Guest Thurstan Posted June 12, 2003 Report Posted June 12, 2003 My third SPV has just gone the way my first one did - and is stuck on the Orange sunset startup screen. :cry: Now when I had my first SPV back in November I hadn't heard of this site, and merely sent it back for a replacement - but I really don't wanna this time. This one is dust-free and has been a trusty servant for six months now... what I can't remember/find, however, is anyone coming up with a solution for this problem. I've tried a hard reset, and re-flashing the ROM with a backup I'd made on an MMS card. The farthest it got was the blue Smartphone 2002 screen and then it just switched off. Call to Orange time for SPV IV?
Guest martin Posted June 12, 2003 Report Posted June 12, 2003 My third SPV has just gone the way my first one did - and is stuck on the Orange sunset startup screen. Now when I had my first SPV back in November I hadn't heard of this site, and merely sent it back for a replacement - but I really don't wanna this time. This one is dust-free and has been a trusty servant for six months now... what I can't remember/find, however, is anyone coming up with a solution for this problem. I've tried a Hard Reset, and re-flashing the ROM with a backup I'd made on an MMS card. The farthest it got was the blue Smartphone 2002 screen and then it just switched off. Call to Orange time for SPV IV? Restoring from MMC (especially WINCE) should have worked. Often it can take several minutes for the phone to fully reboot after a reload and hard reset. I would have write protected the MMC which contained the backup as it can be accidently overwritten with a corrupted phone OS. I did it myself. A hard reset should restore the phone but it doesn't always do it. Try and restore just WINCE form the MMC card and then hard reset. I it doesn't work then try and load the Orange update again and see you can recover it that way. (load it from the canary screen : using XP/2000). Remember to be patient when the the phone is switched back on (up to 10 mins for recovery) Word of warning: Don't stop the transfer of data between the phone and MMC card, always wait till it finishes. If you stop it by force you can end up with a corrupted bootloader in the phone and then its completely DEAD. I managed to do this also :oops:
Guest Monolithix [MVP] Posted June 12, 2003 Report Posted June 12, 2003 WinCE shouldn't be corrupted unless you start playing with the ROM data....
Guest Simon Desser Posted June 12, 2003 Report Posted June 12, 2003 Word of warning: Don't stop the transfer of data between the phone and MMC card, always wait till it finishes. If you stop it by force you can end up with a corrupted bootloader in the phone and then its completely DEAD. I managed to do this also :oops: I think my mate's done that to his phone :roll: Would a corrupted bootloader mean that the phone won't show ANY signs of life at all, and won't even charge up? If this is the case, is there any way out of it, or is it replacement time :?:
Guest Monolithix [MVP] Posted June 12, 2003 Report Posted June 12, 2003 If you nuke the bootloader your phone hasn't got much hope. Florin was telling us about it at some point, its fixable, but needs specialist equipment.
Guest martin Posted June 12, 2003 Report Posted June 12, 2003 Scary story... Some really spooky things that happened to my phone :shock: Once upon a day, I was feeling wise and I decided to borrow someones elses phone and copy the whole phone over to mine via an SD card. While uploading all files to my phone it was discovered this his phone would no longer boot up. "No worries" I said, "I've got my phone, I'll just copy the files backover". But no, my phone wouldn't boot up either - same problem :? (stuck at sunset screen) His phone must have glitched and the fault had somehow been copied to SD and uploaded on my phone. Damn :D Several attempts to hard reset both phones failed to restore them. I ran the Orange update but the phone STILL failed to boot up. Eventually, due to my frustration and erratically start-stopping the restore from SD I think I managed to load an incomplete bootloader and killed my phone forever. We did recover the other guys phone by uploading WINCE only (which was backed up from a third phone). This brought his phone back to life but the strange thing is that all the IPSM data was intact and therefore the hard resets that had been attempted earlier did nothing. I believe that this fault was an exception but I did make me realise that it can happen. I've had various faults since but they have always been recoverable. I think it was just a VERY BAD DAY but I did get my phone replaced by Orange :lol: Dont try and fix what ain't broken or you'll break it.
Guest Thurstan Posted June 12, 2003 Report Posted June 12, 2003 Time of death 22:48 *covers up SPV*.... Thanks for the wise words - I've just spent the last few hours trying to resuscitate my poor old SPV, following all the great advice outlined here, to no avail. But thank you for your help anyway. *Dons black tie* SPV III is dead.... long live SPV IV
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