Guest kidster Posted June 4, 2003 Report Posted June 4, 2003 Hi I have just been to my local orange shop and they told me that they are buying back phones for £20 if you upgrade - making the SPV £9.99! I have to check for the full details but it sounds like a good deal! Kidster :lol:
Guest ADS Posted June 4, 2003 Report Posted June 4, 2003 I would rather keep my old phone and pay the extra £20. You never know when you might need it. Or sell it for more tha £20 !!
Guest Emissary Posted June 4, 2003 Report Posted June 4, 2003 I've heard the SPV is a free upgrade if you buy direct rather than through the stores.
Guest kidster Posted June 4, 2003 Report Posted June 4, 2003 Is that a recent thing? I spoke to Orange last week on the phone - they didn't have any phones in stock at the time but they would be £30 when they were back in stock. Cheers Kidster
Guest StevieSPV Posted June 4, 2003 Report Posted June 4, 2003 Goto TheLink mine cost £0 should have been £19 on a £15 a month contract lol OrangeShop wanted £119 on a £15 contract to get the phone for £29 OrangeShop said I needed to have a £30 a month Contract!!!! WTF ripping ppl off as usual..Shop around m8
Guest Speedy Posted June 5, 2003 Report Posted June 5, 2003 Sounds cool Hope they o dk will do the same thing when the tanager reaches denmark.
Guest JoelRae Posted June 5, 2003 Report Posted June 5, 2003 Yep, I upgraded mine in a UK orange shop for £30 and will be getting £20 back on my bill for my old sony j70 ... wasn't gonna sell that for much :roll: ... phone still came with everything (inc. camera) so no probs there. I did phone orange first, but they weren't offering anything better and didn't have any SPVs in stock anyway :lol: Joel
Guest Pagemakers Posted June 5, 2003 Report Posted June 5, 2003 My Mate's just bought an SPV for £0 at an Orange shop. He has to subscribe to a £50 tariff though.
Guest Big Ron - No Longer a Mem Posted June 5, 2003 Report Posted June 5, 2003 If Sendo win the action they're bringing against Orange - claiming that the SPV uses stolen IP, then Orange may wind up buying-back all 40,000 SPV's! In which case, the price on offer is likely to be a lot higher than £20 - it ought to be a full refund, surely?!
Guest Vector Posted June 5, 2003 Report Posted June 5, 2003 Does that mean that we'll all get Tanagers ? :lol:
Guest Big Ron - No Longer a Mem Posted June 5, 2003 Report Posted June 5, 2003 If Orange lose the case, it looks like the Tanager is a dead duck - like the SPV, it (alledgedly) relies on improvements made by Sendo to Microsoft's prototype. Sendo claim that Microsoft took these improvements - which SHOULD have been restricted to the joint-development project (which was supposedly "exclusive") and handed them to HTC. Sendo soes the work... Microsoft (and eventually Orange) grab the benefits by "pirating" Sendo's Intellectual property. Kind of ironic, seeing how upset Microsoft get when THEIR intellectual property gets pirated. (Although, alledgedly, they don't seem to mind too much in South America!) Sendo are going for a complete cessation of sales of the SPV in ANY form that includes Sendo's modifications + punitive damages. I'm not a lawyer... but it seems to me that if Sendo win, then SPV owners would have a good claim that they'd unwittingly been made party to an "illegal sale", and they wanted their money back IN FULL.
Guest Inevitable Posted June 7, 2003 Report Posted June 7, 2003 You think Sendo wants the phone's back? nope.. they will just settle for some cool millions from M$ and make an arrangment that sendo get so much % from every tanager sale made makin the tanager about 25% more xpensive.
Guest Big Ron - No Longer a Mem Posted June 7, 2003 Report Posted June 7, 2003 Or, then again, they may choose to combine vengeance with practicality. Damages AND the removal of any competition from Microsoft against the re-issued Symbian Z-100. They claim that Microsoft tried to destroy their company - and on the evidence they've presented, that looks believeable. Destroying Microsoft's pet project, or at least "setting it back so far that it comes in third in the following race" has a certain poetic justice. Sendo clearly see their future in Symbian phones - getting a royalty from Microsoft/Orange for the short period that the SPV remains "sexy" seems far less attractive than boosting Symbian by crippling the opposition by forcing them to redesign their product. As I understand it, Microsoft's Stinger/Canary software is tied VERY closely to a "reference" hardware design. The idea MS was hawking around (without notable success) was that companies who hadn't previously been in the phone business could buy the software and license the design from MS - "in kit form". Again, unless I've seriously misunderstood the reports, you're not allowed to change the software AT ALL, and if you change the hardware design much, it stops working with the "unchangeable" software. I feel like Rolf Harris - "Can you see what it is yet?" If the above is true, then despite Orange being the FIRST to recieve a writ from Sendo, Their claim (check BOTH lawsuits - Microsoft AND Orange) is that they (Sendo) own a significant chunk of the hardware design. So it's not going to be just Orange - they're going after ANYONE who uses the reference design, which potentially gives them the ability to stop Smartphone dead in its tracks. Is this not obvious? It's basically why I've been so fascinated by the case since enough details emerges to show the potential - and if you search the archives, you'll find I've been hammering on about it since Xmas. Did NOBODY else see the potential? Bottom line, Sendo NOW makes Symbian phones - advanced ones that have similar facilities to the SPV (the Z100 started out AS an SPV clone) They have the choice to kill their competitor by "closing off the air supply" (to use a Microsoft phrase) or they can extract a few pence from each rival phone sold. They'd be crazy to do the latter.
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