Guest hecatae Posted July 27, 2014 Report Posted July 27, 2014 Specifications: Fiefox1.3 OS with 1.2GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon 200 MSM8210, Dual core processorSize: 126×64.7×10.7mmDisplay: 4.0”WVGA (480x800Pixel)Camera: 3 megapixel cameraNetwork: GSM 900/1800/1900 MHz | WCDMA 900/2100 MHzBattery: 1400 mAhMemory: 512MB LPDDR2/3 + 4GB eMMC | MicroSD (Up to 32GB)Other: GPS with AGPS, WiFi 802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth 4.0Can update to Android 4.4 OS. If you are not accustomed to using Firefox OS. £39.99 at Amazon UK http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00KIKDNWO/ £39.99 at Ebay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/351077440090 £54.99 from ZTE UK Ebay store boo http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171301269724
Guest t-bon3 Posted July 28, 2014 Report Posted July 28, 2014 Nice rip of my HUKD thread. :P Will get my hands on my new Open C next week, looking forward to trying out a new mobile OS after 5 years of Android :rolleyes:
Guest hecatae Posted July 28, 2014 Report Posted July 28, 2014 Nice rip of my HUKD thread. :P Will get my hands on my new Open C next week, looking forward to trying out a new mobile OS after 5 years of Android :rolleyes: :P :rolleyes: :P Mine arrives this week
Guest KonstaT Posted July 28, 2014 Report Posted July 28, 2014 None of these ship to Finland. :( Also the prices on the official ZTE UK and German ebay accounts seem to change every week. Last week it was £44.99 (now back to £54.99) on the official ZTE UK account. And a while ago you could get one from the German account without postages. I'm still yet to purchase mine. Bootloader status still concerns me. It's completely f*cked up if you really can't even flash a custom recovery image to the device's recovery partition without 'bricking' it. Always fastboot booting a recovery image is really not a proper option. I'm not even sure if 'unlocking' the bootloader is really necessary. It will provide a key combination to cold boot to bootloader though but booting to bootloader with the 'locked' bootloader should also be possible with 'adb reboot bootloader'. I wonder if converting this device into a Kis 3 will make any difference in this regard. There's also a similar windows flash tool available to flash Android firmware that is used to flash the unlocked/rooted Firefox OS. I opened a thread with all the available Kis 3 / Open C stock firmware. http://www.modaco.com/topic/373101-zte-kis-3-zte-open-c-stock-roms/
Guest t-bon3 Posted July 29, 2014 Report Posted July 29, 2014 Can Kis 3 android ROMS be flashed to the Open C directly? And vice versa? Asda has the Kis 3 (unlocked?) at £40 http://direct.asda.com/ZTE-Kis-III---Android-Phone/008742056,default,pd.html Fairly sure the description of a MSM7225A chipset is wrong.
Guest KonstaT Posted July 29, 2014 Report Posted July 29, 2014 Can Kis 3 android ROMS be flashed to the Open C directly? And vice versa? Asda has the Kis 3 (unlocked?) at £40 http://direct.asda.com/ZTE-Kis-III---Android-Phone/008742056,default,pd.html Fairly sure the description of a MSM7225A chipset is wrong. Open C and Kis 3 are the same device what comes to hardware. There's tools available to go back and forth between Firefox OS and Android. It still doesn't mean that you could directly flash any Open C firmware to a Kis 3 and vice versa. E.g. you still need to use matching stock recovery image to flash official ZTE update.zip's or repack them for a custom recovery. Everything should be possible if you know what you're doing. ;) Yeah, those specs are wrong. ZTE already had a device called Kis 3 previously (or maybe it was only a marketing name in some areas). I think those specs are for the older device, picture is right though. :P
Guest hecatae Posted July 30, 2014 Report Posted July 30, 2014 both of mine arrived today, ordered from oxford street on amazon
Guest KonstaT Posted July 31, 2014 Report Posted July 31, 2014 None of these ship to Finland. :( Also the prices on the official ZTE UK and German ebay accounts seem to change every week. Last week it was £44.99 (now back to £54.99) on the official ZTE UK account. And a while ago you could get one from the German account without postages. Now available for £39.99 also on the ZTE authorized ebay account with international shipping. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/eBay-exclusive-ZTE-OPEN-C-Latest-Firefox-OS-Dual-Core-3G-Unlocked-Smartphone-/171301269724?pt=UK_Mobile_Phones&hash=item27e259f0dc both of mine arrived today, ordered from oxford street on amazon Can you confirm that bootloader is inaccessible without unlocking the device? Can you fastboot flash a recovery image after unlocking the device?
Guest hecatae Posted July 31, 2014 Report Posted July 31, 2014 Now available for £39.99 also on the ZTE authorized ebay account with international shipping. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/eBay-exclusive-ZTE-OPEN-C-Latest-Firefox-OS-Dual-Core-3G-Unlocked-Smartphone-/171301269724?pt=UK_Mobile_Phones&hash=item27e259f0dc Can you confirm that bootloader is inaccessible without unlocking the device? Can you fastboot flash a recovery image after unlocking the device? philip@hecatae:~$ adb devices * daemon not running. starting it now on port 5037 * * daemon started successfully * List of devices attached 3a11bef device philip@hecatae:~$ adb reboot-bootloader philip@hecatae:~$ fastboot devices 3a11bef fastboot philip@hecatae:~$ fastboot oem unlock ... OKAY [ 0.004s] finished. total time: 0.005s philip@hecatae:~$ philip@hecatae:~/Downloads/Open_c_root/EU_Android+to+FFOS$ fastboot flash recovery recovery.img target reported max download size of 1073741824 bytes sending 'recovery' (8334 KB)... OKAY [ 0.334s] writing 'recovery'... OKAY [ 0.626s] finished. total time: 0.960s
Guest KonstaT Posted July 31, 2014 Report Posted July 31, 2014 Was that with the untouched 'locked' bootloader? Or why you needed to 'fastboot oem unlock'? Did you try flashing a custom recovery (there's a CWM image available at XDA)? I bought one today as well but it's going to take a week or two to arrive so I don't get to play yet. :P
Guest hecatae Posted July 31, 2014 Report Posted July 31, 2014 Was that with the untouched 'locked' bootloader? Or why you needed to 'fastboot oem unlock'? Did you try flashing a custom recovery (there's a CWM image available at XDA)? I bought one today as well but it's going to take a week or two to arrive so I don't get to play yet. :P that was with the ul.to zte kis 3 firmware which is an interesting find, as the ffos recovery image does not allow me to fastboot flash or fastboot oem unlock. so yes out of the box the bootloader is locked, but that 4.4.2 firmware allows you to unlock the bootloader with fastboot oem unlock, no root required.
Guest KonstaT Posted August 11, 2014 Report Posted August 11, 2014 that was with the ul.to zte kis 3 firmware which is an interesting find, as the ffos recovery image does not allow me to fastboot flash or fastboot oem unlock. so yes out of the box the bootloader is locked, but that 4.4.2 firmware allows you to unlock the bootloader with fastboot oem unlock, no root required. Are you absolutely sure about that? My device is completely unlocked out-of-the-box. No need to use any windows flashers or 'fastboot oem unlock'. Just booted with power down pressed to bootloader and fastboot flashed my CWM build to the recovery partition. Edit. Can you post output of following commands in shell after using the Windows flasher to convert to Kis 3? cat /proc/partitions ls -l /dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name I tried flashing GEN_EU_P821E10V1.0.0B10 update after EU_FFOS+to+Android and it didn't fit the /system partition. Luckily I had CWM installed and only fastboot booted the stock recovery image. Otherwise I'd probably already have a brick. :P
Guest hecatae Posted August 11, 2014 Report Posted August 11, 2014 Are you absolutely sure about that? My device is completely unlocked out-of-the-box. No need to use any windows flashers or 'fastboot oem unlock'. Just booted with power down pressed to bootloader and fastboot flashed my CWM build to the recovery partition. Edit. Can you post output of following commands in shell after using the Windows flasher to convert to Kis 3?cat /proc/partitions ls -l /dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-nameI tried flashing GEN_EU_P821E10V1.0.0B10 update after EU_FFOS+to+Android and it didn't fit the /system partition. Luckily I had CWM installed and only fastboot booted the stock recovery image. Otherwise I'd probably already have a brick. :PI can downgrade from GEN_EU to FFOS to EU_FFOS+to+Android but not the other wayshell@ZTE-P821E10:/ $ cat /proc/partitions major minor #blocks name 253 0 196608 zram0 179 0 3817472 mmcblk0 179 1 65536 mmcblk0p1 179 2 512 mmcblk0p2 179 3 128 mmcblk0p3 179 4 32 mmcblk0p4 179 5 512 mmcblk0p5 179 6 500 mmcblk0p6 179 7 10240 mmcblk0p7 179 8 500 mmcblk0p8 179 9 1024 mmcblk0p9 179 10 1536 mmcblk0p10 179 11 1536 mmcblk0p11 179 12 917504 mmcblk0p12 179 13 1900527 mmcblk0p13 179 14 32768 mmcblk0p14 179 15 262144 mmcblk0p15 179 16 10240 mmcblk0p16 179 17 1024 mmcblk0p17 179 18 1536 mmcblk0p18 179 19 1 mmcblk0p19 179 20 8 mmcblk0p20 179 21 4 mmcblk0p21 179 22 10240 mmcblk0p22 179 23 6127 mmcblk0p23 179 32 4096 mmcblk0rpmb 179 64 1927168 mmcblk1 179 65 1926144 mmcblk1p1 shell@ZTE-P821E10:/ $ ls -l /dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-01-11 19:04 DDR -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p4 lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-01-11 19:04 aboot -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p5 lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-01-11 19:04 boot -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p7 lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-01-11 19:04 cache -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p15 lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-01-11 19:04 factory -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p21 lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-01-11 19:04 fsc -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p19 lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-01-11 19:04 fsg -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p18 lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-01-11 19:04 misc -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p17 lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-01-11 19:04 modem -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-01-11 19:04 modemst1 -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p10 lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-01-11 19:04 modemst2 -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p11 lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-01-11 19:04 pad -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p9 lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-01-11 19:04 persist -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p14 lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-01-11 19:04 recovery -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p16 lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-01-11 19:04 rpm -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p6 lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-01-11 19:04 safeKeybox -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p23 lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-01-11 19:04 sbl1 -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p2 lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-01-11 19:04 sdi -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p3 lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-01-11 19:04 splash -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p22 lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-01-11 19:04 ssd -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p20 lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-01-11 19:04 system -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p12 lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-01-11 19:04 tz -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p8 lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-01-11 19:04 userdata -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p13
Guest KonstaT Posted August 11, 2014 Report Posted August 11, 2014 I can downgrade from GEN_EU to FFOS to EU_FFOS+to+Android but not the other way Thanks, partition layout is completely different than on Firefox OS. /system is slightly larger, /data is a lot larger and they've dropped the separate partition for internal sdcard (using emulated sdcard on /data/media). Not sure what would be the best way forward. :/ I'll probably end up dropping the internal sdcard all together again. I also liked the ability to cold boot to bootloader with volume down pressed with Firefox OS, that's now gone with Android. Ideal would be probably some combination from both firmwares.
Guest hecatae Posted August 11, 2014 Report Posted August 11, 2014 Thanks, partition layout is completely different than on Firefox OS. /system is slightly larger, /data is a lot larger and they've dropped the separate partition for internal sdcard (using emulated sdcard on /data/media). Not sure what would be the best way forward. :/ I'll probably end up dropping the internal sdcard all together again. I also liked the ability to cold boot to bootloader with volume down pressed with Firefox OS, that's now gone with Android. Ideal would be probably some combination from both firmwares.This is the 4.2 Virgin UK Rom, my automatic brightness works.
Guest KonstaT Posted August 12, 2014 Report Posted August 12, 2014 This is the 4.2 Virgin UK Rom, my automatic brightness works. I highly doubt that. And if you had ALS, you'd also have proximity. Screenshot of CPU-Z sensors screen or no way I'm going to believe you. :P Where is this sensor physically located? I can only see one hole on the front of my device and that's where notification LED is.
Guest hecatae Posted August 12, 2014 Report Posted August 12, 2014 I highly doubt that. And if you had ALS, you'd also have proximity. Screenshot of CPU-Z sensors screen or no way I'm going to believe you. :P Where is this sensor physically located? I can only see one hole on the front of my device and that's where notification LED is.
Guest KonstaT Posted August 12, 2014 Report Posted August 12, 2014 But you don't get any reading from those sensors so they don't actually work either? At least not on my device! Virgin UK kernel has TAOS sensor driver built in and using sensor HAL from that build on my CM11 gets it recognized. Maybe some Kis 3 variant has that sensor hardware but not Open C. Where is the sensor supposed to be located? Can you see it?
Guest hecatae Posted August 12, 2014 Report Posted August 12, 2014 But you don't get any reading from those sensors so they don't actually work either? At least not on my device! Virgin UK kernel has TAOS sensor driver built in and using sensor HAL from that build on my CM11 gets it recognized. Maybe some Kis 3 variant has that sensor hardware but not Open C. Where is the sensor supposed to be located? Can you see it? notification on is top left, proximity light sensor is top right, taken from here http://store.virginmedia.com/virgin-media-mobile/pay-as-you-go-phones/zte-kis-iii/zte-kis-iii-tariffs.html if I hold my thunmb over it's rough location i do see some gradual dimming, though that may be the notification bar trying to respond
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