Guest martin Posted March 9, 2003 Report Posted March 9, 2003 I have been running unsigned apps on my phone for a couple of months now without problems. I have also installed the Orange update and de-certified again. No problems since. For no particular reason, I decided to have a look at the mcip_oem_10 file in smartphone/windows and copied the file to C drive and found the following. AAgghhh I thought - my phone must have reset. I loaded up sptaskmgr, done in 50 demo, Doom SPV - ALL OK I rebooted my phone thinking that this file may take affect then - but no, I can still run unsigned apps. I have copied and re-checked this file a few times now and it still shows old parameters settings. IM NOT GOING MAD ? Do others show this ?
Guest Syvwlch Posted March 9, 2003 Report Posted March 9, 2003 Never thought to check... Hold on a minute. Edit : Can't seem to open it with NotBad. Will have to check with PC tomorrow.
Guest Monolithix [MVP] Posted March 9, 2003 Report Posted March 9, 2003 Yeah i think it does this, seem to remember reading about it before. As long as everything works fine i shouldn't worry about it too much :)
Guest martin Posted March 9, 2003 Report Posted March 9, 2003 I might ammend and copy the file over to the phone again while its not affecting anything. Just in case it does decide to update other files.
Guest Vector Posted March 9, 2003 Report Posted March 9, 2003 Yeah,mine has done this aswell. Along as my fone is still unlocked it doesn't bother me :roll:
Guest TSCRYPTO Posted March 9, 2003 Report Posted March 9, 2003 Have just had a look at mine (NotBad wouldnt open it, but IE would) and its changed. Everything is fine, mind you. But I am interested to know just why its changed??? :?:
Guest Syvwlch Posted March 9, 2003 Report Posted March 9, 2003 and why it's changing doesn't cause the phone to un-de-cert...
Guest TSCRYPTO Posted March 9, 2003 Report Posted March 9, 2003 Interesting... Any theories????????????
Guest PsychoDave Posted March 9, 2003 Report Posted March 9, 2003 Is the file not just being overwritten by the reset but is not loaded into the rom unless hard reset. Or maybe Im just speaking p*sh :)
Guest awarner [MVP] Posted March 9, 2003 Report Posted March 9, 2003 Well the phone does have an auto-repair feature built into it so any errors it will try to fix them, so this could be the cause. Also the main windows folder is reset every time you power up the phone. The reason the phone does not re-certify is that this file is ony read at a hard reset so the error must be quite bad for some phone to recertify as previously posted. This is IMHO so i am waiting for all those to shout me down :) anyone else have a better idea (or more exact one would be better)
Guest Syvwlch Posted March 9, 2003 Report Posted March 9, 2003 Well the weird thing is I've had it refuse to run uncertified apps twice, but upon reboot, gone back to being de-certified. How would THAT fit in?
Guest martin Posted March 9, 2003 Report Posted March 9, 2003 Maybe this is in preperation for the big 'O' day. When all phones are reset simultaneously and de-cert is no longer more. Be afraid, be very afraid.
Guest TSCRYPTO Posted March 9, 2003 Report Posted March 9, 2003 Cheers awarner - certainly sounds feasible.
Guest Bazz Posted March 9, 2003 Report Posted March 9, 2003 Yup Awarner's right. It didn't just suddenly reset. It reset the first time you restarted the phone and it's only re-read on a hard reset or if the phone screws something up and has to (automatically) do a semi-hard reset. Nothing to worry or get paranoid about - it's perfectly normal.
Guest martin Posted March 10, 2003 Report Posted March 10, 2003 Just joking about big brOther. I did wonder though if other SPV owners were checking this file as confirmation of de-cert. I had just pasted the file in and accepted it as done. Never checked. Could this have anything to do with the 100,000 attempts being reported by first time de-certers ?
Guest Will Posted March 10, 2003 Report Posted March 10, 2003 just a thought did you unlock your phone before the uk update? the update 'probably' wrote a new file into that directory when it deleted the other provisioning file. hence the file is changed. note: don't ask how it knows if you have a properly unlocked phone! will
Guest pipin Posted March 10, 2003 Report Posted March 10, 2003 :) i did,nt have my phone un-locked b4 the update but each time i now try to de-certd :cry: ( and i.ve tried about 150 times if not more since the update ) the file copies over and seems "notice the word seems" to be overwiting the "oranginal" file but when i switch the phone off and back on again the files as returned to it,s "oranginal" state thus prvevent me from installing un-signed applications. Also before the update i was able to use other sim cards in my phone by the methord posted in this forum now it does,nt allow any other sim unless i am able to input sim unlock code. i use the french install engine to install the update everything else is ok and working alright, " but the un-cert no can do man " :? brain gone dead from wishing the poxy thing un-certed aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh :cry: but i will crack it.
Guest pipin Posted March 10, 2003 Report Posted March 10, 2003 :) i did,nt have my phone un-locked b4 the update but each time i now try to de-certd :cry: ( and i.ve tried about 150 times if not more since the update ) the file copies over and seems "notice the word seems" to be overwiting the "oranginal" file but when i switch the phone off and back on again the files as returned to it,s "oranginal" state thus prvevent me from installing un-signed applications. Also before the update i was able to use other sim cards in my phone by the methord posted in this forum now it does,nt allow any other sim unless i am able to input sim unlock code. i use the french install engine to install the update everything else is ok and working alright, " but the un-cert no can do man " :? brain gone dead from wishing the poxy thing un-certed aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh :cry: but i will crack it.
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