Orange: San Diego is bootloader locked and staying that way

[Guest schkinx]

what ever you do don't try and flash anything as we all no Paul and I killed are phones by flashing a recovery

also we won't be able to flash the Intel logo because the size of the logo has changed

Dont worry Ricky , I want to use this one for at least a week lol :)

[Guest TimSmall]

I was wondering if anyone had looked into the ksplice and/or kexec route to getting a new kernel running?

http://lwn.net/Articles/15468/

http://lwn.net/Articles/280058/

Seeing as the San Diego is an x86 device, and can now be rooted... This would side-step the bootloader issue altogether.

Tim.

[Guest]

Rickywyatt is already looking into kexec :)

[Guest ayziaa]

Rickywyatt is already looking into kexec :)

ho!! so we could get cutom rom with this!

Edit : what I'm gonna say could be pretty stupid but I'm gonna say it anyway please correct me if i'm wrong. fibblesan said in an other thread that if we had unlocked bootloader, at this point we could get android 4.1 x86 code by intel, compile it and falsh it. I don't know if intel have a github or something, and if they made the 4.1 source code available but if they did, we could compile that with it's kernel and try to boot it with kexec right?

Edited November 28, 2012 by ayziaa

[Guest Simon O]

if the bootloader was unlocked then we can boot our own boot.img files with our own kernels. The kernel source that Motorola released for the RAZR i should work fine with some minor adjustments.

We the bootloader is locked so this might never happen.

[Guest ayziaa]

if the bootloader was unlocked then we can boot our own boot.img files with our own kernels. The kernel source that Motorola released for the RAZR i should work fine with some minor adjustments.

We the bootloader is locked so this might never happen.

Sorry to repeate myselft but with this kexec coundn't we boot a custom kernel without having to reboot completely the device, so without the bootloader checking the signatures? Because we can write over /system and we know that the bootloader doesn't check that, isn't a custom rom just a kernel and a /system? Or does each rom need a boot.img to boot which can be only launched by the bootloader (so kexec would be useless without unlocked bootloader)?

Trying to learn new stuff here! :D

[Guest]

kexec can load a new kernel and should be no problem with bootloader :unsure: but as far as I know it is proving difficult, rickywyatt has been trying and may still be.

Custom rom, yes basically, it is the system, kernel and, boot.img, and whatever tweaks mods are added to those three by the Dev.

Edited November 29, 2012 by Guest

[Guest ayziaa]

kexec can load a new kernel and should be no problem with bootloader :unsure: but as far as I know it is proving difficult, rickywyatt has been trying and may still be.

Custom rom, yes basically, it is the system, kernel and, boot.img, and whatever tweaks mods are added to those three by the Dev.

ok thanks. I just learn that in fact kernel is in /boot partition such as the bootloader is. So maybe boot.img contains this two I'm not sure. Anyway I hope ricky can figure out a way to do it!

[Guest mickael]

My old phone is a Motorola Defy and bootloader is locked .

I don't know about how work and if it's possible on this device but it's possible on Defy to launch custom ROM with 2nd init .

So do you know if it's possible to see that on San Diego ?

[Guest ayziaa]

My old phone is a Motorola Defy and bootloader is locked .

I don't know about how work and if it's possible on this device but it's possible on Defy to launch custom ROM with 2nd init .

So do you know if it's possible to see that on San Diego ?

I looked arround this 2nd init thing, it's pretty interesting, makes a locked bootloader device able to boot a custom rom. But the mod needs to be ported to the device to use it and I don't know what it takes to do that.

[Guest ayziaa]

I found this about 2nd init. It seems pretty powerful, make the use of cwm possible, pretty complicated too.

http://cvpcs.org/blog/2011-06-14/2nd-init._what_it_is_and_how_it_works

[Guest mickael]

Thanks for the link .

I see the post about Milestone : http://modmymobile.com/forums/563-motorola-milestone-roms/531599-open-recovery-v1-46-11-21-2010-a.html

An dthe link for the GITHUB : http://gitorious.org/droid/openrecovery

But it's not for me :D i don't understand that it's not my job and need that i buy a new brain :D

[Guest MrPuddington]

kexec can load a new kernel and should be no problem with bootloader :unsure: but as far as I know it is proving difficult, rickywyatt has been trying and may still be.

Custom rom, yes basically, it is the system, kernel and, boot.img, and whatever tweaks mods are added to those three by the Dev.

Sorry to warming up an old conversation, but I remember that the ZTE Blade got dual boot at some point. Since Android is based on Linux, you can specify any root device during the boot phase. Maybe that would a useful thing to do with kexec - start a new kernel and mount a new root device, possibly even on the SD card.

[Guest grizzlyflea]

Sorry to warming up an old conversation, but I remember that the ZTE Blade got dual boot at some point. Since Android is based on Linux, you can specify any root device during the boot phase. Maybe that would a useful thing to do with kexec - start a new kernel and mount a new root device, possibly even on the SD card.

I'm not too sure but I think its already been tried

[Guest demoded]

Here is Megafon Mint ICS firmware, taken from russian forum http://db.tt/3CfJkquV

[Guest shootomanUK]

Here is Megafon Mint ICS firmware, taken from russian forum http://db.tt/3CfJkquV

thanks my AZ210A turned into an X900 and is now a SP-A20i lol

the rom works great, wonder if ricky could ad it to his AIO tool ?

it feels way faster than both the others and that is even running the megashell app, without that maybe even faster !

[Guest BlueMoonRising]

thanks my AZ210A turned into an X900 and is now a SP-A20i lol

the rom works great, wonder if ricky could ad it to his AIO tool ?

it feels way faster than both the others and that is even running the megashell app, without that maybe even faster !

What does it give you over and above Xolo ICS?

[Guest shaper]

Just tryed this firmware, loads of apps in Russian as you would exspect, had to re-root

When I went back to xolo ics ...

[Guest shootomanUK]

What does it give you over and above Xolo ICS?

it just feels a bit quicker, has megashell running from startup, there are a few russian apps on it, not sure as to updates to the phones hardware etc.

Caution: DOES NOT ROOT ! (for me anyway)

best wait for Ricky,Flibblesan or Jikobutsu who have more experience than me to have a bash at it before anyone tries it out !

[Guest BlueMoonRising]

Is mega shell that 3D launcher? Looks pretty neat but a bit pricey perhaps at almost a tenner.

[Guest i am not a hacker]

I think you are taking about spb shell. Or possibly tsf shell

[Guest shootomanUK]

I think you are taking about spb shell. Or possibly tsf shell

no mate its megashell :

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.spb.shell.megafon&hl=en_GB

[Guest i am not a hacker]

no mate its megashell :

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.spb.shell.megafon&hl=en_GB

look at spb shell on the play store and then look at mega shell. Mega shell literally copied the entire design.

[Guest shootomanUK]

look at spb shell on the play store and then look at mega shell. Mega shell literally copied the entire design.

oh yeah its the same, when searching google it does say originally made by spb software, might be a sister company megalabs ?

quote:"For the Russian market applications installed on the phone and megaphone MegaShell - customizable 3D Shell ^{[ clarify ],} originally developed by SPB Software (absorbed in 2011 " by Yandex "), optimized to run on Intel Atom"

but whats the point in paying £10 for spb shell, when megashel is free lol

Edited February 17, 2013 by shootomanUK

[Guest i am not a hacker]

Megashell looks worse and anyway, they are both pretty bad as far as productivity is concerned. It's only good for looks and 'showing off'