Guest Simon Desser Posted October 9, 2003 Report Posted October 9, 2003 A "final" version of PocketMusic has been released by PocketMind on Handango and is no longer free. It is now version 1.0, (not 0.98) so the big question is, does it work :?: The free version used to stutter terribly, making it almost useless :cry: hopefully, this has now been resolved :?: Final version of Music Player for Smartphone released 8/10/03 - Today PocketMind released PocketMusic for Smartphone version 1.0. The player is compatible with Orange SPV, Mio 8380, Motorola MPX-200, Qtek 7070. "PocketMusic for Smartphone" is the first alternative player for Windows Powered Smartphone devices. PocketMusic turns Windows Powered Smartphone into a great portable music player. Key features: MP3, OGG Vobis, MP1, MP2 support Advanced Playlist Editor Hardware keys mapping options 10-band equalizer 18 presets for equalizer (Dance, Headphones, Live, Pop, Rock, others) Extra-Bass feature Bookmarks feature which allows you to listen to the audiobooks, recordered radio programs, lectures, DJ sets on your Smartphone "Local content loading from specified folder" option Various repeat and shuffle modes It's available to try/buy at Handango for $19.99
Guest Gorskar Posted October 9, 2003 Report Posted October 9, 2003 No trial version, so I don't want to be the mug who pays $19.95 only to find out that the stuttering hasn't been fixed. If anyone else wants to do so however and post your experience by all means feel free. We would appreciate your comments!
Guest Simon Desser Posted October 9, 2003 Report Posted October 9, 2003 No trial version, so I don't want to be the mug who pays $19.95 only to find out that the stuttering hasn't been fixed. I've emailed PocketMind this morning to ask them if the stuttering has been fixed in this new version, and if they'll make a trial available :?: I'll let you know if and when they reply.
Guest chucky.egg Posted October 9, 2003 Report Posted October 9, 2003 Trial is available at Handango (I think that original link was knackered) Go to Home and browse back to it. I've installed the trial and if I dont enter the code it says I only get to use the trial version for 76665164 more days! :? ;) The good news is that it doesn't stutter any more, the bad news is that it doesn't stutter because it doesn't actually play the tracks in the first place. I'm not sure this is a step forward.
Guest Gorskar Posted October 9, 2003 Report Posted October 9, 2003 Ok, I've updated the link. Kind of messed up if the music doesnt play though! Lets see what happens on my phone...
Guest Simon Desser Posted October 9, 2003 Report Posted October 9, 2003 Trial is available at Handango (I think that original link was knackered) Go to Home and browse back to it. Cheers Chris, I've changed the link now so it includes the trial ;)
Guest chucky.egg Posted October 9, 2003 Report Posted October 9, 2003 it doesn't actually play the tracks in the first place. Ahh, it appears I'm even stupider than my parents first thought. It DOES play MP3s, but it doesn't play WMA even though it lists them (they never said it would - but I forgot I converted all my files to WMA!) :oops: Sorry!
Guest Simon Desser Posted October 9, 2003 Report Posted October 9, 2003 Lol ;) Does it still stutter?
Guest chucky.egg Posted October 9, 2003 Report Posted October 9, 2003 No stuttering yet! Trying MP3s at the moment, will try some OGGs this afternoon [update] Just as I typed that it started stuttering! I've got 61% used with PocketMusic, Calendar, Contacts, Resco Explorer and Programs open [/update]
Guest Simon Desser Posted October 9, 2003 Report Posted October 9, 2003 I've only tried it with Oggs at 64Kb/s. It stutters a lot less than the old version, and the equalizer and extra bass seem to work without killing the phone ;) The main problem is that the phone virtually grinds to a halt when playing a song. If you leave a song running and go back to the homescreen and lock the keypad (I do this all the time with WMPlayer) it takes about 2 minutes just to unlock the keypad and open PocketMusic again to stop the song :cry: (@ Chris.orton, what bitrates are your mp3's encoded at?)
Guest maxh2003 Posted October 9, 2003 Report Posted October 9, 2003 Simon - have you checked in Menu -> Options -> General -> Disable equalizer for Ogg, to make sure the check box is empty and therefore the equaliser's enabled for Oggs? I just enabled it on 72kbps Oggs, and my phone virtually froze when I restarted playback. Can't check whether it stutters cos headphones aren't allowed in my office :roll: but I too can "continue using trial version of PocketMusic for 76665164 more days" (= 209,000 years). Maybe it's now nagware, i.e. if you don't pay for it you can continue to use it, but it'll nag you on startup?
Guest Simon Desser Posted October 9, 2003 Report Posted October 9, 2003 I'm being a total idiot! The songs I've tried are mp3's at 128kbs not Oggs! I'll try some oggs soon. Posted from my SmartPhone!
Guest Simon Desser Posted October 9, 2003 Report Posted October 9, 2003 Good news ;) Just tried some Oggs at 64kb/s, and there was NO STUTTERING whatsoever :D Also the phone was slow, but perfectly useable. If they included playback for WMA's (like their Pocket PC version) I'd happily spend money on it! Posted from my SmartPhone!
Guest chucky.egg Posted October 9, 2003 Report Posted October 9, 2003 Good news ;) Just tried some Oggs at 64kb/s, and there was NO STUTTERING Same here, although I've only tried a couple and with over 50% free mem Also much quicker to stop if you switch screens.
Guest chucky.egg Posted October 10, 2003 Report Posted October 10, 2003 Trying some OGGs (converted from MP3s at 70kb) and it stutters again! I'm looking for a PC based ogg player so I can check it's not the conversion thats causing it. Any recommendations? At the moment I'd say its a bit better, but on average it still stutters once per 2 tracks played.
Guest chucky.egg Posted October 10, 2003 Report Posted October 10, 2003 I'm looking for a PC based ogg player so I can check it's not the conversion thats causing it. Any recommendations? Tried playing the same OGGs on the PC and they're fine. I can't free up much more memory (already removed several apps I only use from time to time), and anyway I generally have at least 40% free resources. Back to WMP for me I think.
Guest fraser Posted October 10, 2003 Report Posted October 10, 2003 Any plans to include wma support? I currently convert my mp3s (mostly +192k) to 64kbit/s wma files for use on my phone, so I'd only really be interested in this if it could handle them. Or, are 64kbit/s ogg files decent? How is ogg at low bitrates?
Guest maxh2003 Posted October 10, 2003 Report Posted October 10, 2003 Any plans to include wma support? I think there are licensing problems with WMA support :evil: I still get stuttering on my 70-75kbps Oggs, though possibly not as much. But, to me it seems much better at running in the background. Listening to music while websurfing worked very well for me today (though there was still an occasional stutter). :edit: IIRC, Oggs and WMAs are supposed to be roughly equivalent in terms of quality-versus-bitrate. Anyone?
Guest fraser Posted October 10, 2003 Report Posted October 10, 2003 Cool, damn licenses. I will give 64k ogg a blast just out of spite for MS!! OSS and all that. :wink:
Guest Simon Desser Posted October 10, 2003 Report Posted October 10, 2003 are 64kbit/s ogg files decent? How is ogg at low bitrates? Oggs are arguably every bit as good as WMA at low bitrates (64Kb/s) some people would say they're better. But like you, I've converted dozens of CD's and 100's of mp3's into WMA format ;) However, the Pocket PC version of PocketMusic supports WMA, so I'd like to think it might be an option for future versions?
Guest fraser Posted October 10, 2003 Report Posted October 10, 2003 Fortunatly, nothing in my main library is wma, it's all mp3 and more recently ogg & mpc (mpeg plus). I only used 64k wma because 64k mp3 sucked. I don't mind re-encodeing for the phone, I'll take the extra space for more tunes anyday!
Guest Myke Posted October 10, 2003 Report Posted October 10, 2003 i wonder how well this program works with the spv2
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