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[tonyyeb]

Bisto321, on Nov 5 2010, 10:45, said:

Thanks for that will have a go later.
This is my current (strangely ok and responsive) desktop!
It still seems to be behaving well - anyone got ubuntu on yet

That is looking pretty swish. Any chance of a video with it running? Opening apps, general use stuff?

[tsh]

Bisto321, on Nov 5 2010, 10:45, said:

It still seems to be behaving well - anyone got ubuntu on yet

No. Failed at the stage of being able to write a replacement recovery partition. I was hoping to use the nvidia flashing tool, but I can't get the device in the right mode.
Now trying to work out why my rooting wasn't persistent. (used ratc manually, now one-click seems not to work - but I am on ubuntu, and never used it before)

[Bisto321]

tonyyeb, on Nov 5 2010, 11:08, said:

That is looking pretty swish. Any chance of a video with it running? Opening apps, general use stuff?

quick video, sorry about the aspect ratio must not have had the correct flagging when uploaded to flickr so I got 4:3 squeezed! - still running quite nicely. Don't know why I was concerned Just put a call in to Toshiba about some of its unique 'features' - unresponsive screen, lack of flash at launch, automatic waking from sleep function, etcI made it clear that I thought Toshiba had done a bit of 'popin a cap in ya own foot' with the flash omission and that I would expect timely and suitable updates.They stated that they have only just received a production version in tech support and that as it was a new product I should expect problems and Toshiba would work hard to fix them!When I mentioned (oops, momentarily distracted as the folio bursts into life on its own) that my HTC Hero runs Froyo more smoothly than their twin engined super tab, she said yes it probably would - they have had some experience of this! When I challenged her on this she went a bit quiet, but offered that she was sorry on behalf of Toshiba but hoped that I would keep the tablet and let Toshiba fix these issues and omissionsThey can have a week and then I will be calling back to ask for an update.

[tonyyeb]

@Bisto321

Thanks for the video. It looks snappy and responsive in that video. What would you say are your top 5(?) gripes with it at the moment?

[andrewd1]

Bisto321, on Nov 5 2010, 10:45, said:

Thanks for that will have a go later.
This is my current (strangely ok and responsive) desktop!
It still seems to be behaving well - anyone got ubuntu on yet

foliodesktop.jpg

What is the calender app you have there I can't find one on mine even though the settings say to sync it.

[Bisto321]

tonyyeb, on Nov 5 2010, 13:58, said:

@Bisto321

Thanks for the video. It looks snappy and responsive in that video. What would you say are your top 5(?) gripes with it at the moment?

The only things that not right are, flash(soon to be sorted hopefully) and sometimes laggy interface.
The screen issue is not really a problem for me, I can see how others may not like it, but It will only be used for a bit of work/sofa/bed surfing and the way that I hold it means that the screen is alway's at the right angle. Best advice is to have a look at one in PCW and make a decision based on that - I will be very interested to see the Advent, but as others have mentioned, I would suspect they share screen specs. If the Advent is better, then Toshiba have really screwed the pooch.

The random screen on thing is a bit annoying, but I am sure Toshiba can fix that.

If it had behaved as well as it has done today when I first fired it up (other than the lack of flash) I would be totally happy - really am at a loss to explain why it is behaving better. Couple of side loaded apps and launcher Pro (was the Tosh launcher to blame?) is all I have added.

Also 16gig SD card is recognised and ok, so now I have a 32Gb Tosh and the Mouse and HDMI output work well too - Way back when I first started flashing ROM's on my hero the Dev's used to say "it takes a few hours and reboots for the ROM to bed in and become stable", I think we have moved on from that type of ROM (never convinced myself) but the Tosh does seem to improve with age. Come on Toshiba get some fixes out...........

[Bisto321]

andrewd1, on Nov 5 2010, 14:09, said:

What is the calender app you have there I can't find one on mine even though the settings say to sync it.

It is one of Launcher Pro's widgets - it has Facebook, twitter (or TwatFace as I call them. must be my age ), calendar, bookmarks and more. It really is rather good and gives you lots of options to set up the folio screen (set mine to 6 rows x 8 columns for nicer layout) The catch? you have to pay (£2 ish?) from the market(paypal) and side load it. They do have a free one but the widgets are not available until you cough up - well worth it.

Toshiba market lets you download ADW - very similar and you can theme it - not sure if it has widgets.

Not tried setting up my calendar yet - will give it a go later.

[Johnrg]

Looks like I might invest in Launcher Pro tonight then!

How do you side load it on from the Market? I notice its possible to download the apk from their website, is that all that is needed?

Did you uninstall the Toshiba home launcher?

[Bisto321]

Johnrg, on Nov 5 2010, 15:03, said:

Looks like I might invest in Launcher Pro tonight then!

How do you side load it on from the Market? I notice its possible to download the apk from their website, is that all that is needed?

Did you uninstall the Toshiba home launcher?

you can do it either way, I just used my phones file manager(estrongs) to copy the apk to my SD card. But the one from his site is easier. then pay him by paypal and he will send you an unlock code associated with your paypal account. When installed, the first time you return to the home screen you will be asked how you wish to complete this action just select launcher pro - job done. Quite a lot of info on his site on how to configure it.

No need to uninstall the Toshiba launcher - you may need root for that anyway, not sure?

[Bisto321]

Showing my HDMI out running - crops a bit but my TV has naff HDMI its too old now

[griff_dai]

Just been playing with this in Curry's Wrexham, have to say that the I was quite impressed with what I have seen.

Once I played about with the settings and that, it looked quite nice.

However I am not jumping in yet, going to wait and see what the Vega is like first!

[Bisto321]

Johnrg, on Nov 5 2010, 15:03, said:

Looks like I might invest in Launcher Pro tonight then!

How do you side load it on from the Market? I notice its possible to download the apk from their website, is that all that is needed?

Did you uninstall the Toshiba home launcher?

Just before you commit to a purchase of this app, it is worth noting that currently it looks as if some of the pay for widgets will not function on the folio.

Calendar, Facebook and Twitter.

Because of the lack of Google apps the calendar is 'not there', have not confirmed twitter, but facebook widget fails when adding login details. Bookmarks and contacts seems ok but I suspect the others are relying on chunks of code that are not there in our non 3G non Google device. Not had time to thoroughly check this out, launcher pro site may have more detail. Contacts, basic calendar and bookmarks are fine for me at the moment – full calendar sync would be nice though.

[BooToo]

Well...
I ordered it on the PC World website 2 days ago and seriously started to worry reading peoples comments about the screen, the lag, the build quality, the clumsy toshiba soft so I decided to pay a visit to my local PC World to have a good look at it before I accept the delivery  

To be honest, what a good surprise!
Yes, the view angles could be better... but compared to my Asus netbook (only 1 year old), it is quite decent and I can definitely live with that.

I did not noticed any "really bad" lag. My Nexus one overoptimized with a Cyanogen ROM does not perform better...

Build quality? Yes, the back has not been made from a solid piece of aluminium ultra design and the black plastic is soft in some areas but it offers a very good grip thanks to its patern and looks VERY resistant to scratchs

The spec is what keeps me dreaming... Tegra 2, wifi n, 16gb internal (I already orders a 32Gb SD class 6 on ebay). This baby has a HUGE potential when it would have been optimized with custom ROM and knowing the Android community, I am sure it is not going to be long...

I know what I am talking about... I purchased a Streak in August running 1.6 because I felt in love with the form factor and the mobile spec and in is only this week that Finally, we now have a stable and fully functional custom made Froyo 2.2 which deliver it's full potential... (Dell is still to deliver...)

No flash yet on the Tosh market? I can wait few weeks  

Last but not least, all these complaints and disapointment about the screen, build quality seems unfair looking at it price compare to its competitors (Galaxis, Ipad) with a better finish, yes, but several £100 away...

If you really want to do a comparaison, look a all the tab with a similar price tag, most of them Chinese/korean that you can get on ebay (Ramos, Nationite, SPAM, Onda...).
I have owned several of them and I can tell you that what I have seen this morning is much much better.

And it is also Tosh... That means that we can imagine to get Android 3.0 on the Folio one day...
When it arrives, I keep it  

Edited by BooToo, 07 November 2010 - 09:29 PM.

[Bisto321]

BooToo, on Nov 5 2010, 21:56, said:

Well...
I ordered it on the PC World website 2 days ago and seriously started to worry reading peoples comments about the screen, the lag, the build quality, the clumsy toshiba soft so I decided to pay a visit to my local PC World to have a good look at it before I accept the delivery  

Yep, I do agree it sounds really bad. Trouble is it is true! (for me it is)

As I posted earlier, mine was flying this morning and had me smiling again, since then it has slowed and refused to respond on several occasions. My call to Toshiba left me relieved that they were commited to fixing issues and the update software does look like it has been thought through. However, their admission, error or otherwise, that it will probably not be as smooth as my 500mhz Hero has me baffled and worried. Certainly, my hero cant play 1080p video, but its 2.2 interface is much smoother and more robust.

Screen is fine for me, landscape 99% of the time and it looks good. People have been spoiled with the newer super amoled screens and the more expensive offerings of late and probably expected better on this.

I know a few people have made mention of similar issues to me, but I hope that my unit is slightly sick and a one off, when its runnning well it is great.

I would be interested to hear from more people who have positive news. They are all too busy using it rather than worrying and moaning about it

[munzab]

I'm writing from the folio. tried to installed flash apk but itobviously did not work.

anybody see the annoying thing that when trying to entertext, the whole scrreen geets taken up by the text box and keyboardso I don't know whereim writing and I can't refer to the previous posts at all?any workarounds?

[fonetastic]

Mine arrived on Friday although im NOT allowed it till my birthday, my wife has hidden it

I also have a Streak too.

Theres a big thread over on xda about the G-tab, they have a working market and gmail etc might be worth a look.

[BooToo]

fonetastic, on Nov 6 2010, 12:54, said:

Mine arrived on Friday although im NOT allowed it till my birthday, my wife has hidden it

I also have a Streak too.

Theres a big thread over on xda about the G-tab, they have a working market and gmail etc might be worth a look.

Can you put a link?
I can't finf it.
Many thanks

[fonetastic]

BooToo, on Nov 6 2010, 13:01, said:

Can you put a link?
I can't finf it.
Many thanks

Rooting market etc - http://forum.xda-dev...ad.php?t=827209

and the main thread - http://forum.xda-dev...ad.php?t=824804

[Matrix Mike]

I stood behind a Toshiba rep in my local PCworld earlier playing with the Folio and when I commented on the slow and jerky scrolling he said they are all like that , when pressed he said ALL tablets are bad at scrolling so I started scrolling on the Galaxy Tab next to him and when it scrolled nicely , I commented that the Tab must be broken as it was not jerky and walked away ....what a Muppet

[BooToo]

fonetastic, on Nov 6 2010, 13:16, said:

Rooting market etc - http://forum.xda-dev...ad.php?t=827209

and the main thread - http://forum.xda-dev...ad.php?t=824804

Really look promissing indeed...

I would really like to backup the entire ROM as an update.zip file before starting to play with it but to get to that point, it seems that the following need to happend:
1: Root the device - seems like SilentMobius got it rights with superoneclickroot - To Be confirmed
2: Install a custom recovery image WITH Nandroid - No idea how to get an existing recovery images compatible with the Folio
3: Create a full Nandroid backup of the ROM on the SD card - That should be a piece of cake once the custom recovery is in place...

Then, we will have an update.zip ready to be restored if we mess up with the ROM  

Anybody skilled enough to make compatible an existing custom recovery image?

UPDATE:
That might be easier than I thought...
http://www.androidpo...od-rom-manager/
Under the assumption that Clockworkmod does not need an access to the maket (CallHome) to work...

Edited by BooToo, 06 November 2010 - 03:07 PM.