Guest Monolithix [MVP] Posted April 8, 2003 Report Posted April 8, 2003 Now comes up as the first hit (over handango!) when you search for "SPV software". So if you're feeling lucky, you get my site! Just thought i'd mention that :lol:
Guest Matt Whitfield Posted April 8, 2003 Report Posted April 8, 2003 Heh, nice one Monolithix. My site WapTV Development UK comes out 1st and 2nd in Google if you search for "waptv" (and a load more times further down), despite Sky owning the WapTV browser technology... Mind you, my site was there first and I set up their site and forums afterwards, so I couldn't really let them have a higher search ranking than me now could I?? ;-) It surprising how easy it is to get number 1 in Google if you know what you're doing... and without spending a single penny either! :-D
Guest Monolithix [MVP] Posted April 8, 2003 Report Posted April 8, 2003 Yep, i'd not done anything to induce it, and until today i'd not appeared on any saerch engines (came up on hotmbot last week). Still amazed it comes over handango :lol:
Guest casper508 Posted April 8, 2003 Report Posted April 8, 2003 Quite amazing ! Good one Mono :lol: ! Cas
Guest Matt Whitfield Posted April 8, 2003 Report Posted April 8, 2003 The best way to do it is to add yourself into the correct category of the Open Directory Project which Google (and other lesser search engines) use as part of their seed index. But it does takes a while for Google to reindex using the ODP... However, the other key thing is getting sites to link to you - that is the thing the Google's crawler cares about. Get linked to a lot and number 1 you shall be...
Guest midnight Posted April 8, 2003 Report Posted April 8, 2003 oooh, mine comes first if you type spv tweaks and the sites only been up 3 weeks :lol:
Guest Paul [MVP] Posted April 8, 2003 Report Posted April 8, 2003 It's very difficult to get Google to index phpBB sites properly :lol: P
Guest Matt Whitfield Posted April 8, 2003 Report Posted April 8, 2003 Paul, I think you need to chuck a non-phpBB index page back in... my site is entirely PHP, but the front part is all non-phpBB PHP with static content (I just use PHP for page templating) so Google will index the front part of my site no problem. And as I force login to view anything it wouldn't be able to index the phpBB bit anyway...
Guest Paul [MVP] Posted April 8, 2003 Report Posted April 8, 2003 There is a way to make Google spider the whole of the phpBB, including all the posts... awesome... i'm working on it :lol: P
Guest Monolithix [MVP] Posted April 8, 2003 Report Posted April 8, 2003 Cheers for the tips Matt. I have about a dozen regular referral sites now and that's probably what kicked it off. I should have a links page up by the end of tonight as well (thanks to NederSoren for putting it together :lol:)
Guest spacemonkey Posted April 8, 2003 Report Posted April 8, 2003 If you could get google doing internal site searching that'd be fantastic, much better than the current search thing :lol:
Guest Paul [MVP] Posted April 8, 2003 Report Posted April 8, 2003 It's next thing to do after time fix, a few tweaks to the NG sync, and the mobile version :lol: P
Guest Matt Whitfield Posted April 8, 2003 Report Posted April 8, 2003 I think you may be able to get "Google in a box", as with other search engines, where you may to use their search technology for your site... however just relying on Google to pick up new posts without integration wouldn't work as Google won't reindex that quickly... so it won't be a practical alterative to the phpBB search. The main domain reindexing is the slow/tricky bit. If you can get picked up by Google without going through the (slow) ODP method all the better, but I think once you've got your domain in you probably get crawled more often... but I still can't see it being fast enough for new posts, although posts are bound to get picked up after a while...
Guest Monolithix [MVP] Posted April 8, 2003 Report Posted April 8, 2003 Even so, most "regular" questions are the oldest and most covered, so presumably would be picked up...
Guest Matt Whitfield Posted April 8, 2003 Report Posted April 8, 2003 Yup, you are of course correct Monolithix. If Paul can get it to crawl phpBB it would be very useful... BTW, no probs Monolithix - once you know a few basic things about how the search engines work you can quickly get good results from them in terms of getting your site ranked (without spending money!). However, search engines will never actually tell you how they work (particularly the indexing and reindexing), you have to work that out for yourself... ;-)
Guest Firaas Posted April 8, 2003 Report Posted April 8, 2003 Pigeon ranking? :lol: That is so last year! Did they actually come up with anything for April Fools' this year?
Guest fraser Posted April 9, 2003 Report Posted April 9, 2003 It's amazing how popular Google is. Mono didn't even mention Google, he just said search, but we knew what site he was talking about. Both Yahoo and Microsoft have their sights set on getting their search engines to number one. Good luck, Google will hard to topple.
Guest Monolithix [MVP] Posted April 9, 2003 Report Posted April 9, 2003 (I did also throw in "if you're feeling lucky", sub-conciously tied with Google...) Google is a search engine, nothing more, nothing less. Thats why its so popular. MSN.com and yahoo.com both have huge messy "web portals" built around the search part, making it less obvious. The closest search site to Google's format is ask.co.uk, and that still tries to be clever (and its useless, really) Incedentally Yahoo uses Googles database anyway...heh. Until the other search sites realise Google have it cracked, and follow suit, google will always be the most popular...
Guest Will Posted April 9, 2003 Report Posted April 9, 2003 Google just works, Google does not spawn porn or advertising banners. Google is easy to type Google have 'googlebar' Google is paying me to say this. GooWilloooogle
Guest HelloDave Posted April 9, 2003 Report Posted April 9, 2003 I've gotta say Google's always my first choice of search engine - it goes with my principle of "function before form" or "just becuase you can, doesn't mean you should" - why should I wait 10 minutes for msn to load (seems like it on 56K! :lol:) when all I need is one text box? And it seems to pull up more results than most other engines - perfect! Even MSN saw fit to change the nice simple hotmail login page to a more compicated one with bits of their portal on it - when will they learn... ;)
Guest Richie M Posted April 9, 2003 Report Posted April 9, 2003 Dogpile is my search engine of choice :lol: but i guess thats just cos i'm lazy and like everything in one place :roll:
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