beer and fags are cheap, everything else costs a fortune :wink: Not trying to change the subject, are we? Oh well, EOD here.
Guest Chris b.a.r.f. Posted February 17, 2003 Report Posted February 17, 2003 Alternateively you just dont go abroad :) Does Jersey count as "abroad" when you're in the UK? Anyway, Firaas doesn't need the tickets, he's just been to Pakistan. I need 'em tho' :wink:
Guest Shuflie Posted February 17, 2003 Report Posted February 17, 2003 [Eh? But if you set unconditional call-forwarding before you leave the (home) country then there's no international calls involved whatsoever. Then again if you do this you loose the ability to decide whether to answer the phone or not.
Guest Chris b.a.r.f. Posted February 17, 2003 Report Posted February 17, 2003 Then again if you do this you loose the ability to decide whether to answer the phone or not. Sure, point taken. It's academic for me anyway, as I make damn sure I use the firm's mobile to make/receive calls when I'm abroad :twisted:
Guest spacemonkey Posted February 17, 2003 Report Posted February 17, 2003 SPV is great for roaming abroad... Avoid all those roaming costs by simply switching the radio off. It still works perfectly for playing games and looking like a poser...
Guest Matt Whitfield Posted February 17, 2003 Report Posted February 17, 2003 Avoid all those roaming costs by simply switching the radio off. It still works perfectly for playing games and looking like a poser... And taking pictures! I've just come back from a weekend in Paris and that's about all I used the SPV for...
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