Guest Paul [MVP] Posted February 19, 2003 Report Posted February 19, 2003 I've been quoted in an online article in Business Week Online. Pretty fairly represents our views I think, altho that pesky Ben Charny didn't hyperlink to the site as I requested :) P
Guest neilg Posted February 19, 2003 Report Posted February 19, 2003 looked like a balanced article to me, and atleast things are moving in the right direction. Finally been accepted into the Orange Developers Program myself (got the email at least) so just waiting for all the rest of the info to come through.
Guest Paul [MVP] Posted February 19, 2003 Report Posted February 19, 2003 I haven't received anything at all yet! Not happy! Orange - are you there? :shock: P
Guest kingbing Posted February 19, 2003 Report Posted February 19, 2003 So, this Mobile2Market thing. Am I right in saying that it's still no good for freeware?
Guest Paul [MVP] Posted February 19, 2003 Report Posted February 19, 2003 Indeedy. There is a charge to be included in the Mobile2Market program. P
Guest spacemonkey Posted February 19, 2003 Report Posted February 19, 2003 Good stuff... the new program is still all about Orange keeping control though. It's sad. I can see why they want to because it's a revenue stream and also it protects the users from buggy software. But on the otherhand modern smartphones are converging on more powerful computing devices and this power means the range and complexity of software that can be provided for them is beyond the scope of what a company such as Orange could hope to control. Also, they test the software and make sure it's bug free before releasing it to consumers? The best way to test the software is to give it to consumers... putting it through some protracted expensive Orange testing scheme won't get rid of all the bugs and will just delay final product release. I think their estimate of 400 apps by July through Mobile2Market is probably a bit ambitious. Even with the phones fully unlocked we've only seen maybe 20 or so apps popping up in the last month (compared to less than 10 apps coming through official cetified channels). Additionally even if I wanted to put my apps through Mobile2Market to get them to users with a locked phone I LEGALLY CAN'T because GnuBoy is GPL software so I can't let it be packaged and sold. It's a step, but I think the telecoms companies will have to start realising that we are not talking about cellphones that you customise by loading ringtones and backgrounds any more, we're talking about a small computer.
Guest neilg Posted February 19, 2003 Report Posted February 19, 2003 well said, I will still be VERY interested to see what kind of security policy will be implemented on the P800 when O go to market.
Guest Myke Posted February 19, 2003 Report Posted February 19, 2003 they didnt link to the site, that sucks! damn journalists :|
Guest Firaas Posted February 19, 2003 Report Posted February 19, 2003 they didnt link to the site, that sucks! damn journalists :| It's that Charny guy again - can he NEVER write an article and be fair to all parties?!
Guest Matt Whitfield Posted February 19, 2003 Report Posted February 19, 2003 At least Paul got a couple of decent quotes published - you can never be quite sure what they're going to use...
Guest Monolithix [MVP] Posted February 19, 2003 Report Posted February 19, 2003 I notice there's no mention of costs.... And isn't mobile2market just _another_ method for existing developers to get their applications on the market? It doesn't seem to make the freeware/home developer (as pointed out by Paul) route any easier, for reasons such as those pointed out by Spacemonkey. Yes it's a step in the right direction and at last we have a balanced report. It will be interesting to see what Baltimore have to say when we next hear from them.
Guest Monolithix [MVP] Posted February 19, 2003 Report Posted February 19, 2003 I've done some more digging around. All M2M seems to be is the "official" Microsoft application signing medium (which, incedentally, MS calls "certifying", just to further confuse matters...), which costs money (through VeriTrust apparently). All this allows you to do is slap a "Designed for MS SmartPhone" logo on the packaging when you sell your app, you will _still_ have to get the .exe/.dll/.cab certified by Baltimore or, as it turns out, VeriSign, (presumably the "other" party Steve from Baltimore once reffered to :)), which again. cost's more money. To get the application signed (MS read: "certified") all you have to do is conform to the standards set out by MS (interestilng you aren't allowed an "Exit" menu option.), and show the app doesn't regulary hang the phone. So nothing new really, unless i'm missing something obvious. Presumably we'll have to wait on Baltimore's response for more information the the Freeware scheme... See here for a general overview of getting applications MS certified.
Guest spacemonkey Posted February 19, 2003 Report Posted February 19, 2003 Easy, replace the 'Exit' with 'Crash Quietly'.
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