BREAKING NEWS!!! Nokia Car Charger Fits Spv!!!!!

[Guest ***merlin***]

Just found out today that the adapter that you take off the charger when you plug it into the cradle fits onto my nokia car charger! and works!

The car charger was originaly for my 8210, the end is slightly different to a nokia house charger.

Saves me buying a car charger any way :)

[Guest squall]

not really breaking news! only problem is that the car chargers arent same ampage, so you could damage your battery.

[Guest ***merlin***]

Ampage has nothing to do with it, you dont push ampage into a battery....the battery or device draws the ampage it needs if its available, it is the voltage that matters and in this case the voltage that comes out of the car charger is just over 5v so no problems.......

[Guest squall]

not quite right, nokia charger is limited to a current of 0.335A, where as the spv charger is limited to a higher current (1A) Ive heard that the lower current from the nokia charger leads to the chemicals in the battery not cycling properly:

You dont get the battery memory effect on li-ion if you always charge at the same voltage, and same current, but if you alter these values, the battery will end up giving out the values ots being charged with rather than the values its rated at.

The spv battery also has a small circuit in it to ensure that the battery never full discharges, dont know how the change in current would effect it.

(sorry i know thats not very clear but battery charging is pretty complex)

[Guest awarner [MVP]]

ampage has everything to do with it from the heat generated while charging and also the speed of the charge.

Nokia chargers are slightly higher voltage by 0.3v so nothing too serious but they have a mch lower aperage output 500mA compared to the SPV's 1A.

Also the charger does not really fit unless you call brute force working :) then you are putting strain on the connector.

[Guest ***merlin***]

Well, the connector fits without 'brute force' perfect fit unlike the mains charger which is thicker. :roll:

The Actual current drawn by phone is 1.2 amp on the spv mains charger and .85 on my nokia car charger so, not much of a difference.

The phone is mainly plugged in to the mains at home, but i use it for work (mobile autoelectrician) and it likes to go flat at the wrong moment. so it will only be used for emergencys, so the differnece in current wont damage the battery.

I did fully test it before plugging it all in, so in conclusion your attempt at trying to dumb my post down has been in vain..... :cry:

I would like to point out that nokia car chargers vary greatly in quality and current etc because of mass produced techiques and that if anyone does wish to do this please test it first.....and if your not sure, dont do it!

[Guest squall]

no one attempted to dumb your post down, ive had alot of experience with battery charging, and i dont think what your doing is a best practice, i know it wont make any difference short term, but it WILL in the long term.

you can get a spv car charger for less than £10 so for anyone reading this, id suggest its a better alternitive than having to get a replacement battery in a years time due to poor performance.

[Guest Simon Desser]

Hardly "BREAKING NEWS" though :? it was discussed as early as November 2002 here :)

[Guest ***merlin***]

Hardly "BREAKING NEWS" though :?  it was discussed as early as November 2002 here  :)

I know ;) but it might be if it broke the phone :D

[Guest awarner [MVP]]

Also I never mentioned that it would not work and gave facts as posted by other members as well as myself.

You are the first person to say the charger fits without forcing the connector.

And there was no intention to "dumb" a post. :roll:

[Guest ***merlin***]

Also I never mentioned that it would not work and gave facts as posted by other members as well as myself.

You are the first person to say the charger fits without forcing the connector.

And there was no intention to "dumb" a post. :roll:

Thats cool no worries, im not sure why the connector is the smaller type but it does fit like it was made for the job, you are right in saying that most of them would need brute force.....

I have another car charger for nokia and all the values are different and the plug doesnt fit, the one that works is described as a 'saver charger' and i think it has circuitry that configures itself to the load applied.

Only posted it as breaking news cus id solved by flat battery problem without the hassle of going out and buying a car charger.

The draw of .85 amps should cause no problem to the performance of the battery in the 'long term'.

I deal with current and voltage everyday, and fully understand ohms law and realize that alot of people dont and just plug stuff in without considering the 'finer' points.

It is also very easy to obtain a connector to get the 5v from the ps2 port on a laptop etc and plug it into the spv adapter.

[Guest awarner [MVP]]

It is also very easy to obtain a connector to get the 5v from the ps2 port on a laptop etc and plug it into the spv adapter.

Iteresting idea never considered that :) I use the USB to charge as it's 5v as well ;)