Guest MARKUKCOUK Posted March 7, 2003 Report Posted March 7, 2003 Hiya I've managed to get my SPV modem working (and its very useful whne the landline is in use. However, it connects using the short code thing (*99# or similar) and onto GPRS. Can someone explain if its possible to connect to my ISP instead. Its an 0808 number (and ive confirmed with orange that on my contract, this is FREE). Is it possible, if so how, and is there any advantages to using a properISP rather than GPRS? side issue: GPRS has been very poor seemingly since the update, sometimes it sicks on "dialing" , sometimes i get "verify net coverage" sometimes "unable to place call". it also disconnects MSN quite often now. Any thoughts?
Guest Monolithix [MVP] Posted March 7, 2003 Report Posted March 7, 2003 Level 2 tech support were supposed to get back to me on this last week, nothing yet though :/ As for your problems connecting you aren't the only one unforutnately....
Guest Rob_Quads Posted March 7, 2003 Report Posted March 7, 2003 As a sort of follow on from that do you know if it is possible to configure the phone OS to use a different ISP i.e. You go abroad. There is no GRPS service and you just want to use the stuff on the phone with another ISP (rather than using a computer connected to the phone and using the phone as a bare modem)
Guest MARKUKCOUK Posted March 7, 2003 Report Posted March 7, 2003 Level 2 tech support were supposed to get back to me on this last week, nothing yet though :/ As for your problems connecting you aren't the only one unforutnately.... well if you ever get a reply, it would be really helpful if you could let me know either here or via PM if its possible :) Thanks and GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR@gprs problems
Guest ajb3000 Posted March 9, 2003 Report Posted March 9, 2003 Just a word of warning, 0800 (and all derivatives) are free on Orange EXCEPT for data calls!! I'm not sure how you and CS worded it, but a data 0800 call WILL BE CHARGED, only voice are free. I believe they implemented this soon after all the 0800 ISPs came out.
Guest Monolithix [MVP] Posted March 9, 2003 Report Posted March 9, 2003 Yeah i had heard that. The idea was to confirm it can be achieved and what charges are incurred with L2 support :)
Guest Playdoh Posted March 9, 2003 Report Posted March 9, 2003 On both of these questions, the answer is yes: 1) to use a different ISP when using as an IR modem, just create a dialup connection and you will be prompted for your username/password when the phone connects. I haven't tested this thoroughly but it should work fine 2) to use a different ISP directly on the phone, you need to create a new dial up connection under the Data Connection settings. If you set that to be the default, it will dial your ISP instead of Orange GPRS. However, in both of these scenarios, remember that you're only going to get a 9.6k circuit switched data call and as someone has already pointed out, you may indeed be charged for an 0800 call if it's a data call
Guest pnw Posted March 10, 2003 Report Posted March 10, 2003 Have tried setting up a dial-up connection to Freeserve ISP on the spv, but phone won't connect. Have no trouble connecting using ipaq/ericsson t39 combination using same sim card. Have tried with and without automatic detection of settings (internet explorer) and with and without DNS address. Can anybody help? My phone bill will go sky high once GPRS £6 promotion ends, so need an alternative connection. Sorry if I'm covering old ground, but I'm new here. Cheers :?
Guest XPClone Posted March 10, 2003 Report Posted March 10, 2003 I think you'll find 0808 numbers aren't valid on the GSM network. You won't be able to place a data call when dialling this number.
Guest fozzie Posted March 10, 2003 Report Posted March 10, 2003 I think you'll find 0808 numbers aren't valid on the GSM network. You won't be able to place a data call when dialling this number. Don't know where you got this info from, but it's certainly not true for the Orange Network! :?
Guest benzguy777 Posted March 10, 2003 Report Posted March 10, 2003 Can i use this (Smartphone SPV) phone to dial to my ISP? Don't want to use GPRS here in my country as it is very expensive. I wonder what connect speed it will connect dialing into a 56K enabled ISP? I cannot find any specs that has it's modem speed.
Guest Syvwlch Posted March 10, 2003 Report Posted March 10, 2003 If you are not using GPRS, but connection to an ISP with a Dial-Up, you will be in a CSD (Circuit-Switched Data) call. The speed is 9.6k, and you will be billed by the minute as per a normal voice call, unless the number has a special rate (this 0808 debate above). Usualy more expensive than GPRS, but I suppose that depends on local conditions.
Guest omar_g Posted March 10, 2003 Report Posted March 10, 2003 Most of the large ISP's in the UK offer geographical dial up access which should be covered under your free minutes (It is on O2 & T-Mobile, despite claims to the contray by the CS bods). By geographical, I mean a local coded/rate number. In London for example, BT Openworld offer 56k access over an 0208 or 0207 dial up number. Give you ISP a call. :wink:
Guest fozzie Posted March 10, 2003 Report Posted March 10, 2003 Where did you get your info from? Me, my phone & I !! Have been using 0800 & 0808 numbers for voice and data on Orange for years now :) And your info that "0808 numbers aren't valid on the GSM network" :?:
Guest ajb3000 Posted March 10, 2003 Report Posted March 10, 2003 When you sign up to Freeserve for an unmetered service you have to give them your phone number, then you can only dial in from that number. Your GSM number is obviously different to your home number. If you are on ED50, 0845 numbers are deducted from your free minutes, so dial into their 0845 number and it should work fine. If your not on ED50 I believe 0845 numbers are charged for at al times without comming out of your minutes, so see if they have a local number.
Guest frankwilliams Posted March 11, 2003 Report Posted March 11, 2003 Blokey at orange told me using an 0845 ISP would be inclusive on the minutes supplied by ED50 unless you get downloads of greater than 14.4K per sec. Thing is though transmission rates they set you at are: 2.4k? 9.6K or twenty something So you would have to set your modem connection rate to the right speed in your OS to not get charged the spanking 25 odd pennies a minute of high speed data connection
Guest XPClone Posted March 12, 2003 Report Posted March 12, 2003 It doesn't work like that. You have to be enabled for high speed and you enter an AT string on the modem your are using or on the the connection settings. This string forces the modem to connect using more time slots. This is how you get access to high speed. Changing the modem speed on the OS won't make any difference.
Guest Shane Posted April 7, 2003 Report Posted April 7, 2003 OK, so I'm trying to get my e-mail from Freeserve. So do I dial *99# and get connected by get told can't connect to my incoming server, and can get no web pages. Or do I use the freeserve tel number 0845 **** and can't get a connection at all. Very confused
Guest simon.stocks Posted April 7, 2003 Report Posted April 7, 2003 This may or may not be relevant (and apologies if it's stating the obvious), but I have just set up my phone as a USB modem and have got it to work fine - I followed the instructions posted elsewhere on this site - (click here) - to get the modem set up which allowed me to get "online" (e.g. use MSN Messanger) but not to view any websites etc. One thing to clarify which may have thrown a few people off the scent - when you activate the SPV modem as per instructions in the other post, after you have selected "Activate" from the menu, don't then press "Done" (left hand softkey) as this effectively ends the modem session I think. The main thing that I wanted to say was that it may be necessary to manually enter a DNS Server address so - you can do this by: - going into the Properties of your new *99# Connection - going to Networking, double-clicking on Internet Protocol TCP/IP (or highlightling and clickign properties) - selecting "Use the following DNS Server addresses" - then simply enter the IP address of a known DNS Server which your ISP can provide you with I think. Hope that helps Simon PS - this is on a Windows 2000 SP 2 machine
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