Guest fraser Posted August 11, 2003 Report Posted August 11, 2003 Hey All, I'm about to encode some Bo Selecta captures I made for my SPV. What's everyones thoughts on which media app to use? PocketTV? PocketMVP? Is mpeg worth the increased file size? What's the benefits?
Guest Terwin Posted August 11, 2003 Report Posted August 11, 2003 Hey All, Is mpeg worth the increased file size? What's the benefits? Which MPEG...1, 2, 4? For that matter which DIVX (about 20 variations)?
Guest Crispy Posted August 11, 2003 Report Posted August 11, 2003 My opinion: Mpeg = Fast, bad image quality, large files! DivX = Fast, stable & small files!
Guest drblow Posted August 11, 2003 Report Posted August 11, 2003 Definately DIVX! Pocket MVP is the best all round player - video & audio. & with the virtualdub settings from Clint Eastman, the whole package works a treat for encoding videos.
Guest fraser Posted August 11, 2003 Report Posted August 11, 2003 Terwin, whichever mpeg version that PocketTV works best at. DivX would be 5.0.2, the version that PocketMVP (Seems to be called PocketDivX now) uses. I've tried PocketTV briefly, but never encoded anything of my own. I've been using Clint Eastmans VirtualDub settings for DivX so far, but I don't think much of the frame rate I seem to get often. Just seems a little jerky for some things.
Guest Richie M Posted August 12, 2003 Report Posted August 12, 2003 hehe not this old debate again. DiVX all the way!
Guest jabonga Posted August 12, 2003 Report Posted August 12, 2003 can someone post the link where i can download the pocketmvp, divx encoder and Clint Eastmans VirtualDub settings for DivX. thank you very much
Guest jabonga Posted August 12, 2003 Report Posted August 12, 2003 can someone post the link where i can download the pocketmvp, divx encoder and Clint Eastmans VirtualDub settings for DivX. thank you very muchcan someone post the link where i can download the pocketmvp, divx encoder and Clint Eastmans VirtualDub settings for DivX. thank you very much
Guest James Posted August 12, 2003 Report Posted August 12, 2003 do a search on the web for VirtualDub mate. Clint Eastmans VirtualDub settings:- http://smartphone.modaco.com/viewtopic.php?t=6358
Guest markdotpeters5 Posted August 12, 2003 Report Posted August 12, 2003 Err, perhaps I'm missing something quite large, but I can play mpegs at 20+fps on my SPV, and I've not got anywhere near that close with Divx. Yeah the picture quality is slighty better with Divx (less blocky) but 8fps!!? It seems pocket tv plays mpegs quite a bit better than pocketmvp. Let me know what you think.. cheers SIKSIK6
Guest awarner [MVP] Posted August 13, 2003 Report Posted August 13, 2003 With out going into precise frame rates as Richie M said, this had been discussed before. as you say mpeg = blocky picture = higher frame rate Divx = better quality picture = lower frame rate I know what I use and on a small screen do you need a high frame rate? Without looking very close, with a decent divx conversion can you really notice a great difference?
Guest markdotpeters5 Posted August 13, 2003 Report Posted August 13, 2003 All down to personal preference then I guess. I'll stick with mpeg for now. here's hoping my next smartphone will have enough guts to push a Divx at 24fps :)
Guest jim80b Posted August 13, 2003 Report Posted August 13, 2003 is it me??? do i have a superfast spv.... NO please try this divx on mvp and tell me if its slow.... i think you can get 20+ fps (ie like pockettv) with divx. my big problem with divx is stereo at the same speed i encoded this using my own setting, on vdubmod 1.5.4.1 with the new divx manchini (beta) codec. the manchini is SLOW on max settings so i recommend not to use it. (like this took 8 mins to do) 5.02 is the most compatable version i use pocketmvp 3e ohh it wont let me attach. anyone got some space, or can email it out to some.starlight2.zip
Guest Ed Posted August 13, 2003 Report Posted August 13, 2003 Is that you back fiving that rail, or is it not? :)
Guest ClintEastman Posted August 13, 2003 Report Posted August 13, 2003 I love these debates!! I say Betamax is best!!
Guest fraser Posted August 13, 2003 Report Posted August 13, 2003 I get "This file contains an incompatible audio format" on that AVI in the DivX player. Has anyone got any suggestions how to fix it?
Guest markdotpeters5 Posted August 13, 2003 Report Posted August 13, 2003 Quite impressive that clip. smoothest Divx i've seen myself. any chance you could export your settings for me to play with? cheers Mark
Guest jim80b Posted August 14, 2003 Report Posted August 14, 2003 these are the settings for vdubmod if you want to have a go yourself (with any version of vdub) to find your fav settings: 1. open file with vdub 2. go to the filters page (on the video tab) 3. add rotate (not rotate2) option right 90 deg 4. add resize (i use 164w x 220h) on the mode i use lanzos3 but that preferance 5. close filters and open stream list in streams 6. right click and choose full processing mode, them right click again and choose compression. i use divx mpeg layer-3 at 16kBits 11025 Hz Mono. ok it all 7. choose compression from video. 8. choose your installed divx codec and configure it for around 100 kbps thats itsettings.ZIP
Guest markdotpeters5 Posted August 16, 2003 Report Posted August 16, 2003 i've no idea what's up here, but using those settings, I get a horribly jerky video. I've matched the framerate, the resizing options, everything, and it's awfully jerky. Odd eh?!
Guest The PocketTV Team Posted August 16, 2003 Report Posted August 16, 2003 My opinion: Mpeg = Fast, bad image quality, large files! DivX = Fast, stable & small files! Our opinion: Mpeg = MPEG-1. Easy to decode by software-only, good image quality (if encoded with the appropriate resolution, bitrate and other parameters), reasonnably small files. Many excellent tools available for encoding (free and commercial). DivX = based on MPEG-4 and MP3, which uses more advanced compression, also more complex. Harder to decode by software (hardware acceleration recommended), good image quality (if encoded with the appropriate resolution, bitrate and other parameters), files should be about 20-30% smaller than MPEG-1 files for comparable audio and video quality. Not a large choice of tools available for encoding. Check a few MPEG files optimized for Smartphones, and you'll see that the files are reasonnably small and the quality is good: http://www.pockettv.com/mpg/sp/officexp-sps.mpg (30s, 400KB) http://www.pockettv.com/mpg/sp/mikes_new_car_sps.mpg (1min 11s, 1.1MB) http://www.pockettv.com/mpg/sp/405themovie-sps.mpg (3min, 2.7MB) To make those files, we used TMPGEnc with the templates available here: http://forum.pocketmovies.net/viewtopic.ph...php?p=3415#3415 PocketTV Classic is free from http://www.pockettv.com
Guest markdotpeters5 Posted August 17, 2003 Report Posted August 17, 2003 I have to agree, although you obviously have a conflict of interest :) Since SD cards are so cheap, I think I'll stick with mpeg for now. Slightly off topic, but does anyone know if the SPV has a limit to the size of SD card it can support? cheers
Guest fraser Posted August 17, 2003 Report Posted August 17, 2003 I shouldn't have an upper limit. SD cards are designed to handle that...it's not like a normal storage device that's memory addressed. IIRC that is. Price on the other hand is the real limit. You can get 4 256 cards for the price of a 512 last I checked.
Guest markdotpeters5 Posted August 17, 2003 Report Posted August 17, 2003 Yeah, but it's all about convenience. Ebuyer are doing a 512mb card for just over £100. We're going a tad off topic here :)
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