Guest solo Posted June 9, 2003 Report Posted June 9, 2003 I have recently installed the task manager software from IAStyle and I am shocked :evil: at how inefficient many of the SPV apps are. The taks manager app shows that many SPV apps, be it the inbox, calendar entry, web browser, etc is retained in memory when you exit it. These apps have no exit function. At the moment, to exit, you simply use the back button, but this still retains the app in memory. I can understand why this works in this way - you are using the back button, which by implication suggests that you might want to return, thus if it is retained in memory and will open more quickly. But this has a flaw. The more stuff retained in memory the less memory I have available for other apps. It is possible that I will have so little meory that some apps may not run smoothly, etc. I think there should be a 'back' and 'exit' feature, so that you can make an informed choice as to what you want to do. 'Back' keeps it in memory, 'Exit' doesn't. I am suprised that I had to buy IAStyle Task Manager just to figure this out! Now I have to run Task Manager periodically to optimise performance. Or am I being thick and have simply missed something?
Guest spacemonkey Posted June 9, 2003 Report Posted June 9, 2003 This has been discussed extensively in various development threads, but in a nut shell for users. Apps should be able to sit in the background without significantly slowing down the phone. All they should use up is memory. This shouldn't impact any other app loading as there are commands that an application can use to ask the OS to free up enough resources for the loading application. This is how it all works, and the fact that you never even knew this was the case is exactly what microsoft are aiming at. They want a user at most to notice that sometimes inbox takes longer to load but to have no idea of what opening or closing really is. They don't want an exit option because they want you to think "Now I'm doing something else" rather than "Now I'm going to stop doing this, then do something else". This is all fine in theory but a few issues still crop up such as some applications not asking for memory in the right ways and therefore giving an out of memory error which shouldn't happen. Also some apps don't play nice when they are in the background and take performance and battery power from you phone. In an ideal world these above issues wouldn't be a problem because everything would be coded correctly but it's not an ideal world yet and a lot of people have come to depend on the various task manager tools that are available (check out QuickClose on my site, it's free for certification unlock ed phones and closes everything you don't want in one go). It's an annoyance, but for all that, I think most of the reasoning behind microsofts choices for Smartphone 2002 have been pretty good. Just my 2p worth :lol:
Guest Richie M Posted June 9, 2003 Report Posted June 9, 2003 hhhm, nice reply Spacemonkey :lol: :lol: there's nothing else to say really :D
Guest Martin@Home Posted June 9, 2003 Report Posted June 9, 2003 I have SpaceMonkeys quick close app on a shortcut key and it has become almost routine now to run it everytime I have run anything and come back out to the home page just to free up memory. Work a treat ! :lol: :D
Guest Martin@Home Posted June 9, 2003 Report Posted June 9, 2003 Even better, I now have it mapped to the voice record button so I dont even have to get back to the home screen to run it !
Guest James Posted June 9, 2003 Report Posted June 9, 2003 is it something to do with the 'rules' not to have an exit function to approved software? if so then why has the orange update app have an exit option?is it something to do with the 'rules' not to have an exit function to approved software? if so then why has the orange update app have an exit option?
Guest Martin@Home Posted June 9, 2003 Report Posted June 9, 2003 Dude... You really should get that stutter seen to :wink:
Guest James Posted June 9, 2003 Report Posted June 9, 2003 god dam! just blame it on gprs! god dam! just blame it on gprs! god dam! just blame it on gprs! god dam! just blame it on gprs! i get s*** signal here!
Guest Martin@Home Posted June 9, 2003 Report Posted June 9, 2003 god dam! just blame it on gprs! god dam! just blame it on gprs! god dam! just blame it on gprs! god dam! just blame it on gprs! i get s*** signal here! :lol:
Guest spacemonkey Posted June 9, 2003 Report Posted June 9, 2003 It is part of Microsofts guidelines for a logo certified application however a number of applications break these rules (especially games). Also, is the Orange Update application actually logo certified? I would guess not.
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