Guest Dectomax Posted December 5, 2003 Report Posted December 5, 2003 Hi all, Silly question really, just intrigued. When using the camera on the E200, if you turn the phone through 180 degrees, the picture stays upright. :shock: I've had my phone for 2 weeks now and never noticed. My question is..... How's it done ?? Anybody know?? :lol: Cheers.
Guest Syphon Filter Posted December 5, 2003 Report Posted December 5, 2003 what the hell are you on about...of course it stays upright...the light that hits the CCD is still coming from the same place...think about what u are saying! You are turning the camera, not the scenery
Guest AFC MAGIC Posted December 5, 2003 Report Posted December 5, 2003 but wait, if you turn the camera on the Samsung V200 to face you, the picture is upside down. I don't know anything about cameras and how they work, this is just what i noticed.
Guest Syphon Filter Posted December 5, 2003 Report Posted December 5, 2003 Now that is weird, not seen that myself...that must be something to do with either the datalines not getting remapped corretly when u turn the lens (think of a camcorder with LCD screen that flips. The image is always up right). Or its done in software and the data processing deals with the image. Think about when u look thru the lens of a camera, turning the camera does not make the image turn with it.
Guest Dectomax Posted December 5, 2003 Report Posted December 5, 2003 what the hell are you on about...of course it stays upright...the light that hits the CCD is still coming from the same place...think about what u are saying! You are turning the camera, not the scenery Ok Ok Smartarse. Wot happens when you turn a video camera upside down then?? The picture goes upside down too.!!
Guest Syphon Filter Posted December 5, 2003 Report Posted December 5, 2003 Erm....not on the ones i have used...if ur looking at a tree and u turn the camcorder thru 90 degree the tree will not be shown on the screen as being on its side as it where. it only looks like that because when u replay it you are looking at it as though the camera was level when recorded. If you turned the screen to the same orientation as the camera was when u did the recording it would look normal.
Guest Syphon Filter Posted December 5, 2003 Report Posted December 5, 2003 Take a picture of a glass with the phone the right way up and save it. Now take the same pic with the phone upside down. Now look at both pics with the camera in the same orientation as when u took the each respective pic.
Guest Dectomax Posted December 5, 2003 Report Posted December 5, 2003 Try it with a webcam then............... :? Whichever way you look at it, if you turn a ccd through 90 degrees, the image strikes the ccd at 90 degrees difference from how the image was originally striking the ccd before you turned it. I appreciate the scenary isn't moving as you pointed out earlier but with respect to the original orientation of camera and scene, the image is 90 degrees out. My question was how does the softwarehardware re-adjust the image to compensate for the ccd being turned!!
Guest Syphon Filter Posted December 5, 2003 Report Posted December 5, 2003 with the webcam the viewer (ie the monitor) is not moving with the CCD. With ur phone and a camcorder its all moving together. If u turned the monitor thru 90 as well then my statement would be true
Guest morpheus2702 Posted December 5, 2003 Report Posted December 5, 2003 The V200 uses a rotating camera. Hence it will be the right way up facing outwards - rotate it through 180 degrees to face you and it will be the wrong way up.
Guest idavid Posted December 5, 2003 Report Posted December 5, 2003 this is the funniest topic ever!!!!! :lol: :D :)
Guest Coucou Posted December 5, 2003 Report Posted December 5, 2003 Did the Earth move for you Dectomax? :lol:
Guest fozzie Posted December 5, 2003 Report Posted December 5, 2003 Try it with a webcam then............... :? Whichever way you look at it, if you turn a ccd through 90 degrees, the image strikes the ccd at 90 degrees difference from how the image was originally striking the ccd before you turned it. I appreciate the scenary isn't moving as you pointed out earlier but with respect to the original orientation of camera and scene, the image is 90 degrees out. My question was how does the softwarehardware re-adjust the image to compensate for the ccd being turned!! It's the hardware that does the compensation - the rotation of the viewfinder is very carefully and perfectly synchronised with the rotation of the camera. Mechanical alignment is constantly maintained. The clever bit is how this achieved. I am able to reveal, here and now, the very technical solution ..................................................... they're joined together :lol: #-o ](*,)
Guest spacecowboy6982 Posted December 5, 2003 Report Posted December 5, 2003 this is the funniest topic ever!!!!! :lol: :D :) I'll second that :D Off topic anyone, lol :?:
Guest Maverick Posted December 5, 2003 Report Posted December 5, 2003 What the hell is going on here??
Guest scottt Posted December 5, 2003 Report Posted December 5, 2003 So taking a upside down picture is out of the question unless you edit it l8ter ?? e.g turn photo upside down
Guest fozzie Posted December 5, 2003 Report Posted December 5, 2003 What the hell is going on here?? What the hell's going on where :?:
Guest fozzie Posted December 5, 2003 Report Posted December 5, 2003 So taking a upside down picture is out of the question unless you edit it l8ter ?? e.g turn photo upside down You can take a picture in whatever orientation you want :?
Guest Pondrew Posted December 6, 2003 Report Posted December 6, 2003 Guys, thanks for making my nightshift far more bareable. Haven't laughed so much in a while. Definately the funniest thread on Modaco in a long time! :D Ok, ok. When you take a photo holding the phone upside down (thats with the keypads ABOVE the level of the screen) the picture will display upside down. The picture is taken upside down and when you look at it later in album it's upside down (assuming you've righted the phone since taking the pic :lol: ) The reason the picture looks right way up whe you're taking it is because, as with traditional viewfinders on cameras, the screen simply displays exactly what the camera lens sees. No clever software or hardware is involved! I DO think someone should volunteer to stand on their head just to make sure though :)
Guest Dectomax Posted December 6, 2003 Report Posted December 6, 2003 Well!! I've learnt a hard lesson in thinking HARD before talking. :oops: Glad to have made an entertaining thread though. Surprising how many people went "Wow how does it do that" tonight in the pub. Ah well that's what forums are for........ pointing out the obvious to knob 'eds like me. Now if I could just manage to stand on my head after 9 pints of stella, i'm sure i could prove you all wrong. :lol: P.S. I had to reed this 4 times before i edted all mi splling mistooks. :wink:
Guest Pondrew Posted December 6, 2003 Report Posted December 6, 2003 Dectomax, don't worry bout it mate. A mate of mine once turned my original SPV upside down and made a comment about how clever the phone was to have adjusted the picture. I stopped a moment, wondered what he was on about, and decided to ignore the comment. Anyway, my point, as was apparently demonstrated in the pub tonight, is YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO'S CONFUSED! :lol: Oh, and at the risk of going off topic, only 4hrs left of my night shift!!!
Guest Syphon Filter Posted December 8, 2003 Report Posted December 8, 2003 hehe...i hadnt checked in on this thread for a while. Dectomax i didnt mean to sound rude or harsh...i find it hard to express myself clearly!! As you say it has made for an entertaining thread...
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