Guest nickcornaglia Posted October 30, 2003 Report Posted October 30, 2003 Thanks to links provided by a member at SmartphoneThoughts.com these photos were found on Verizon's/Samsung's Training site that shows store reps how to use new and upcoming phones. Not the prettiest phone of the bunch...but it's very exciting to see the another Smartphone emerge...especially one so eagerly anticipated by many US Verizon CDMA Netowrk users....like ME!i600pics.zipi600-07.jpgi600-06.jpgi600-05.jpgi600-04.jpgi600-03.jpgi600-02.jpgi600-01.jpg
Guest nickcornaglia Posted October 30, 2003 Report Posted October 30, 2003 The 1X is the 1xRTT data network symbol. The next icon to the right of that is GPS Positioning. (Transmitter not receiver)
Guest morpheus2702 Posted October 30, 2003 Report Posted October 30, 2003 Is it in the Smartphone specification that phones must be unnecessarily repulsive? OK I'm sure you'll never break that hinge, but when you compare it to the latest Samsungs... yuck! :roll:
Guest midnight Posted October 30, 2003 Report Posted October 30, 2003 the main problem for this phone is its being released after the mpx200, which, lets face it, is a much prettier phone and has higher spcs.
Guest nickcornaglia Posted October 30, 2003 Report Posted October 30, 2003 True...very true. But there are more people on Verizon than ATT in the US. GSM is a fairly new service for ATT as well....as I believe they are still converting over. I still think it will do well, despite it's shortcomings.
Guest [email protected] Posted October 30, 2003 Report Posted October 30, 2003 Midnight: Don't they work on incompatible networks, GSM/CDMA?
Guest nickcornaglia Posted October 30, 2003 Report Posted October 30, 2003 Sorry to answer for Midnight.... Yes, two incompatible networks. The question is.... will people still want to move over from Veriozon to ATT because they have nicer phones? I'm one of those who moved to GSM for the newer nicer phones and regretted it. But I am not representative of everyone. Also, The US will begin number portability this year on Nov 24th, I believe. Which means you'll be able to keep your phone number when switching to different carriers. Many havn't switched in the past because they didn't want to change their number. Now that they will be able to....you may see a large number of people switching form one carrier to another. Things will be shaken up a bit here in the US...we'll see who wins in the end.
Guest [email protected] Posted October 30, 2003 Report Posted October 30, 2003 Encece: How does GSM compare (coverage wise) to CDMA over there? Is GSM still "new" in USA? Here in Europe people are yappin' over the incoming 3G network, do You have that? Sorry for drifting off topic.
Guest rtim98 Posted October 30, 2003 Report Posted October 30, 2003 I have noticed that none of the Samsung/Verizon literature seems to put 2002 or 2003 after stating that the OS on the phone is "Windows Smartphone". Is there any chance that this phone will come out with 2003?
Guest Brody Posted October 30, 2003 Report Posted October 30, 2003 I would say no seeing as the screenshots show the word "Programs" instead of "Start" as is evident on all Windows Mobile 2003 screenshots, sorry :)
Guest nickcornaglia Posted October 30, 2003 Report Posted October 30, 2003 Here are some coverage maps. GSM is good in metropolitan areas...but not much elsewhere. Verizon still rules in the US as far as coverge and reception....IMO.v.gift.jpgc.gifa.jpg
Guest [email protected] Posted October 30, 2003 Report Posted October 30, 2003 Thank You for the maps encece, very interesting. Is GSM better than CDMA? They're both digital, right? Are you able to roam between the different carriers' GSM networks, utilizing all coverage? Is 3G coming to the US? UMTS, I think they call it over here. Would be nice to see a global standard in the future. The tri-band thing on GSM was due to radiobands being reserved for military or other purposes around the world.
Guest nickcornaglia Posted October 30, 2003 Report Posted October 30, 2003 You can roam thru GSM Networks. In fact...they mostly share the networks anyway in most places. Sorry....I dont know about 3G, if it's coming, or when.
Guest soccerwrek Posted October 31, 2003 Report Posted October 31, 2003 GSM has had a slow acceptance in the US. It started with regional providers (e.g. Southeast US's first provider was Powertel PCS). Then national accounts bought out the regionals (e.g. VoiceStream bought out Powertel). Then T-Mobile came in and bought out VoiceStream. So, the GSM infrastructure was sort of dependent on what the original regionals put in plus what the nationals and T-Mobile did for expansion. Powertel was big in the Southeast and that's why you'll see that the coverage for T-Mobile is better there. I switched to GSM a long time ago (probably around 1997) because I wasn't concerned about coverage in rural areas as I live in a large metro area. I was lured to GSM because the monthly fees were cheaper, and they did not require me to sign any sort of contract. That's not to say they don't do it now (e.g. contracts), but back in 1997 they weren't doing that. Kind of hard to compare GSM to CDMA. It's easier to compare the carriers and their coverage area. So, obviously Verizon has the better coverage, but as far as their service is concerned I couldn't really tell you. I have heard complaints about coverage and customer service with T-Mobile in the US, but I have never had any problems with them. I haven't heard or read any news of what the US will do with regards to 3G. Because so many carriers are now adding GSM, I doubt we will see 3G networks anytime soon due to cost of the infrastructure upgrade/conversion. The carriers struggle here because there is so much competition and with the advent of the Number Portability Act here, it's going to be even tougher on them as they will have to come up with new services to keep existing customers from leaving and to attract new ones.
Guest yoos Posted October 31, 2003 Report Posted October 31, 2003 Just my opinions for whatever they're worth... I agree with soccerwrek and encece that Verizon has the best coverage in the US. I tried verizon for a very short time and liked the customer service, but I just couldn't find a phone I liked so I stayed with T-Mobile. I live in the southeast (Florida) and my reception is pretty good here as soccerwrek mentioned. I've also had very good dealings with customer support on T-Mobile. I would recommend T-Mobile for people living in the Florida Tampa Bay area anyways... Is 3G a different technology altogether (like GSM and CDMA) or is 3G just a term for video and other multimedia streaming from the net to your phone regardless of the technology? I THOUGHT I heard Florin say that CDMA is geared more towards 3G instead of GSM (not his exact words, but that's the way I took it from what I remember... again, if I'm remembering correctly).... I could investigate this and probably find the answer, but I'm just wondering if someone knew off the top of their head... A really good site I've found that discusses wireless stuff in the US in general is www.wirelessadvisor.com . Their forum discusses the different technologies and different carriers/phones. It's a good site! Not as good as this one when it comes to MS Smartphone/Windows Mobile 2003, but a good one for the other stuff...
Guest [email protected] Posted October 31, 2003 Report Posted October 31, 2003 Thank You for your replies guys, again good stuff. 3G is a nickname (3:rd generation) for the new radio technology UMTS that provides up to 2Mbit theoretical speed with stationary client. Normal speed though, is estimated at something like 100-400 kbit. I've also heard mentioned as WCDMA, maybe this is the US version?
Guest aristoBrat Posted November 2, 2003 Report Posted November 2, 2003 The 1X is the 1xRTT data network symbol. The next icon to the right of that is GPS Positioning. (Transmitter not receiver) I know that GSM networks use GPRS for data, ... do all CMDA networks use 1xRTT for data?
Guest nickcornaglia Posted November 2, 2003 Report Posted November 2, 2003 Yes. Until something faster comes along.
Guest aristoBrat Posted November 2, 2003 Report Posted November 2, 2003 Yes. Until something faster comes along. Think Sprint will offer an i600 since they're CDMA and offer Samsung equipment too? Their monthly plans seem more reasonable. :)
Guest nickcornaglia Posted November 3, 2003 Report Posted November 3, 2003 I dont know....they have yet to pickup the i700 PPC Phone Edition which I thought they would right away.
Guest nickcornaglia Posted November 3, 2003 Report Posted November 3, 2003 More pics of the i600. Slow to load. The phone isn't as ugly when you see REAL pics. The buttons seem silver and not white as I thought. And they light up BLUE....my favorite. But look at the screen. It seems to be drowning in it's housing. Why is the phone so damn wide when it doesnt need to be? <<< CLICK HERE TO SEE PICS >>>
Guest nickcornaglia Posted November 3, 2003 Report Posted November 3, 2003 Here are some more pics...next to my current phone....the i700. <<< CLICK HERE >>>
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