WHAT were they thinking? (no closing apps thingy)

[Guest ranzz]

I gotta ask this. I mean - I've been using the SPV for a while now, I'm loving it, using Quickclose and Taskmanager, they aren't problematic. but I just can't understand what Microsoft were thinking by making their flagship smartphones operating system so stupid it can't even close apps? which of course makes most developers not build an "exit" option in their app.

Are they just stupid? Was it intentional? there must be a reason for this madness.

Am I missing something here? It's just so hard to comprehend! are they trying to get us back to the Dos days? so we have to push the restart button on our box in order to quit a game?

[Guest stu_lowe2003]

It has always been the same for pocket pc. However in the E200 you get a taskmanager app already installed, can simply select stop all within that.

Stu

[Guest midnight]

not really, it makes sense, going back to applications that are already open is much faster, the os automatically closes apps if ram is getting low, but as it is, sleeping apps 'should' take virtuallyno ram and no processor speed away. :lol:

i actually kind of agree that it shouldnt actually NEED to be a requirement (it isnt really, its only if you must have Microsoft logo Certification, which isnt essential unless you wanna be on Microsofts Catalog), but hey, it does no hard in general

[Guest Greywolf_Ghost]

MS calls it Smart Minamize.

I am suprised, is there not something in Settings like PPC?

You can close all running apps from there by tapping on stop all.

[Guest amo]

For a phone this shouldn't be needed. Theoretically. However, in practice what microsoft seem to have overlooked is that it doesnt happen with real applications. They dont always close when theyre told to by pressing the back button and they always seem to make an impact on available resources. However, it does seem that the 2003 system works a lot better with memory management (perhaps as theres more physically in the device thats running the os probably) so the problem shouldnt persist with future smartphones.

[Guest ranzz]

So you're saying that when I "quit" a program (or rather minimize it / put it in the backround) it *shouldn't* take as much memory as it's taking when it's in front (when I'm using it)?

And in practice? is that the deal or is it far from being implemented?

[Guest midnight]

yes, when you levae an app, it should 'sleep' and use very few system resources, however, there are some apps out there that feature bad programming and dont sleep correctly, but these havent been microsoft certified :lol:

like i said, these are just guidelines, apps can have qui if they want to, and our gaes will certainly have a quit, but, if you want them Microsoft logo certified then you shouldnt use a quit option and sleep should be correctly implemented.

[Guest rayloh]

i have the impression that both smartphone and pocketpc platforms are by design 'multi-tasking', which explain why the apps do not close when you switch to another tasks. of course some apps would have an explicit 'quit' menu, or one can use apps like task manager to close running tasks.

[Guest Greywolf_Ghost]

I think Microsoft is at fault. They presume people like Smart Minimize, or they wish to mandate it.

I have had my Casio E-125 now for a long time ( PPC 2000 ), and the first app I installed was a Task switch/closer.

When I added Pocket Facelift to my PDAs I was very very happy to have the close app built in to it.

I wonder if Novosec is going to jump into the smartphone market and add improvments to the SP GUI.

:lol: Added the inqury to the Novosec forum.

Novosec Forum Question

[Guest fraser]

yes, when you levae an app, it should 'sleep' and use very few system resources, however, there are some apps out there that feature bad programming and dont sleep correctly, but these havent been microsoft certified :lol:

But as there is no swap file on the SPV, surely a "sleeping" app will still be using the same amount of memory? Most seem decent at not hogging the CPU when not in use, but to be honest, memory is more of an issue, especially with the first-gen smartphones with limited RAM.

[Guest nixy]

What about MS pocket ie, and Pocket Windows Media Player....and for that matter even with inbox!!!!!

Manually closing the lot via taskman etc will most certainly improve vastly the stability of newer run applications. Windows Media Player will run a great deal better if ieexplorer is closed completely and visaversa. There is too little ram in SPV to have put this idea into action. Hence en-mass hatred....?

Personally I think its a dreadful idea that has fallen by the wayside.

At the end of the day if it is indead down to a design thats only workable in practice when used with default OS software then its borderline monopolisation........surely!"!? :evil:

Only..........in the twilight zone..... :roll:

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nixy