Guest marc225 Posted March 12, 2003 Report Posted March 12, 2003 Hi Guys Am i right in thinking that all the while you are signed in to MSN you are being cahrged for GPRS all the time? So you could be running up quite a bill? Thnx Marc
Guest Lojt Posted March 12, 2003 Report Posted March 12, 2003 Yes, you are right, but you'll only pay for the data sendt and recieved.
Guest Syvwlch Posted March 12, 2003 Report Posted March 12, 2003 Altho, to be 100% clear, MSN sends and receives data even when no Instant Messages go back and forth... Not a lot, but could add up. I believe someone once calculated how much using the GPRS counter, a couple months back? Edit : Try this thread : http://www.modaco.com/viewtopic...hlight=msn+gprs
Guest morpheus Posted March 12, 2003 Report Posted March 12, 2003 Just to clarify the point for everyone about MSN and GPRS. When on MSN and you are chatting and not sending files to each other, the text you write is converted into KBs and you are charged from your bundle. The same applies to receiving text Also, using emoticons etc.... uses more data So a good half hour chat to a m8 could notch up at least 2.5 meg !! Any Q's regarding SPV and GPRS, ask and ill do my best for ya Morpheus
Guest Syvwlch Posted March 12, 2003 Report Posted March 12, 2003 Any Q's regarding SPV and GPRS, ask and ill do my best for ya Morpheus Welcome aboard, Morpheus! That's excellent news. Plenty of questions on that subject in Help&Advice, as Richie and I can attest... :wink:
Guest Richie M Posted March 12, 2003 Report Posted March 12, 2003 :roll: i'm avoiding that place for a while :) Morpheus - dosent MSN continually poll though, thus even if your just logged on its ticking up GPRS charge?
Guest Emad Posted March 12, 2003 Report Posted March 12, 2003 Why would using emoticons use up more gprs? They're just sent as normal ascii characters and converted at the user end, aren't they? Besides, its not like MSN on the phone even has smilies :) MSN does continuously poll - thats why you tend to get sign ons of mates in lil groups of 2 or more. On the phone I doubt it'll be in the meg region tho - looking at my logs on my computer, the largest from this year is about a meg (text only) and that's with us talking for an average of 2 hours a day, every day.. I worked with the MSN type protocols last year and as far as can remember each message is about half formatting, half content on pcs. On hte phone the formatting should largely be able to be removed.
Guest yatpeak Posted March 13, 2003 Report Posted March 13, 2003 Emoticons use more data simply because they're small images. Wyatt
Guest morpheus Posted March 13, 2003 Report Posted March 13, 2003 Answer me this then... Emoticons are converted to smilies exactly when? 1. Just before the user receives the ascii or 2. As soon as it is received? Morpheus
Guest Chris b.a.r.f. Posted March 13, 2003 Report Posted March 13, 2003 Emoticons use more data simply because they're small images. I'd always been under the impression that emoticons are converted to ASCII before sending, the receiver's MSN client re-converting to a graphic at the other end. Why would it be any other way? I always turn the bassa things off anyway on MSN/ICQ/YIM, they look so damn inane. Prefer the good old-fashioned ASCII-smileys : )
Guest Emad Posted March 13, 2003 Report Posted March 13, 2003 Unless they've been changing the protocols, the emoticons aren't transmitted over the net - just the asci equivalent, ie : and ) will become :) because those two are intepreted at the recievers end. Have a look at how programs like Trillian use xml mappings for them to see how.
Guest Bazz Posted March 13, 2003 Report Posted March 13, 2003 So a good half hour chat to a m8 could notch up at least 2.5 meg !! Er No! 2.5 meg is a HELL of a lot of text. You'd need to be typing some sorta essay to get 2.5 meg! I presume you only thought this because you thought the emoticons were sent as images?
Guest yatpeak Posted March 14, 2003 Report Posted March 14, 2003 So emoticons don't use much data, that's a good thing as I like using them. Wyatt
Guest xenaco Posted March 14, 2003 Report Posted March 14, 2003 2.5MB's is way too much. i have used messenger for hours on end, and the months total GPRS data was just over 4MB, and those chats were more than 30mins, and to more than one person at a time. emoticons are at most equivalent to 3 characters of text sent. if someone from pc sends you an emoticon, it appears on the phone as the characters required to create the emoticon, and vice versa if you send an emoticon sequence. I dont think messenger polls continuously, otherwise name changes etc, would update quicker than they do. i think its a periodic poll.
Guest yatpeak Posted March 15, 2003 Report Posted March 15, 2003 It's a good thing messenger doesn't take 2.5mb for a single conv, or a lot of people'd go broke. Wyatt
Guest benjymous Posted March 17, 2003 Report Posted March 17, 2003 I estimated that from all my msn logs in trillian, I send/recieve about half a meg in total over a 6 month period (I'm sure more social people will use far more than that) but then again, because it's a keypad, I'm typing much less on phone-msn anyway
Guest TSCRYPTO Posted March 17, 2003 Report Posted March 17, 2003 xeneco wrote: 2.5MB's is way too much. i have used messenger for hours on end, and the months total GPRS data was just over 4MB, and those chats were more than 30mins, and to more than one person at a time. I had a half hour chat via MSN Messenger to a mate of mine in the US today and checked my GPRS counter afterwards - it showed about 30KB used.
Guest madu Posted March 17, 2003 Report Posted March 17, 2003 agreed. ask any person that knows msn protocol. they'll tell you it uses miser amounts of data s/r. and icons are a user-end convertion. sometimes on slow computers even you see how the text is being sent in ascii and in a second converted into an icon. no images are sent AT ALL. They are all on your pc and the code says: : + ) = :) -> well something along the lines. so 2.5 mb for half an hour is IMPOSSIBLE- that would take months of conversation even if u r a real sad msn person with no friends to speak to (type only)!! he he ;)
Guest Coolboy1982 Posted April 21, 2003 Report Posted April 21, 2003 I estimated that from all my msn logs in trillian, I send/recieve about half a meg in total over a 6 month period (I'm sure more social people will use far more than that) but then again, because it's a keypad, I'm typing much less on phone-msn anyway That's about what I have! And I don't think that there'd be a lot more added from the "background" operations of msn apart from transmitting the text!
Guest slaatje Posted April 21, 2003 Report Posted April 21, 2003 So a good half hour chat to a m8 could notch up at least 2.5 meg !! Any Q's regarding SPV and GPRS, ask and ill do my best for ya Morpheus Well, I hope you do your best next time 'cause this answer is nonsense.
Guest Monolithix [MVP] Posted April 21, 2003 Report Posted April 21, 2003 Moved to Help and Advice...
Guest morpheus Posted April 21, 2003 Report Posted April 21, 2003 My apologies, i am going by Orange customers that I speak to and use the phone for business, to keep in touch with customers etc........ :arrow: morpheus
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