Guest grifter Posted September 29, 2003 Report Share Posted September 29, 2003 @diamond, how much improvement in battery life are you experiencing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest a_lawas Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 Nope. You can't upgrade or downgrade to any ROM, to smart rom 1.3 included, without replacing the 1.04 bootloader 1st. thanks man :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sonborj Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 this has been discussed here and the verdict is that the SAP cannot be overcharged! there's a built-in mechanism that prevents it and it's better to charge lithium ion batteries before they are fully discharged, unlike nickle cadmium batteries, they don't have "memory". and they wear out faster if you deeply discharged them. Regarding Batteries, i think this applies to all types as long as it has battery cells..... That is YOU SHOULD USE UP ALL CELLS BEFORE YOU FILL THE CELLS AGAIN. or in simple terms, BETTER NA I-EMPTY BAT talaga before charging. When you always charge kasi, some cells arent used up ang later on it gets damaged dahil the stored energy in that cell weakens. Am not so technical in this but from experience, mas tumatagal ang bat pack ko kapag naempty bat b4 charge ko siya lagi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dinoalbert Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 you might regret doing that habit of totally emptying your batt before charging again. That only applies to batteries that has memory effect such as NiCd batts but for our batterries Li-Ion or Li-Polymer, you dont need to drain it first because these kinds of batts dont have memory effects. If you drain them more often, the battery life will shorten more easily. I think I have posted this already before....anyway here it is again: http://www.pocketpcpassion.com/General/Gen...Q.htm#Battery;% 20When%20is%20it%20best%20to%20recharge%20the%20it? Battery; When is it best to recharge the it? Who better to ask then GSBattery who manufactures Li-Ion cells? I received this answer to my question; Dear Dale, Lithium ion does not suffer from any ill effects from constant charging. However, in general, it is best to keep the battery charged up when ever possible. You see, battery cycle life is shortened by deep discharging, meaning that if you discharge the battery fully, that has a greater long-term ill effect on the battery than if you discharged it only 50% and then recharged it. The best way to maximize the life of your cell is to avoid deep discharges in general. Best of luck, David Sugrue GS Battery (USA) Inc. This is the answer to the previous post suggesting the draining of the battery occasionally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest elr Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 And if you drain the battery and wasn't able to charge it sooner, it will cause your phone to revert to its hard reset state.. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BrAGoL Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 hehehe... ;) the dreaded Hard Reset :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest grifter Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 yes, dino is right. in addition, the chemical composition of li-ion and li-pi batteries are different from ni-cd and ni-mh. If you fully drain (deep discharges) the li-ion and li-pi batts, they will wear out sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest binky_p Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 pati ba batteries kelangan ding i-hard reset? :?: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diamondsnake Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 @grifter, it lasts for almost two days kung wala masyadong gamit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kettch Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 Hi I tried to upgrade my ROM from the SMART 1.5 to the IMATE but got a not recognized version error. Is there anyway around this? Thanks for your help in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dinoalbert Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 Smart 1.50 is really a headache....you need to downgrade first your rom to Smart 1.3.7 before upgrading again to iMate or Qtek. they're talking about batterries here.... try to post in the appropriate thread :wink: try here: http://smartphone.modaco.com/viewtopic.php?t=88509 or here: http://smartphone.modaco.com/viewtopic.php...der=asc&start=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geeklord Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 may I add that it is also dangerous to overcharge your battery--to keep it plugged in after it has fully charged. I usually charge my battery everynight, and in some cases I would fall asleep while it is charging. Hence it will be left plugged for the entire night. the result was that my usb cable shorted around where it attatches to the phone. The result was that it wouldn't charge the phone anymore. I had to get a new cable. It was a good thing my SAP wasn't damaged. from my experience it takes the SAP around 1 to 2 hours (tops) to recharge from total drain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rodnav Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 @geeklord, maybe there was a faulty connection with your usb cable? i've no problems with my SAP charging overnight or even the whole day. Posted from my SmartPhone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest adi116 Posted September 30, 2003 Report Share Posted September 30, 2003 In charging, I beleive there's a proper sequence of connection between the phone, usb sync and charger. I usually connect the "charging accessories" with the phone first before plugging (or energizing) the charger. Because I believe, the charger is more capable of handling "high in-rush current" that maybe damaging to the usb sync or the phone itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest virgil Posted October 1, 2003 Report Share Posted October 1, 2003 As per confirmation with friends in Microsoft. They said that its ok to charge the phone whenever possible--overcharging would not affect the hardware and software capabilities--it is equiped with internal power manager that monitors the phones battery capacity. This functionality stops the DC connector to transmit power supply to the battery. so we shouldn't worry about overcharging. My friend even suggested to plug in my phone to a power supply when synchronizing, accessing GPRS, listening to Music MP3 , downloading /connecting to laptop etc. this will help the SAP to replenish the used power. Treat your SAP just like your regualar Laptop/notebook. ciao Baby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lonerjam Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 so if the battery usually lasts a day and a half how many of you guys carry a spare? im planning to buy one kasi and im just thinking if its practical to own a spare. so that you dont have to worry about having a low batt when you want to play games, listen to your media player and watch some trailers. thanks. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chibako Posted October 3, 2003 Report Share Posted October 3, 2003 so if the battery usually lasts a day and a half how many of you guys carry a spare? im planning to buy one kasi and im just thinking if its practical to own a spare. so that you dont have to worry about having a low batt when you want to play games, listen to your media player and watch some trailers. thanks. Â :D well it really depends on you... if most of the time you're in the office, you could just bring your charger like I do. But if you are always on the go, you could just get a car charger(if you drive your car, syempre! ;)) or the next option, getting a spare battery. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest adi116 Posted October 25, 2003 Report Share Posted October 25, 2003 Is it true that there are batteries for our SAP being sold at smart wireless centers which lasts for 3 days? Just want to confirm the rumors I've heard before spending 1,500.00 para sa isang araw (or in my case 18 hours) battery life. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chia_7285 Posted October 25, 2003 Report Share Posted October 25, 2003 As for me, most of the time I bring my charger with me and every chance I get when I'm stationary I plug in my charger to charge my phone and evry night before I sleep it is left charging. Never had any problems though. @virgil Nice avatar Bro..... eli. ALIEN??!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zxt Posted October 25, 2003 Report Share Posted October 25, 2003 This is really an issue, my SPV usually last 17 to 20 hours of battery life. I just got my SPV last week and my ROM is the latest version 1.6.0.8 and I dont think theres even a slight improvement in battery life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TTT Posted October 27, 2003 Report Share Posted October 27, 2003 is there really a battery that will last me three days..??? is it really available in the smart wireless center...??? It would help me alot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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