Guest cyrilthefish Posted September 19, 2003 Report Posted September 19, 2003 Just something i've been wondering recently, i'd quite happily ditch all my MP3's off my SD card and play music entirely off the www.di.fm streaming radio stations or my server PC if an unlimited GPRS bundle was made available. I'd even pay £20-30 per month for this service (more than my 512k/256kbit ADSL connection costs!) if it were made available. (my music means this much to me) What do other people think of this? would you pay for this?
Guest nickcornaglia Posted September 19, 2003 Report Posted September 19, 2003 When I had T-Mobile in the US...I pain US$19.99/mobth...a very nice price. Now that I am under Verizon...I pay US$45.00/month for unlimited data. But I find it very useful for retreiving mail automatically every 15 minutes. If I had a choice...I would think that $25.00/month would be fair.
Guest Chief Posted September 19, 2003 Report Posted September 19, 2003 There is currently an unlimited GPRS package on Orange targetted mostly at business users I believe. I had it confirmed that there really IS no limit, and was all ready to take it for a month when I found out about the free Mobile Email promotion and took that instead. The unlimited package would have been £45/month...
Guest Bazz Posted September 19, 2003 Report Posted September 19, 2003 Not sure I'd pay that much. Granted it's mobile so should maybe be more that standard dial up, but it isn't anywhere near as fast a broadband so don't think it should be charged on similar rate. I think I'd be willing to pay up to £15 at a pinch. Don't use that much data at the minute, but would use it more if it was unmetered. I haven't had much use for Messenger since the unlimited offer ended :-( Also depends if there are limits on it. Although I'm not a bandwith hogger, the lower (and stricter) the limits the less I'd be willing to pay.
Guest chucky.egg Posted September 19, 2003 Report Posted September 19, 2003 The unlimited package ... £45/month... £45! No chance. I know thats a business package, but even so... GPRS is not that reliable (around my area anywhere) and the speed isn't great any more. In the days of dial-up it was nice, but things have moved on. I reckon £15-£25 for truly unlimited use (I'd probably only use 15-30Mb a month though)
Guest Crispy Posted September 20, 2003 Report Posted September 20, 2003 Yes, around £25 for Unlimited use would be fair ;)
Guest morpheus2702 Posted September 20, 2003 Report Posted September 20, 2003 It was before I got my SPV and joined Orange, but what did the old £4/month 'unlimited' GPRS deal get you?
Guest blewer Posted September 21, 2003 Report Posted September 21, 2003 It was £6/month and although it said it was unlimited you could only really use 10mb per month or they would see it as abuse and cut you off ;)
Guest MARKUKCOUK Posted September 21, 2003 Report Posted September 21, 2003 thing is, i still have the unlimited GPRS pack, except im not charged for it. For the past few months i seem to have had free unlimited GPRS :s
Guest Maverick Posted September 21, 2003 Report Posted September 21, 2003 What is the max connection speed that you can reach with GPRS??
Guest chucky.egg Posted September 21, 2003 Report Posted September 21, 2003 Last time I checked (with a pocketPC, IrDA connection, and a T68i) the best speed I actually got was between 24-30kbps. I very rarely got over 30kbps
Guest blackhorse Posted September 21, 2003 Report Posted September 21, 2003 I think £15-20 for fair usage of 100-150mb is fair! ;)
Guest morpheus2702 Posted September 21, 2003 Report Posted September 21, 2003 But surely it's time for Orange to wake up to the fact that people do not like metred access! Pay a monthly fee for as much or as little use as you want, sure, but access where you are limited to an amount of data or time... it's just (or should be) ancient history!
Guest Bazz Posted September 21, 2003 Report Posted September 21, 2003 I dunno. Economically totally unmetered access is difficult to offer for an acceptable price. I'm not too against high-usage caps (providing they aren't too low and the caps and prices are made clear). Think about it. Orange could offer toally unmetered access, but cause some people would go mental on it they'd probably have to charge something like £45 for it (as they apparently do now). Or they could offer, say 50Mb for £15. If both of these were offered I reckon more people would go for the 50Mb option (I know I would).
Guest morpheus2702 Posted September 21, 2003 Report Posted September 21, 2003 Yup, but it is a balance between what Orange would gain £-wise from the offer, and those people that would take the piss using such an offer. Think about it - how much data can you seriously get through in a month using your handset? At best you are only going to get 40kbps data transfer, so it's not even a substitute for a dial-up connection, never mind broadband. Sure, streaming this, streaming that... but how much is the typical user going to wait for that 10MB file to download? Unless I have grossly misjudged the situation, Orange would gain far more revenue by a flat-rate scheme than they would lose by those high-data users?
Guest beersoft Posted September 21, 2003 Report Posted September 21, 2003 morpheus2702 is right. with most unmetered internet, you will get people like me, who didint know the rx light flashed on the adsl router ;) and download 22gig in 8 days, then you have the people who use the internet for 5 hour a week, and 3 at the weekend and download a 100meg in a month if they are lucky. orange should do maybe 4 unmetered packages, a wap /email one giving 5 - 10 meg a month for say £5 a normal user package giving 20 - 50 meg for £15 and a high user package giving 50 - 100 meg for £25 and a unlimited one for say £40 and if they manage the 3+ gig you might beable to transfer via gprs in a month , there address to us so we can give them a kicking :evil: for having nothing better to do just my 2p on the matter. later Owen "unlimited gprs... hmmm...where is my newsgroup software"
Guest Crispy Posted September 22, 2003 Report Posted September 22, 2003 a wap /email one giving 5 - 10 meg a month for say £5 a normal user package giving 20 - 50 meg for £15 and a high user package giving 50 - 100 meg for £25 and a unlimited one for say £40 Sounds like a perfect idea to me! ;)
Guest morpheus2702 Posted September 22, 2003 Report Posted September 22, 2003 Definitely a good idea - that £5 deal would be ideal for me. Mr Orange - are you taking note? :wink:
Guest chucky.egg Posted September 22, 2003 Report Posted September 22, 2003 orange should do maybe 4 unmetered packages, a wap /email one giving 5 - 10 meg a month for say £5 a normal user package giving 20 - 50 meg for £15 and a high user package giving 50 - 100 meg for £25 But "5 - 10 meg a month" etc isnt unmetered, it's 5-10 meg a month! What you are basically asking for is CHEAPER GPRS, which we'd all sign the petition for but Orange wont be in any hurry to do it. GPRS is taking off nowadays, so they're keeping the price up to pay for 3G What would the GPRS pricing have been if they HADNT spent FOUR BILLION pounds on something they still haven't launched?
Guest beersoft Posted September 22, 2003 Report Posted September 22, 2003 Its unlimited in the eyes of BT ;) 150 hours a month pahh!!! 10 meg is unlimited if the gprs gets stuck dialing half the time. my idea is still good as unlimited packages go, 5 meg is a lot of wap pages ( off the top of my head, a wap page is a max 1kb =5120 pages without nasty wbmp files) just about unlimited :D if for your 5-10 quid a month on the wap/email package you where in the lovely 3 style walled garden using O's email service and wap gateway, your average joe would go "cool, i can use as much wappness and email as i like for my 3/6 pints of beer this is costing me" and it is unlimited, its cost orange bugger all, as joe hasn't left the network, and the phone would have been talking to the cell anyway. apart from the investment in the network + upstream bandwith, gprs is pretty much FOC compaired to voice, with all the we interconnect charges and crap like that. i don't think orange in a million years are going to say "here, abuse the network, download as much as you can" thats what dsl/cablemodems are for, wireless data needs to be cheaper, else noone is going to use the 3g network stuff when it comes out. orange should have better price bands for the gprs 1,2,4,7,15 just don't cut it when you use gprs, 1,5,15,30,80 are better ill shut up now :lol: later Owen sorry, bad day!
Guest drblow Posted September 22, 2003 Report Posted September 22, 2003 I can't for the life of me understand why anybody would pay more for gprs access on a phone than you would for your home PC. I don't think Orange should even think about unlimited access until the gprs network actually works - there would be no chance of me getting on ever!! ;) Anything I could say about what packages I think would be better would simply translate to 'I want a discount!'. I think gprs is ludicrously overpriced anyway - but since mine hardly ever connects, I find the 2MB bundle usually hits the spot. And I can't see them making that any cheaper!! :cry:
Guest blewer Posted September 22, 2003 Report Posted September 22, 2003 £5 for 5-10 meg sounds perfect :wink: Not sure it would happen though.
Guest Yousaf Posted September 23, 2003 Report Posted September 23, 2003 £10 may be £15 at a push for unlimited gprs access id say but i dont see it happening as if they do a cheap deal on current gsm networks, it would make it harder to sell data services on 3g networks that will initially be expensive i presume.
Guest Coucou Posted September 23, 2003 Report Posted September 23, 2003 I can't for the life of me understand why anybody would pay more for gprs access on a phone than you would for your home PC. It's cheaper to use the GPRS on your phone than it is to buy a PC, I only have a PC at work so the SPV is vital for my leisure internet use.
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