Guest Pagemakers Posted February 25, 2003 Report Posted February 25, 2003 I have a standard upgraded UK phone. So far I have resisted de-certing my phone. I have a few question however. 1 - Are there many titles available for de-certed phones. I only see a handful. 2 - Can an updated phone still be de-certed. I have heard the files are different. 3 - If done correctly does de-certing destabilise my phone? 4 - Do any of the uncertified programs crash and hard reset the phone? 5 - Any other issues I should know about?
Guest crimminsky Posted February 25, 2003 Report Posted February 25, 2003 just do it, it's the best hing I've done with this phone :) 1. plenty of titles (doom, doom doom!!!) and many more to come 2. not sure but I think it can 3. nope 4. nope 5. if you don't de cert you'll never know your phones full potential
Guest MECX Posted February 25, 2003 Report Posted February 25, 2003 1) yes lots of free titles are available and many more under development. 2) yes do a search this has been covered 3) didnt with mine and havent heard of it making anybodys phone any worse 4)not that i have heard---dont think a program crash will hard reset the phone--all the programs ive used never crash the phone. 5) just do it--you will loose all your text messages but everything else can be backed up. your not messing with the main rom anyway so if it does go balls up all you have to do is hardreset and your back where you came from. your more likly to screw your phone doing the orange update as if this goes wrong you cant just hard reset. hope this helps but most of these topics have been covered before--i know its hard when there spread all over.
Guest ajb3000 Posted February 25, 2003 Report Posted February 25, 2003 it's the best thing i've ever done to my phone!!
Guest hellboundpeanut Posted February 25, 2003 Report Posted February 25, 2003 Hey, i've just got the spv brand spanking out of a box - boy look at the shinnneeeyyy . ... but anyways, is there any order i should de-cert,unlock and update - or doesnt it matter at all ? .. chars. Tomathy
Guest ajb3000 Posted February 25, 2003 Report Posted February 25, 2003 it doesn't really matter, personally I would update first de-cert, unlock
Guest neilfenstein Posted February 25, 2003 Report Posted February 25, 2003 I like you was uncertain for a long time. I decertified my fone when i heard the update was coming out. I felt i had nothing to lose (plus i was off work and had lots of spare time). 1) there are not a great deal of titles at the mo, however the fone has only been out four months. The general concensus (after adopting the decert.) seems to be for getting good quality apps, games, emulators etc out there in the public domain. My favourite is the DivX player it is excellent FULL SCREEN smooth running media player and the file size isnt bad either. There is a task manager helps keep the fone smooth running as you can kill apps and processes easily! 2) Ive seen on this site that it is still possible if not abit more tricky(search the threads). 3) I decerted before the update. After updating mine is excellent, fast, stable in comparison to out of the box! To be honest i wish i had done it sooner. Before the update the process was far easier than people made out. It seemed like i had loads of time and once you have backed up to orange and saved your profiles sounds etc, you cant lose just keep going thru the process untill it works. 4) Not long enough experience im afraid. I think the hard reset issue is nothing to do with decert as my friend was messing with my fone got it stuck in IAAlbum and after pulling the battery it reset all speed up things and home screen sounds etc. (who knows!?!). Not yet tho and anyway PC's are allways crashing its microsofts advanced operating systems having hiccups! LOL! 5) dont really think so, apart from once you have colour gameboy and NES and doom you wonder why you started the thread!!! LOL good luck! :)
Guest Pagemakers Posted February 25, 2003 Report Posted February 25, 2003 Hmm. I want to give it a go but some many people are saying different things about how to do it. I see the bootloader menu does not give the option to backup since the upgrade and there appears to be a slightly different way to de-cert after the update. Confusion, confusion, confusion!
Guest MECX Posted February 25, 2003 Report Posted February 25, 2003 i would de cert then update for sure ts meant to be a bit of a pain to de cert after update
Guest Pagemakers Posted February 25, 2003 Report Posted February 25, 2003 Too late, already updated yesterday
Guest Monolithix [MVP] Posted February 25, 2003 Report Posted February 25, 2003 I have a standard upgraded UK phone. So far I have resisted de-certing my phone. I have a few question however. 1 - Are there many titles available for de-certed phones. Â I only see a handful.There are plenty, see www.monolithix.org/SPV_software for the current freeware applications available. 2 - Can an updated phone still be de-certed. Â I have heard the files are different. Yes it can be, you only edit one file instead of 2. If your worried about doing it post update do it first, as the UK update will not affect it (99% of the time). 3 - If done correctly does de-certing destabilise my phone?Not in any way whatsoever. 4 - Do any of the uncertified programs crash and hard reset the phone? Again, (99%) of the time, no. Bear in mind though that all early versions of software on any platform can be unstable, i've had early versions crash my phone but never hard reset. 5 - Any other issues I should know about? Only that some users do have difficulties, however the functionality of the freeware available is far greater than any of the [games ;p] available from handango or hexatco....
Guest Pagemakers Posted February 25, 2003 Report Posted February 25, 2003 I updated yesterday and check for correct file numbers etc yet I still have mxipcold_oem_10.provxml and mxip_oem_10.provxml Hmm
Guest MisterCurly Posted February 25, 2003 Report Posted February 25, 2003 Yes you should still have both of those files, the difference is to de-cert after the update you only need to alter "mxip_oem_10.provxml" file
Guest MisterCurly Posted February 25, 2003 Report Posted February 25, 2003 Yes you should still have both of those files, the difference is to de-cert after the update you only need to alter "mxip_oem_10.provxml" file
Guest MisterCurly Posted February 25, 2003 Report Posted February 25, 2003 Sorry about that, dont know how to delete the post :oops:
Guest MisterCurly Posted February 25, 2003 Report Posted February 25, 2003 Yes you should still have both of those files, the difference is to de-cert after the update you only need to alter "mxip_oem_10.provxml" file
Guest MisterCurly Posted February 25, 2003 Report Posted February 25, 2003 Yes you should still have both of those files, the difference is to de-cert after the update you only need to alter "mxip_oem_10.provxml" file
Guest Pagemakers Posted February 25, 2003 Report Posted February 25, 2003 Well I am trying and trying and no joy! Bloody brilliant - I keep copying the mxip_oem_10.provxml file across and then when I try to install an un-certed app and it just says no.
Guest Pagemakers Posted February 25, 2003 Report Posted February 25, 2003 God, I've done it. Wow. Thanks guys!
Guest Monolithix [MVP] Posted February 25, 2003 Report Posted February 25, 2003 The black cross button next to the "edit" button in the top right cornser of the post...
Guest 15 yr old Posted February 26, 2003 Report Posted February 26, 2003 sorry, im new. whats this update u lot are talking about????
Guest Pagemakers Posted February 26, 2003 Report Posted February 26, 2003 Check the main area of this board. You can't miss it.
Guest ssalmon Posted February 27, 2003 Report Posted February 27, 2003 but i am so wanting to decert my phone but because I have applied the UK update I am totally baffled by needing to do a backup first. I am totally worried about screwing the phone up. Can anybody confirm if its safe to actually decert without doing a backup? I.e if it goes pearshaped, can I do somekind of reset to put me back to a clean state? Regards Steve
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