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[conan_troutman]

so I bought a version of moblue to try see if that worked sending incoming files to the storage card.

or other local on my phone.

nada sod all so both sniper and mo blue fail to send in coming to the storage card so maybe its a phone issue not a program issue

any one else get it to work.?

also when sending I get the message

send file/storage card/****retruned response msg badrequest.

file send s fine from file manager

[iforevans]

conan_troutman, on May 25 2006, 13:57, said:

so I bought a version of moblue to try see if that worked sending incoming files to the storage card.

or other local on my phone.

nada sod all so both sniper and mo blue fail to send in coming to the storage card so maybe its a phone issue not a program issue

any one else get it to work.?

also when sending I get the message

send file/storage card/****retruned response msg badrequest.

file send s fine from file manager

Hi, the issue is that the phone tries to accept the whole file before passing up the chain to the to find out where to save. What I am looking into is hooking into the process at alower level and chunking the file to the specified location.

no promises though ;-)

[iforevans]

conan_troutman, on May 25 2006, 13:57, said:

so I bought a version of moblue to try see if that worked sending incoming files to the storage card.

or other local on my phone.

nada sod all so both sniper and mo blue fail to send in coming to the storage card so maybe its a phone issue not a program issue

any one else get it to work.?

also when sending I get the message

send file/storage card/****retruned response msg badrequest.

file send s fine from file manager

Also, how big was the file u were trying to send from the storage card?

...Ifor

[conan_troutman]

iforevans, on May 25 2006, 19:20, said:

Also, how big was the file u were trying to send from the storage card?

...Ifor

it was a .rab file at 349k    file manager has no problem handling it
but a .jpg at 2.73k also went to the standard my documents folder.

is there not a reg entry for incoming destinations the program could hack into.

[rowmiyo]

Device1: HTC Voyager (aka i-mate SP2, O2 xphone1)
OS: windows SP2003
ROM: O2 Rom

Device2: Nokia 3660
OS: Symbian OS

I. Installation. Installed successfully on device.
II. Menu->Status.: Power Off, Discoverable, Connectable, are working smoothly
Comments: 1. I think the “Power Off” should be renamed to “Bluetooth Off”, instead of Power Off. It might be misleading as to “Turn Off the Phone”.
        2. After Manually turning ON my Bluetooth via normal mode which is thru Settings-Bluetooth, then Opened Sniper-Menu-Status, the “Power Off” is checked. Wouldn’t it be appropriate if “Connectable” be the one which is Checked, because my Bluetooth is ON? The actual Bluetooth Status be the One automatically checked? Just my opinion though.

III. Menu-Scan and Send: Scans Bluetooth devices and locates them automatically, HOWEVER, my previous paired devices (which I think are in the history of my bonded devices, I haven’t deleted them yet) appears on the list, even though they’re no longer visible or paired.
Comment: If my Bluetooth is OFF, then I press “Scan and Send”, I think the app should DETECT first if Bluetooth is ON, and if it’s Off, it will ask the user if he wants Bluetooth be turned ON automatically.
edit: I think you have fixed this on ver 0.8.40, will have test it first, thanks.
        
A. Rescan: Rescans Bluetooth devices BUT (if pressed 2 or more times) adds AGAIN the Previous detected devices, which results in an overlapping or redundant list of devices. If this is the case, I can only SEND files/Messages Only on the TOP/First Items on the List. Sending File on the “redundant” devices will result in an error: “Unexpected Exception occurred in SendFile(). Reason:-ArgumentOutOfRangeException”  or  “Unexpected Exception occurred in SendMsg(). Reason:-ArgumentOutOfRangeException”  
    
     B. Send File: I have successfully sent files to the Nokia 3660 via Bluetooth.
Comment: When Sending a file, when I don’t select or check any file to be sent and then I press CANCEL, an error occurred: “Unexpected Exception occurred in SendFile(). Reason:- NullReferenceException”

     C. Send Msg: I haven’t encountered any problem yet in this routine. Works Great! The messages sent to the Nokia3660 were received successfully in the inbox as TEXT FILES. Ex: Msg.txt

IV. Set Incoming Folder. I think this routine is not working properly on my device. I tried to set at \Storage Card,  but the files Sent from the Nokia3660 going to my device will Still be saved in the default folder, which is the \Storage\My Documents.

V. Messages: Read/Delete. I haven’t tested this because I don’t have another winmobile device to send me messages thru sniper.

VI. HIDE: (Although I’m not quite sure what this routine should suppose to do). The Hide command hides the app at the background, but when I want to launch it (Sniper) again and press the app’s shortcut, it WON’T open. I have to restart my phone

Edited by rowmiyo, 26 May 2006 - 01:50 AM.

[iforevans]

rowmiyo, on May 25 2006, 21:34, said:

Device1: HTC Voyager (aka i-mate SP2, O2 xphone1)
OS: windows SP2003
ROM: O2 Rom

Device2: Nokia 3660
OS: Symbian OS

I. Installation. Installed successfully on device.
II. Menu->Status.: Power Off, Discoverable, Connectable, are working smoothly
Comments: 1. I think the “Power Off” should be renamed to “Bluetooth Off”, instead of Power Off. It might be misleading as to “Turn Off the Phone”.
        2. After Manually turning ON my Bluetooth via normal mode which is thru Settings-Bluetooth, then Opened Sniper-Menu-Status, the “Power Off” is checked. Wouldn’t it be appropriate if “Connectable” be the one which is Checked, because my Bluetooth is ON? The actual Bluetooth Status be the One automatically checked? Just my opinion though.

III. Menu-Scan and Send: Scans Bluetooth devices and locates them automatically, HOWEVER, my previous paired devices (which I think are in the history of my bonded devices, I haven’t deleted them yet) appears on the list, even though they’re no longer visible or paired.
Comment: If my Bluetooth is OFF, then I press “Scan and Send”, I think the app should DETECT first if Bluetooth is ON, and if it’s Off, it will ask the user if he wants Bluetooth be turned ON automatically.
edit: I think you have fixed this on ver 0.8.40, will have test it first, thanks.
        
A. Rescan: Rescans Bluetooth devices BUT (if pressed 2 or more times) adds AGAIN the Previous detected devices, which results in an overlapping or redundant list of devices. If this is the case, I can only SEND files/Messages Only on the TOP/First Items on the List. Sending File on the “redundant” devices will result in an error: “Unexpected Exception occurred in SendFile(). Reason:-ArgumentOutOfRangeException”  or  “Unexpected Exception occurred in SendMsg(). Reason:-ArgumentOutOfRangeException”  
    
     B. Send File: I have successfully sent files to the Nokia 3660 via Bluetooth.
Comment: When Sending a file, when I don’t select or check any file to be sent and then I press CANCEL, an error occurred: “Unexpected Exception occurred in SendFile(). Reason:- NullReferenceException”

     C. Send Msg: I haven’t encountered any problem yet in this routine. Works Great! The messages sent to the Nokia3660 were received successfully in the inbox as TEXT FILES. Ex: Msg.txt

IV. Set Incoming Folder. I think this routine is not working properly on my device. I tried to set at \Storage Card,  but the files Sent from the Nokia3660 going to my device will Still be saved in the default folder, which is the \Storage\My Documents.

V. Messages: Read/Delete. I haven’t tested this because I don’t have another winmobile device to send me messages thru sniper.

VI. HIDE: (Although I’m not quite sure what this routine should suppose to do). The Hide command hides the app at the background, but when I want to launch it (Sniper) again and press the app’s shortcut, it WON’T open. I have to restart my phone

Hi,

Thanks for the very detailed report ;-)

Hmm ... Sniper will NOT redetect the BlueTooth Radio status if another APP changes it while Sniper is running. This is because it only checks at startup. I'll have to look into this.

Paired devices WILL show up even if theyare not in range or switched. I am gojng to make this a setting to show paired devices or NOT in a scan.

The BUG where devices are shown more than once in a RESCAN  has been fixed :-)

You SHOULD be able to test sending a MSG to Sniper from your NOKIA.  Go to the Notes section, create a Note and then Beam/Send the note. Apon arrival at Sniper you will be given the option to save to your inbox or save as a txt file. Check out mini_mans video of him doing extactly that between a NOKIA and Sniper (you can download from this thread, page one, first post)

I will check the incoming file folder issue.

NOTE To all testers. I expect to have a new Beta by the end of play tommorow, with reolutions to most outstanding issues and a WICKED new ICON for Sniper :-)

...Ifor

[Unic0der]

My experiences with Sniper yesterday:

File transfer worked absolutely fine. I transferred about 25 files by selecting multiple files and everything ran smooth. I also sent stuff to lots of different non-wm phones, and there was not one single problem.

But I have a new feature request now. Ya know, when you select mulitple files for sending and send them ... then Sniper should tell me how much files still need to be sent after each one is sent. Like "Sent File 2 out of 25", "Sent File 3 out of 25", "Sent File 4 out of 25", ...

[iforevans]

leethacker, on May 26 2006, 02:35, said:

My experiences with Sniper yesterday:

File transfer worked absolutely fine. I transferred about 25 files by selecting multiple files and everything ran smooth. I also sent stuff to lots of different non-wm phones, and there was not one single problem.

But I have a new feature request now. Ya know, when you select mulitple files for sending and send them ... then Sniper should tell me how much files still need to be sent after each one is sent. Like "Sent File 2 out of 25", "Sent File 3 out of 25", "Sent File 4 out of 25", ...

Great suggestion! I will add that for todays BETA (which you guy can expect around 5pm New York time, 10pm London Time).

...Ifor

[Unic0der]

iforevans, on May 26 2006, 13:47, said:

Great suggestion! I will add that for todays BETA (which you guy can expect around 5pm New York time, 10pm London Time).
...Ifor

Another thing i did notice when sending multiple files today: There's no option to cancel in the middle. Lets say I have 15 files selected and want to cancel after the fifth. Now thats just impossible because I have to send all 15. hope that will also make it into the next beta.  

[conan_troutman]

ok Bluetooth status does not update while program is running so could potentialy give false reading.

Ghost images during send text are still occuring on WM5 device Qtek 8310

scan mode still making duplicates on rescan.

Ideally wouldn't it be better to just list available devices rather than paired and available un less both paired and available device show in both list you plan on making but wouldnt that then make the paired device list a kind of redundant feature.

any thoughts on adding a profile so you could buzz people with similar interest abit like Mobiluck but with features that are actually worth using.

storage specifics you know about. hididng and rebooting still an issue

sending multiple files to computer cannot be done is the away to wrap each ticked item so it goes as one rather or is this a PC limitation.

multiple files send fine device to device.

[iforevans]

conan_troutman, on May 26 2006, 10:17, said:

ok Bluetooth status does not update while program is running so could potentialy give false reading.

Ghost images during send text are still occuring on WM5 device Qtek 8310

scan mode still making duplicates on rescan.

Ideally wouldn't it be better to just list available devices rather than paired and available un less both paired and available device show in both list you plan on making but wouldnt that then make the paired device list a kind of redundant feature.

any thoughts on adding a profile so you could buzz people with similar interest abit like Mobiluck but with features that are actually worth using.

storage specifics you know about. hididng and rebooting still an issue

sending multiple files to computer cannot be done is the away to wrap each ticked item so it goes as one rather or is this a PC limitation.

multiple files send fine device to device.

In the next beta:-

1. the duplicates during a scan issue is fixed.
2. paired devices will be diferentiated from others by the use of diferent icons
ghost images i have yet to duplicate propely which makes it hard to fix. EXCACTLY when/where does it happen?
3. Profiles I think are a great idea, but i don't know what u mean 'feature actaulyy worth using' as i've never used mobiluck and have no idea what kind of things people are looking for?

...Ifor

[Unic0der]

iforevans, on May 26 2006, 16:29, said:

ghost images i have yet to duplicate propely which makes it hard to fix. EXCACTLY when/where does it happen?

they happen every time a text is entered in sniper. and there is only one situation in sniper where text is entered: when you compose a messgage. btw: as far as i can remember you can see the ghosting problem in one of the videos in the first posting of this thread.

btw: this ghosting issue also seems only to happen on wm5 devices. i also programmed a small app with a text entry box for my SP5 one month ago, and i also had the ghosting problem there when I entered a text. but due to lack of time i did not try to find a solution. but as this seems to happen on all wm5 devices where a simple text entry box is used, there must be a fix for it! have you ever tried googling for a solution. maybe someone posted it somewhere ...

EDIT: Attached a scan of my phone where you can see the ghosting problem in the textbox ...

Attached Files

•  ghosting.jpg   184.38K   75 downloads

Edited by leethacker, 26 May 2006 - 05:36 PM.

[conan_troutman]

sorry trying to do thids while finding a job...

to clarify your questions Ghosting occurs when entering text to send a message as i type a box opens with the T9 dictionery options in it after I finsh typing or choose the word the box closes but its image is still visible as i type the next word another T9 box opens and again leaves a ghost image eventually I cant type as all I can see is ghost images.


As for profiles

say I am at a festival which can be the case over summer I could have sniper set to scan for new devices automatically say every 10 minustes or a user defind time.

if it finds another sniper user t buzzes them and me if they have an key word in the profile setting same as mine like Say "TOOL FAN" not only does it buzz them but sends a predefind text or image

that way i could walk through the crowd and any other fellow TOOL fans would recieve say a tool Wallpaper as a gift from one fan toanother.

Loving the idea of what we can do with this application we can make it all the things Mobiluck say it can be.

you should try the three day trial of it to see what I mean.

[iforevans]

leethacker, on May 26 2006, 13:17, said:

they happen every time a text is entered in sniper. and there is only one situation in sniper where text is entered: when you compose a messgage. btw: as far as i can remember you can see the ghosting problem in one of the videos in the first posting of this thread.

btw: this ghosting issue also seems only to happen on wm5 devices. i also programmed a small app with a text entry box for my SP5 one month ago, and i also had the ghosting problem there when I entered a text. but due to lack of time i did not try to find a solution. but as this seems to happen on all wm5 devices where a simple text entry box is used, there must be a fix for it! have you ever tried googling for a solution. maybe someone posted it somewhere ...

EDIT: Attached a scan of my phone where you can see the ghosting problem in the textbox ...

It seems to be an issue with multiline txt boxes on WM5, and no i haven't managed to find anyone even talking abut the issue on google. if u find any postings let me know

...Ifor

[Unic0der]

iforevans, on May 26 2006, 21:11, said:

It seems to be an issue with multiline txt boxes on WM5, and no i haven't managed to find anyone even talking abut the issue on google. if u find any postings let me know
...Ifor

Hmmm ... dont count on my ability to google. I guess the best thing you can do if google doesnt help is to ask other developers who have successfully solved this problem. Here in Modaco are some app-developers who have already made apps where this problem is solved. And maybe you can also ask greatbal. Maybe he knows also how to solve this problem. -> http://greatbal.blogspot.com/

Over at www.xda-developers.com and www.airvagev.com are also some very good programmers who are willing to help for sure.

Edited by leethacker, 26 May 2006 - 07:55 PM.

[iforevans]

leethacker, on May 26 2006, 15:53, said:

Hmmm ... dont count on my ability to google. I guess the best thing you can do if google doesnt help is to ask other developers who have successfully solved this problem. Here in Modaco are some app-developers who have already made apps where this problem is solved. And maybe you can also ask greatbal. Maybe he knows also how to solve this problem. -> http://greatbal.blogspot.com/

Over at www.xda-developers.com and www.airvagev.com are also some very good programmers who are willing to help for sure.

Problem solved! There is a bug with multiline edit boxes in WM5 ONLY if the edit box is full screen. The form does not render properly.  I have added a box for an OPTIONAL From (you may want to use a nickname when sending msgs) field to the form and the issue has gone away. 5 hours!

Still on track for next BETA :-)

...Ifor

[iforevans]

iforevans, on May 26 2006, 16:11, said:

Problem solved! There is a bug with multiline edit boxes in WM5 ONLY if the edit box is full screen. The form does not render properly.  I have added a box for an OPTIONAL From (you may want to use a nickname when sending msgs) field to the form and the issue has gone away. 5 hours!

Still on track for next BETA :-)

...Ifor

One thing to bearin mind. In order for Sniper to be able to direct incoming giles to the folder you specify you MUST uncheck "Receive Incoming Beams" in the Beam menu other wise the phone will take the incoming transmission and store it the default location. This has caught ME out today ;-)

...Ifor

[greenturtle]

genious! whoever figured tht must be clever

[iforevans]

mini_man, on May 26 2006, 17:19, said:

genious! whoever figured tht must be clever

Yeah, yeah, u get credit ;-)

[greenturtle]

and you get that little bit of credit for creating the app!!!