MMS Settings without GPRS????

[Guest]

I do ont have the Gprs settings available on my SPV simply because i cant afford the £6 a month for thi little amunt of time i will use it. I have searched various posts that mention MMS settings but cant seem to find ones that work without GPRS.

Does anyone know if it is possible to Send MMS withough GPRS and if so, could you tell me the settings please.

P.S Am i the only person on here who dosent use GPRS????? :? :?:

[Guest Big Ron - No Longer a Mem]

MMS does NOT require GPRS to be "ENABLED" (but see below!) because MMS is treated as something other than "email with attachments" - mainly for billing purposes. For it to work, you just need to have "MMS" flagged on your a/c at Orange (just call 150 and ask. It's free, unless you use it!) That "flag" identifies your phone as MMS capable - if it's NOT there, then you won't be able to send OR receive MMS messages, as the "exchange" will identify your phone as NOT MMS-capable., and will deal with messages appropriately. It SHOULD have been flagged as "capable" when the phone was registered.... but many weren't. The a/c's software used to throw out a "this phone is not MMS capable!" error message... which the techie then had to over-ride. Back in the early days, I'm sure that a few reggie operators took the error message as accurate. Flagging the a/c with "MMS" (or "MMM" as it shows up on the computer) automatically gives limited access to GPRS- restricted to MMS messaging ONLY, and billed accordingly

O's new tariffs have a "Pay As You Use" option. Bottom line, when you sign up for a GPRS a/c with Orange it's installed in two parts - one (called "GPRS Core")gives you access at the "exchange", the other is for billing purposes. Back when the SPV was new, there was a sudden unprecedented rush for GPRS access (previously a "specialist item") the registration people screwed up, and people wound up with the billing part, but not the access part. 156 were deluged with complaints about non-working phones (problems rapidly fixed with a quick a/c modification!) SOME people got the access without the billing section - the SPV promo pack - and wound up being charged @ £10 per meg. NOT from "overuse", but because of a registration screwup. (Those who DID get billed, NB.) Bottom line... ring 150 and ask for GPRS to be enabled on your phone with a "PAYU" a/c. Without O switching on your access at the OTHER end, NOTHING you do to your phone's settings are going to give you access to the network. Without the required "flags", the call will get as far as the nearest GPRS node, you'll be identified, your a/c looked at by the computer, and you'll be kicked off.

Note that's for "general" GPRS use - but likewise, without the "MMS" flag back on the computer, MMS ain't going to work either.

[Guest swanseastu]

Your'e be pleased to know I dont use GPRS either. I use my work's orange Sim in mine which is not GPRS enabled.

I dont use MMS, but do dial up in the old fashioned way to collect email, use MSN mesenger and surf.

My compnay has a pretty good contract with orange so personal calls do not cost me that much. Maybe soon they will be enabling GPRS, I did ask but wss told not at the moment.

For the techies out there, thanks for everything you guy's are doing. Finally, what about wap? is it worth trying to set this up in orange? any benefits? any good sites etc, for us porr old fashioned people who cannot afford aor cannot persuede the boss to upgarde there business mobile phone line?

[Guest Big Ron - No Longer a Mem]

"For the techies out there, thanks for everything you guy's are doing. Finally, what about wap? is it worth trying to set this up in orange? any benefits? any good sites etc, for us porr old fashioned people who cannot afford aor cannot persuede the boss to upgarde there business mobile phone line? "

I keep ON saying this, but seeing as you asked... Orange have an even better deal on GPRS WAP (i.e. GPRS access ONLY to WAP for billing purposes - any other kind of GPRS access is billed separately) than the SPV promo pack. £4 per month (and the first three months FREE!) gets you 10 meg a month of GPRS WAP-Only access - which in realistic terms means "unlimited." If you've got an Orange.co.uk email account, you can send effectively unlimited text-only emails (via WAP) for the £4 - any length you want (no 160 character limit) as many as you want for the price of 40 SMS text messages. NO "minimum contract" - you can sign up for the pack, and cancel at the end of the free period. But at those prices... who would want to?!