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[blackberrythemecentral]

awarner (MVP), on Jan 15 2007, 07:08, said:

It's made the TV news C4 luchtime news talking about modaco (but not in actual name)
They also said APPLE were not prepared to discuss this and declined making a comment.
Cowards they know they have made a kneejerk reaction.

Can someone email me the icons?

[everton2004]

blackberrythemecentral, on Jan 15 2007, 12:19, said:

Can someone email me the icons?

You'll find all the icons you need on the Apple iPhone website!   Will I be in trouble for pointing people towards the official iPhone site??

[blackberrythemecentral]

everton2004, on Jan 15 2007, 07:24, said:

You'll find all the icons you need on the Apple iPhone website!   Will I be in trouble for pointing people towards the official iPhone site??

That's where I am looking but I cant find them sorry to be a pain

[dearsina]

Paul, you shouldn't have given in like this, they're just rattling their swords, as you read from their email, they don't really know what they're talking about.

[LlamaV3]

Hi can anyone please email me all the gubbins or a tutorial to get this working on a qvga wm5, thanks so so so much in advance

[edit] an email address helps, doh!

[email protected]

[/edit]

Edited by LlamaV3, 15 January 2007 - 10:58 PM.

[bennish]

Dear MoDaCo users


It has come to the attention of iApple iComputer iInc. that there have been discussions on this forum regarding the new Apple iPhone.

We would like to remind you that any discussion about this is strictly forbidden, and we will be taking legal action and seizing all your properties.

Any sentences and/or posts regarding this product are strictly the property of iApple iComputer iInc., and we DEMAND that you immediately remove the entire MoDaCo site and replace it with a redirection to the Apple store.

In addition, any consuming of an apple or apple-like fruit while reading this forum will be considered an illegal act. You are not to place apple peels or 'skins' anywhere near your Windows devices.

thankyou

Edited by bennish, 15 January 2007 - 11:08 PM.

[pd.ryder]

^^ Very funny

[Looby]

Ha Ha!

[kiint]

Man I love this look a lot, so I went a little nuts a made a VGA version for my X50v, even though its not a phone (except for using Skype.) Still working on it (in Wisbar Desktop) but thought Id show off what's done so far with all my fancy-pants icons (had to make 'em myself for VGA). BTW the theme is the awesome Vista Portable Edition theme by XcSkins for Wisbar.

http://angelswithcel...s.com/ipWM5.jpg

hope just posting a link isn't verboten! enjoy...

Edited by kiint, 16 January 2007 - 03:15 AM.

[bennish]

kiint, on Jan 16 2007, 13:12, said:

(had to make 'em myself for VGA).

hear that? MADE HIMSELF. *not* iCopyrighted!

Although, kiint, would love to see the vista top bar (which i personally use, and have never been sued by MS for using) replaced with one that entirely by coincidence resembles the ummm... (whispers) top bar of a particular kind of phone... *wink wink*

Edited by bennish, 16 January 2007 - 03:31 AM.

[jimbouk]

I think that Apple's legal teams are using the same approach as they did with the ppod etc where they were protecting the ipod's unique scroll wheel design and mp3 filing structure... you know the one they ended up having to pay Creative $100 million for, after "borrowing" their patented idea...

[fear-otaku]

It's just a theme? people use windows xp icons all the time and M$ doesn't sue everyone? I think it's just going to generate bad press for apple, considering they are already in violation for using the iphone name.

[Candidhat]

http://www.macnewswo...-Copycats.xhtml

From the article:

"What MoDaCo did appears to be the equivalent of waving a bright red cape in front of an angry bull."

Hmm - no. Angry Bullsh*t morelike. Apple just got a bit puffed up and decided to throw their weight around, and MoDaCo felt the force of it.

[PaulOBrien]

I wonder how many times I can see 'WE WERE JUST REPORTING ON NEWS FROM ANOTHER SITE'

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[Sp00k]

News of the Bully-Boy Apple Attitude is spreading fast across the Net, this site picked it up from the Sydney Morning Herald... Yet another mention for Modaco... and someone called Paul somebody-or-other...  

[PaulOBrien]

Problem is, it's Chinese whispers now

http://www.paulobrien.net/node/69

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[Swampie]

mikealder, on Jan 14 2007, 07:07, said:

If they didn't want it to be seen why release it to the press six months before it will be made available? - stupid marketing stunt IMHO.

Quite simply, because they were due to do the FCC filings, and as that's public information, it would effectively leak the product.  Better to do it in a big blaze of glory and publicity, than have misinformation and confusion leak out when the FCC gets the details.

[Swampie]

The ultimate issue I believe was down to use of Apple copyrighted icons.  As with any copyrighted media (images, audio, video, documents etc) the owner of the media has the right to stop unauthorised users from using them.

Whilst it may see over the top, certainly with the regard to trademarks, if a trademark owner fails to enforce their trademark then they can end up with an unenforceable genericised trademark (http://en.wikipedia....cized_trademark)

If someone decided to write their own CameraAware application (calling it CameraWarez or something), copying the application's icons and layout, and distributing it for free - I'm sure Modaco might try doing something about it.  Maybe it might be a skin/add-on for TomTom (I know, TomTom doesn't have skins!) which gives the same layout and icons as CameraAware.

Or maybe the other way around - if CameraAware had used icons taken from TomTom - I'm sure TomTom would have tried to enforce the copyright issue.

I agree that it sounds very heavy handed - however, they're not doing anything wrong - they have the sound legal justification that the icons are their property (not to mention being used on 'competitor' devices).  MS themselves is not unknown for employing similar style tactics on occasions.

I've no idea about whether the copyright covers layout/design etc - and whether using your *own* icons layed out in the iPhone style would be okay - but certainly, the images I've seen showed Apple icons being displayed without Apple's permission, and copied around.  Reporting the information is one thing, providing a link to the source is a grey area, providing screen shots is certainly an issue.

[PaulOBrien]

Swampie... we weren't distributing anything, we were just reporting on something from another site (how many times do I need to say that?)

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[Thumper Net]

wonder when apple with tell paul that the apple section is not legal , on the serious side i hope microsoft dont blame modaco for just reporting news ( which is all it was ) and take the mvp status away from its mvp members , bet bill has the homescreen anyway