Guest HelloDave Posted February 24, 2003 Report Posted February 24, 2003 I'm a bit confused from all the other posts as everyone seems to be saying different things. Can you still backup anything with the new bootloader, ie even just IPSM? Is it still possible to load a whole image from an SD card (ie Bootloader, WinCE, GSM, IPSM) - I can't believe the new bootloader wouldn't let you do that otherwise how can M$ flash new SPVs?! The amount of times my SPV has died I find backing up my IPSM very useful, and I really want to be able to keep doing it after the update! Anyone tried this yet? (Florin? :))
Guest cyrilthefish Posted February 24, 2003 Report Posted February 24, 2003 I noticed that too! :) i wonder if you can overwrite the bootloader with the old one? the new bootloader allows you to load stuff off a MMC/SD card, just not backup things
Guest cyrilthefish Posted February 24, 2003 Report Posted February 24, 2003 ah pants, it won't let me restore actually :) i'm downloading my complete backup onto my MMC card, i wonder if it'll let me load that...
Guest madu Posted February 24, 2003 Report Posted February 24, 2003 The full backup is restored kinda straight from the card even before entering the bootloader - so that will work.. Same problem though. Even posted a new topic on thet > will delete now :)
Guest stevesco Posted February 24, 2003 Report Posted February 24, 2003 http://www.smartphone.fr.fm/ visit here, then click on the link on the left "HYPER TERMINAL" here u can access the QFS and do the backups !! 8)
Guest neilg Posted February 25, 2003 Report Posted February 25, 2003 thanks for the link, top stuff needed that
Guest DJHope Posted February 25, 2003 Report Posted February 25, 2003 Erm...interesting stuff! Looks like they tried (and failed) to stop us making backups :)
Guest Richie M Posted February 25, 2003 Report Posted February 25, 2003 http://www.smartphone.fr.fm/ visit here, then click on the link on the left "HYPER TERMINAL" here u can access the QFS and do the backups !! 8) use this instead Translated :)
Guest Richie M Posted February 25, 2003 Report Posted February 25, 2003 :) I can't get this to work, anyone else? PC running Win2000 Pro. Type usbterm at the command prompt, then get a flashing cursor on the next line, type qfs?, then again i just get a flashing cursor on the next line! Am i missing something? Or just being stupid?
Guest Richie M Posted February 25, 2003 Report Posted February 25, 2003 Doh, sorted - didn't see the first line where it says leave the SPV on the Canary MV screen :)
Guest RMWD Posted February 25, 2003 Report Posted February 25, 2003 use this instead Translated :) Thanx but can anyone do a real transalation?
Guest Richie M Posted February 25, 2003 Report Posted February 25, 2003 WARNING - I've just fried my phone with this! DO NOT LEAVE THE CARD IN THE PHONE WHILE DOING A RESET (for de-cert). I left it in and as soon as you press Action it tried to download the Bootloader off the SD and failed :)
Guest Richie M Posted February 25, 2003 Report Posted February 25, 2003 :) Sorted! This method of backup DOES work 8) My problem was; i'd backed everything up (PBOOT CE GSM & ISPM), when i hit action it started to download/restore all of them (no option to restore individually) but once it said pboot success i reset the phone :roll: and all i got was the Orange sunset screen :shock: after lots of swearing i decided to try again and just left it and eventually restored all of them (15 mins), rebooted and now it's fine ;) At least i know my backup works, just gotta try the full de-cert now :wink:
Guest retallick Posted February 25, 2003 Report Posted February 25, 2003 I used USBTerm to restore the old bootloader from an SD. Then I backed up everything using the usual method, ie. SAVE ALL on the bootloader menu on the phone. Then I tested it. I cleared the phone and restored it ALL, and everything is there updated, new aps and a usefull bootloader. :)
Guest DJHope Posted February 25, 2003 Report Posted February 25, 2003 How long does it spend on "waiting for check" mines been their for 15mins, is that normal, seems excessive, it never used todo this using the diag screen! Whats up ? Anyone else had a hang on "waiting for check"? (this is only when doing an IPSM or CE or GSM+CE backup) i think i might go back to the old bootloader if its this much of an effort to backup! DJ Hope
Guest madu Posted February 25, 2003 Report Posted February 25, 2003 DJ Hope, I am having the same thing - kinda thought it was something wrong (still do). Was just about to post about this. Thought of reloading DK Canary 0.93/92 just as you. Does it eventually work fine then>? And I did not notice anything like SAVE ALL - so I assume one must be done after the other.. Is that correct?
Guest DJHope Posted February 25, 2003 Report Posted February 25, 2003 nah mate havnt got it to work..........DJ Hope
Guest madu Posted February 25, 2003 Report Posted February 25, 2003 neither have I. No luck whatsoever - wited for 30min+ and still 'waiting for check..' BTW - at start of 'qfs 2' it gave an error. See for yourself how it was (first perform qfs 0 then 2): Cmd 7>> qfs 0 qfs 0 init Waiting for card insert......... Card Info=0420 Card Info=0630 WaitRspEnd!!! ERROR [A880081E]=000000C0 Err: CMD55 ret=FFFFFFF9 SD card foundCard Insert Success, Now On Stand-by State. Detected one card ===== Disk info ===== This disk has 494080 blocks, each block has 512 bytes Disk size 241 Mb Initialize disk data struct finish rm: Name=PBOOT Error, file PBOOT is not exist backup: Name=PBOOT Start=00000000 Size=00020000 Remain bytes 00020000 Â from 00000000 Remain bytes 00000000 Â from 00020000 Waiting for check CloseFile 8C2749A0 Total Backup time= 1 seconds Backup success Cmd 8>> qfs 2 qfs 2 init Waiting for card insert......... Card Info=0420 Card Info=0630 WaitRspEnd!!! ERROR [A880081E]=000000C0 Err: CMD55 ret=FFFFFFF9 SD card foundCard Insert Success, Now On Stand-by State. Detected one card ===== Disk info ===== This disk has 494080 blocks, each block has 512 bytes Disk size 241 Mb Initialize disk data struct finish rm: Name=WINCE Error, file WINCE is not exist backup: Name=WINCE Start=00040000 Size=00BC0000 Remain bytes 00BC0000 Â from 00040000 Remain bytes 00BA0000 Â from 00060000 Remain bytes....................... .......................................... Waiting for check
Guest DJHope Posted February 25, 2003 Report Posted February 25, 2003 Intersting thing is it seems to have written correctly, just not checked it because it comes up with "Wince, press any key to download" when you restart with the card in!
Guest madu Posted February 25, 2003 Report Posted February 25, 2003 hmmm. but how would you know when it has finished? And you would not be sure *sure* that it has all backed up correctly and s*** - thus making it a bit useless at this stage.. I hope the guys come up with an update to this - else I'm back to prev. bootloader :)
Guest retallick Posted February 25, 2003 Report Posted February 25, 2003 I'm probably not being very helpful, but I didn't use USB Term for any saves, just to restore the old bootloader. Everything worked great.
Guest Richie M Posted February 26, 2003 Report Posted February 26, 2003 Guys, for some reason on some qfs commands it does just hang on "waiting for check", i think i left it for 15 mins and then killed it, backup worked fine! I dunno what the errors are but i had some but the backup did work! Confusing.
Guest madu Posted February 26, 2003 Report Posted February 26, 2003 A GUI version of this thing /with updated code/ would be v nice... Anyone up for doing that? We would need to find the author first I guess
Guest DJHope Posted February 26, 2003 Report Posted February 26, 2003 Arisme wrote it mate! i bet the serial cable does a backup properly.....
Guest Thurstan Posted February 26, 2003 Report Posted February 26, 2003 What does this mean? That the backups we made to SD card can't be re-loaded after the update? Sorry for being dim....
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