Divx HD Video Encoding assistance.

[Guest FerdiBorbon]

Hello guys, since ive been complaining abit on some threads about video playback on the i8000, im here to share my encoding settings, as ive finally got awsome quality and smooth playback.

Im using AVS Converter.

Heres a screenshot of my settings i hope it helps.

Optional: You can set your own kbs, to reduce file size or you can set Video aspect to original if you dont want your image stretched.

Also heres a trailer sample...kindly give me feedbacks and enjoy...

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?jhmmng2zonq

Edited August 10, 2009 by FerdiBorbon

[Guest hiperjp]

Thank you very much!, I've been looking for this. :)

[Guest FerdiBorbon]

no worries im happy i can help :)...my gf has an iphone 3gs...i compared video quality and the iphone just cant do the same color clarity...plus some scenes were eirher too bright or too dark...the i8000 just does this perfectly

[Guest sanyboi]

Recently recieved my omnia II and will be trying this out asap. What size do you normally get after a conversion? eg. what size is the video before and after?

[Guest inmatrixout]

Any suggestions of a good player?

I am interesting in playing HD videos of different file types and at 720 and 1080

[Guest FerdiBorbon]

Recently recieved my omnia II and will be trying this out asap. What size do you normally get after a conversion? eg. what size is the video before and after?

Well to give you an idea of a movie that runs for 2 hours @2500kbs as per my settings above it will produce a 2.1gb file. :)

ive dumped a 16gb storage card so this is no problems...

[Guest FerdiBorbon]

Any suggestions of a good player?

I am interesting in playing HD videos of different file types and at 720 and 1080

Well the only option you have at the moment is touchplayer, thats why i provided these settings, beacuse Coreplayer or Tcpmp cannot produce a smooth playback with the movies i throw at it...also using other players results in losing your WowHD audio enhancement :)...

[Guest Shadowy]

Well the only option you have at the moment is touchplayer, thats why i provided these settings, beacuse Coreplayer or Tcpmp cannot produce a smooth playback with the movies i throw at it...also using other players results in losing your WowHD audio enhancement :D ...

Thanks for this, I wouldn't have known where to start without it. How long did it take to convert a dvd? I'm currently 3.5 hours in with 2.5 hours projected, 6 hours for one dvd???!!

[Guest FerdiBorbon]

yeah it does convert for a long time, just leave it overnight thats what i do..... mine takes 3 hours max for a 2 hours movie.

[Guest slpy07]

Hello guys, since ive been complaining abit on some threads about video playback on the i8000, im here to share my encoding settings, as ive finally got awsome quality and smooth playback.

Im using AVS Converter.

Heres a screenshot of my settings i hope it helps.

Optional: You can set your own kbs, to reduce file size or you can set Video aspect to original if you dont want your image stretched.

Also heres a trailer sample...kindly give me feedbacks and enjoy...

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?jhmmng2zonq

I see there is a dvix option window on the right of gthe picture, is that part of the avs software or do i have to download that seperately, a link would help, PM of course, thanks. =)

[Guest previa]

Hello guys, since ive been complaining abit on some threads about video playback on the i8000, im here to share my encoding settings, as ive finally got awsome quality and smooth playback.

Im using AVS Converter.

Heres a screenshot of my settings i hope it helps.

Optional: You can set your own kbs, to reduce file size or you can set Video aspect to original if you dont want your image stretched.

Also heres a trailer sample...kindly give me feedbacks and enjoy...

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?jhmmng2zonq

Morning .FerdiBorbon, have you try this video to test your Omnia II i8000 before ? A good performance show on your phone . :D

http://xun6.com/file/9ec6f2124/the+Blue.part1.rar.html

http://xun6.com/file/5651f7354/the+Blue.part2.rar.html

http://xun6.com/file/7930ace94/the+Blue.part3.rar.html

[Guest FerdiBorbon]

Morning .FerdiBorbon, have you try this video to test your Omnia II i8000 before ? A good performance show on your phone . :D

http://xun6.com/file/9ec6f2124/the+Blue.part1.rar.html

http://xun6.com/file/5651f7354/the+Blue.part2.rar.html

http://xun6.com/file/7930ace94/the+Blue.part3.rar.html

Not yet, but i will give a try thank you..

Also another thing with AVS Converter, there is an "Edit" option for your video, which has many various filters from brightness,contrast, audio amplify etc...just wanted to point it out as i use these to further increase quality of my videos...

[Guest alvinaloy]

Anyone has other 3-5 min HD quality movie clips that doesn't lag that I can show off to friends? :D

Edited August 20, 2009 by alvinaloy

[Guest vodanhdaisu]

Yah, same here, I'm looking for high quality video clips that could be played smoothly in i8000 in order that i can show off to my friends sometimes :D

[Guest FerdiBorbon]

Yah, same here, I'm looking for high quality video clips that could be played smoothly in i8000 in order that i can show off to my friends sometimes :D

Chose your own HD trailers @ trailerfreaks.com

Then encode using my settings above, thats it...

[Guest sinancetinkaya]

I've always wondered that, is Ferdi a Turkish man ? Because Ferdi is a Turkish name :)

[Guest teamkillexpert]

I'm pretty sure "HD" refers to videos of 480lines high at 16:9 accept ratio and above, I think yours is at 432.

[Guest dwallersv]

Well the only option you have at the moment is touchplayer, thats why i provided these settings, beacuse Coreplayer or Tcpmp cannot produce a smooth playback with the movies i throw at it...also using other players results in losing your WowHD audio enhancement ;)...

Sigh...

We covered this many, many times in other threads. My intent here is not to criticize or scold; that said, using the search feature with some effort can make a big difference in solving these sorts of problems.

Some points:

• HD playback on the O2 is simply impossible. Period. The screen resolution is just slightly better than DVD. There is no point in playing an HD video file on the O2 other than convenience in not bothering with a transcode to scale down to the native resolution. This convenience has a huge price, however, in enormous wasted storage space for the file, and wasted CPU processing to read through all that data, pointlessly, just to scale the video down to display resolution.
  
  All of this is pointless discussion anyway, as there isn't any player available that can play an HD source satisfactorily. TP won't play HD media at all, and the other top solutions (CorePlayer, PocketPlayer, TCPMP) lack the graphics accelerator support to play them smoothly. So transcoding is the only option for HD media.
  
  
• If you're going to transcode anyway, might as well maximize the resolution and quality that is possible. Can't do this with TP (which is a crying shame), because TP is limited to strict DVD resolution -- 720x480. This is a 1.5 aspect ratio. Widescreen (16:9) is 1.78. So, in practice, HD media, which is always widescreen, will be at most 720x405 on your 800x480 device. For me personally, I want that extra resolution in the image that can't be had with TP.
  
  
• The best choice, in my experimentation and opinion, is to transcode to Divx/Xvid (h.263), at full width (800), height being determined by the aspect ratio of the source material (varies a lot -- standard 16:9 widescreen is 450; 4:3 NTSC goes 600x480; Cinemascope movies, AR 2.25, end up 800x356). A bitrate of 800kbps is more than adequate to produce good quality video. The most noticable artifacts show up in large black areas in the video, where blocking noise artifacts can be seen. Even this can be fixed with a bit more effort by identifying these portions of the video, and adjusting encoding parameters for those segments. This is, however, a lot of work, and not worth it (by a long shot!) for watching video on a device that is not, well, home theater.
  
  
• The Best player to go with the above transcoding profile is CorePlayer. It will play the full-screen resolution transcode perfectly, without dropped frames or any other problems. Further, CP provides a rich set of features and settings to adjust the video appearance (color profiles, full equalizer, and lots more) that TP and other players don't.
  
  
• I recommend MeGUI to do the transcodes. It's free, and very flexible. However, it takes some learning to use. I posted some sample full-display resolution transcodes in another thread for people to try out. One is 720w, the other 800. Only the 720 is playable in TP, and gives an example if you plan to use TP. If you have CP, you can compare the two side-by-side and see the slightly better quality of the higher resolution 800w version. Also, I posted my custom profiles for MeGUI that I use to transcode, so you can just use those instead of having to get in the technical guts of AVS, codecs, etc., and MeGUI becomes almost turnkey.
  

So that's the lowdown on HD media and the O2. As this thread demonstrates, there are other ways to do it and get decent results, but what I've posted above is where it stands, in my study of the problem, to get the Highest Definition (redefining HD :) ) for your omnia.

See this post for the sample clips mentioned above, and the custom AVISynth and Xvid profiles I created for MeGUI to transcode for the OmniaII. The AVISynth script is smart, fits oversized source into the maximum possible resolution for the O2 display preserving aspect ratio, and leaves undersized source alone, keeping transcoded files to their minimum size with best display resolution, leaving it to the player to do scaling on the fly to fill the display (if you so choose), so storage space isn't wasted.

Get MeGUI from doom9.org.

Edited March 17, 2010 by dwallersv

[Guest jebise]

i have yet to try any video on my omnia. From my knowledge can we just take a regular avi divx file and play it? As for HD i have a few TV shows that are in HD converted to MP4 so i can view them on my ps3. From what i understand if i where to copy a mp4 file over it will not play it?

[Guest dwallersv]

i have yet to try any video on my omnia. From my knowledge can we just take a regular avi divx file and play it? As for HD i have a few TV shows that are in HD converted to MP4 so i can view them on my ps3. From what i understand if i where to copy a mp4 file over it will not play it?

Yes, in most cases.

One of the great things about the amateur videophile community is it creates really great, flexible tools that are often better than what is commercially available. This is the case with MeGUI, Xvid, x264, and many others.

The downside is that the user interface is often (if not most of the time) far inferior to commercial products, so some time and effort must be invested to learn how to use them.

This has improved a lot over the past several years, as a variety of contributors have donated their time and expertise to putting better and better GUI layers on top of the excellent encoding tools (the bigshots are AVISynth, Xvid, x264, BeSweet(audio), and various muxers/demuxers for assembling streams into containers).

As such, these tools support every popular codec, container, etc., and quite a few obscure ones. As such, with a tool like MeGUI you can transcode pretty much anything you come across to pretty much any audio/video codec and container you want.

I use MeGUI to transcode TV shows I grab via bittorrent to download to my O2 routinely. Because of the lack of accelerator support in CorePlayer, I use h.263 (Divx) and AVI as a container, because this gets the best results (h.264 is just too computationally intense for CP to handle well without acceleration support). This is only because those extra 80 pixels of width are important to me :)

Edited March 17, 2010 by dwallersv

[Guest jebise]

Yes, in most cases.

One of the great things about the amateur videophile community is it creates really great, flexible tools that are often better than what is commercially available. This is the case with MeGUI, Xvid, x264, and many others.

The downside is that the user interface is often (if not most of the time) far inferior to commercial products, so some time and effort must be invested to learn how to use them.

This has improved a lot over the past several years, as a variety of contributors have donated their time and expertise to putting better and better GUI layers on top of the excellent encoding tools (the bigshots are AVISynth, Xvid, x264, BeSweet(audio), and various muxers/demuxers for assembling streams into containers).

As such, these tools support every popular codec, container, etc., and quite a few obscure ones. As such, with a tool like MeGUI you can transcode pretty much anything you come across to pretty much any audio/video codec and container you want.

I use MeGUI to transcode TV shows I grab via bittorrent to download to my O2 routinely. Because of the lack of accelerator support in CorePlayer, I use h.263 (Divx) and AVI as a container, because this gets the best results (h.264 is just too computationally intense for CP to handle well without acceleration support). This is only because those extra 80 pixels of width are important to me :)

well can't we just use touch player?

[Guest teamkillexpert]

well can't we just use touch player?

no, because:

-he must play videos with full 800 pixels width, which TP doesn't

-his videos are somehow broken and he must fix the accept ratios in the player, and TP doesn't do that

-his videos have broken dynamic ranges that he has to adjust things like brightness and contrast with Coreplayer

-his videos also have broken sound that he must use an equalizer to correct them

-some other guys have like servers at their home with tones of videos that they must be able to stream with Coreplayer on the go

Edited March 17, 2010 by teamkillexpert