Guest ajb3000 Posted February 26, 2003 Report Posted February 26, 2003 What can 3G offer that 2.5G and an SPV cannot in some form? They have 64kbps data access, we have 43.2kbps (whose gonna notice the difference?) They can view video on their mobile, so can we. They can capture video and send it to friends, so can we (with IA Capture then e-mail it). I know you can't recieve video attachments on the SPV yet but I'm sure that will come with a new program/update. Plus add the extortionate costs involved with 3G (cheapest tariff at the moment is £59.99/month), and none of your friends will have 3G.
Guest spacemonkey Posted February 26, 2003 Report Posted February 26, 2003 3G is the next technology... the reason it will eventually reach us all is because it's next. 2.5G which is what SPV is based on has been tweaked to give us as much as it can within it's limitations, and that makes it pretty damn good. Not a lot of point comparing them too hard tho, cos down the track it's just a question of inevitable progress that will bring us 3G and we will get some marginal benefits from it over what the SPV can do. Of course some articles I've read suggests that 4G (which has some more significant gains architecturally) will probably get here not long after 3G...
Guest benny Posted February 26, 2003 Report Posted February 26, 2003 Yep, 4G and 5G are on the way...6G on the horizon, from what I can tell. Multimegabit data service anyone? :) B
Guest Monolithix [MVP] Posted February 26, 2003 Report Posted February 26, 2003 I read max data transfer rate for 3G is 2mbit....
Guest benny Posted February 26, 2003 Report Posted February 26, 2003 Yep, short-range 3G (UMTS) is around 2Mbit/s, although this depends on your location... Rural / Satellite: 144Kbit/sec Urban Outdoor: 384Kbit/sec Indoor / short range oudoor: 2048Kbit/sec So great for the "Personal Area Network", but not necessarily so hot for people stuck out in the sticks. Still, its a fair bit faster than dual-channel ISDN, but it will probably cost about ten times as much! I dunno how feasible long haul 802.11 would be though...I've seen 1Mbit 802.11b sustain a reliable service with yagi and parabolic dish antennae over 1.5km, although as a LAN technology, the focus seems to be on throughput as opposed to range. B
Guest meaks Posted February 26, 2003 Report Posted February 26, 2003 3G umm lemme see - how about recieving video footage of the days football goals sent straight to your phone
Guest Monolithix [MVP] Posted February 26, 2003 Report Posted February 26, 2003 Ah cheers benny, i couldn't remember the UMTS acronym :)
Guest ajb3000 Posted February 26, 2003 Report Posted February 26, 2003 theoretically its 2MBps, but I read somewhere that current mobile phone manufacturers are limiting them to 128KBps, and networks limiting to 64KBps
Guest Monolithix [MVP] Posted February 27, 2003 Report Posted February 27, 2003 Presumably due to limitations on the networks current capacity...
Guest amo Posted February 27, 2003 Report Posted February 27, 2003 Personally i can see a benefit of 3g. me and my girlfriend live quite far apart so we dont see each other as often as we'd like. Now just think of the possibilities of video "conferincing" on those long lonely nights alone.... :roll: (*giggles*)
Guest Monolithix [MVP] Posted February 27, 2003 Report Posted February 27, 2003 I now have a small inventory of webcams, and i've overloaded my USB hub and caused system halts from using them ;p
Guest sarge Posted February 27, 2003 Report Posted February 27, 2003 Umm..before slating the Hutchisons 3 rates, have a look whats included in the package. when it comes to "Bangs for the buck" it outdoes any 2.5G subscription tenfold. Also, the major selling point (beyond novelty value for early adopters) is the added services and there are plenty of those which just aren't feasible on GPRS (although the addition of EDGE would help that).
Guest h00pyfr00d Posted February 27, 2003 Report Posted February 27, 2003 I just ordered my lovely NEC e808 3G phone yesterday...It arrives 31st March. Current figures say that we should expect 128kbps rates +...whatever "+" means....although the 3G network only covers 50% of the UK (In a blob around major cities). When you're not in the city the phone switches to the GSM/GPRS networks. I'd like to say that although the current tarrifs at £60 upwards, have you seen what you get for your money? I'll be getting 1000 (Yes, a thousand) minutes...100 Video minutes. 250 Text messages, 100 MMS messages, 50 Video messages and 50 'events' (Emails, Downloading video files etc)... ....Oh, and while we're on the subject of what 3G can do that 2.5 can't; How about Global positioning??....Video calling??.... :wink:
Guest fraser Posted February 27, 2003 Report Posted February 27, 2003 Large bundles are all well and good, but they are a waste if you don't use them. Personally, I don't see myself ever using MMS (just use e-mail at a fraction of the cost) or the video minutes. What's the point in video calls on a mobile? Are you going to walk around with it in front of you? No thanks, my broadband at home does that just as well, for zero cost per minute. As for Global Positioning...well I'm already unhappy about the current ability of GSM to track where you are. Just ask the Hamiltons, who used mobile phone location records to prove their innocence. 3G has the potential to be a huge flop.
Guest xanadu Posted February 27, 2003 Report Posted February 27, 2003 I'd like to say that although the current tarrifs at £60 upwards, have you seen what you get for your money? I'll be getting 1000 (Yes, a thousand) minutes...100 Video minutes. 250 Text messages, 100 MMS messages, 50 Video messages and 50 'events' (Emails, Downloading video files etc)... Do the included minutes include roaming charges onto the O2 network ? or is it only for the 3G network ? If it doesn't then I guess you will be getting a huge extra bill for roaming onto a network that actually works most of the time.
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