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[SingleWolf]

 From 11 February 2013 - 06:25 PM:

INSTALL ONLY FOR TPTs with 2Mbs of cache ...For all other cases, use v2.1

What exactly you mean? 'If' which moves cache works only if it have 35Mb size...

[Viento del Sur]

 SingleWolf, on 12 February 2013 - 03:40 AM, said:

What exactly you mean? 'If' which moves cache works only if it have 35Mb size...

Sorry, I have a little problem with the language ...

V3 works exactly like v2.1. The cache is not involved in the process. v3 just add a plus: provides 64mb cache only in case that your tpt is 2MB of cache ...

You have a 2mb tpt-cache? Then flash v3.... Provide 64mb-cache.
If you has 35MB or more, v3 keeps those 35 (or more). It's automatic.


See you:
TPT.2mb.cache +  2.3.7rom + Nitroglassv2.1 = PlayStore NOT DOWNLOAD

In this case, the solution is v3. In other cases, simply it's not necessary.

[SingleWolf]

Sorry, I was some wrong with my previous statement. It not works properly with 2mb cache due to incorrect condition: $CACHESIZE returns "2M" instead of "2".

[H3ROS]

If you're using H3 Blues and your TPT has a 2MB cache then you'd need to be careful with v3 of this script. That'd be because H3 Blues will already detect if you've got a 2MB cache and it'll automatically create you a temporary 35MB cache. It's 35MB because the stock size is 35MB and that's normally plenty.

By the way, this explains the swappiness a little:
http://forum.xda-dev...937&postcount=2
http://zerocredibili...snt-make-sense/


On Android the advantage of no swap is a performance gain. So if on your ROM your memory (SD Card) is slow then H3 Blues will always be faster, although you may not be able to keep as many things running in memory. I've yet to run into any problems with this though.

Edited by H3ROS, 12 February 2013 - 06:30 PM.

[Viento del Sur]

First of all, I apologize for my bad English. And later, I appreciate your comments and contributions.

 SingleWolf, on 12 February 2013 - 06:09 PM, said:

Sorry, I was some wrong with my previous statement. It not works properly with 2mb cache due to incorrect condition: $CACHESIZE returns "2M" instead of "2".

Oh god, you're absolutely right! THANK YOU VERY MACH!!

I only thinking in numbers of two digits... The problem is that I haven't one tpt-2mb to test ... Very thx for your repport.

 H3ROS, on 12 February 2013 - 06:12 PM, said:

If you're using H3 Blues and your TPT has a 2MB cache then you'd need to be careful with v3 of this script. That'd be because H3 Blues will already detect if you've got a 2MB cache and it'll automatically create you a temporary 35MB cache. It's 35MB because the stock size is 35MB and that's normally plenty.

For now, I retired v3, to better study all options...

Given the possibility that nitroglass (as int2ext+) is not compatible with severals mounts of partitions that can make some roms, I decided to delete 06mountdl for safety. The problem is that in some spanish roms, 06mountdl tpts provide cache for these small TPTs ...

My idea is to make a script (nearly completed), take your original idea to redirect cache (VERY THANKS), but it can take several conditional intelligently:

A. Decide which is the best size in each case, based on the actual cache for each tpt.
1 - If you have 2mb, assigns 64 (for big downloads of market, like AngryBird-wars)
2 - If you have 35mb, remains at 35, no redirects (NO takes ram)
3 - If you have 64mb, no redirects. (NO takes ram  And do not reduces the cache to 35)

B. (the most difficult), is compatible with (all???) the roms and does not conflict with other previous codes ...


However, taking advantage of your intervention, I think v3 (or similar) would not be a problem for H3, because the sequence of scripts (04nitroglass vs. 06blues) allow the first-script mount a new cache, and for second, to evaluate the condition of start, do any action on the cache (either already resolved or whether it even has time to make the decision) I mean right? What do you think of this, I will be very useful your opinion.

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By the way, this explains the swappiness a little:
http://forum.xda-dev...937&postcount=2
http://zerocredibili...snt-make-sense/


On Android the advantage of no swap is a performance gain. So if on your ROM your memory (SD Card) is slow then H3 Blues will always be faster, although you may not be able to keep as many things running in memory. I've yet to run into any problems with this though.

Well, The swap is another matter ...

Nitroglass is not related to that. Use a system of mounts and symlinks to move apps and dalvik to sd-ext. Maintains /data/data in internal for speed.

However, (although there are different opinions), I studied enough the swap, and have come to the conclusion that their usefulness depends on:

- User profile (for heavy games, for example)
- the speed of your sd
- As you set up the swap ...

In THIS MOD I included other personal-script (PERFECTSWAP) providing swap for any rom and allow configure swappinnes. The idea is:

if you believe that you will not use swap (for various reasons), then put swappinnes to 0.
If you have a SD Class10 and will run heavy games, swappines puts greater. (30-40)
And finally, for users undecided, a value of 10, provides both performance (because I never use) and safety (because timely, in extreme cases, the swap will be activated). I call it "swap-conservative."

if you are interested to try it, I can provide it, of course!

Edited by Viento del Sur, 12 February 2013 - 10:31 PM.

[H3ROS]

Version A of your idea is what H3 Blues already does, minus point 3 as I've not come across anyone using a TPT with a 64MB cache yet. I have it use 35MB of memory instead of 64MB, and I've not tested downloading Angry Birds Star Wars, but nobody has ever said that 35MB wasn't enough. I'll double check that later.

As nitroglass is a lower number I'd expect it to execute before my script, which means you'd be adjusting the cache to 64MB and then H3 Blues would lower that back to 32MB. Not a huge issue, but something you should be made aware of.

The swappiness I figured I'd mention since I've seen spanish ROM's re-enable it. I just wanted to let you know why it's disabled in H3 Blues You see, if I disable it then I can guarantee that the ROM will run fast for everyone, but if it was enabled then for anyone with a class 2 SD card it would become slow over time. I know that can be tweaked like how you've done it via your script, but I opted to disable it as many people don't like to edit files. They just want to install a ROM and use it. Also when I was performing tests with a swap vs. no swap using my class 10 SD card I found that the swap didn't ever really help. Yes, in a way it gave me more memory, but I found that I didn't actually ever need that memory as Android handled everything pretty well and closed the apps I wasn't using. My memory tweaks might of helped a little with that though.

Nice scripting by the way. They're rather clean and laid out well

Edited by H3ROS, 13 February 2013 - 05:28 AM.

[Viento del Sur]

 H3ROS, on 13 February 2013 - 05:26 AM, said:

Version A of your idea is what H3 Blues already does, minus point 3 as I've not come across anyone using a TPT with a 64MB cache yet. I have it use 35MB of memory instead of 64MB, and I've not tested downloading Angry Birds Star Wars, but nobody has ever said that 35MB wasn't enough. I'll double check that later.

On cache size ...

Remember that possibly TPT-stock from factory is the most common ... It has 64mb.

In H3 v2.2 this may be a small problem since 06scritp only evaluates a size 35. In my opinion, that solves the problem to those with 2mb, also does not affect those who are 35, but ... harms those who have the phone without changing the original tpt, because not only reduce your cache but reduce your ram (with tmpfs) Is my thinking correct?

In HTCMania people with 35 (or less) has reported they can not download apps like this:

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(For this reason my idea I said yesterday)

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As nitroglass is a lower number I'd expect it to execute before my script, which means you'd be adjusting the cache to 64MB and then H3 Blues would lower that back to 32MB. Not a huge issue, but something you should be made aware of.

yes, it can be a solution. However, the important thing is that I also recommend nitroglass-v2.1 for H3.  Maybe I should remember your thread (or you can do it yourself, of course)

By the way, I made a mod for your rom + nitroglass and love. Thanks for your great rom.

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Nice scripting by the way. They're rather clean and laid out well

VERY VERY THANKS!!!

Edited by Viento del Sur, 13 February 2013 - 10:30 PM.

[H3ROS]

I'm thinking the original TPT cache size is 32MB, so if you've got a 2MB cache then it'd create a temporary 32MB cache or 64MB in your case, but if you've got an actual 64MB cache then my version of the script would end up making a temporary 32MB cache so the existing 64MB gets wasted. That's an easy fix though as all I need to do is instead check if the cache size is 2MB instead of checking if it's not 32MB

If you like the H3 Blues ROM enough to source from it then you may like the newer ROM I'm working on. It's Gingerbread made to look like JB/ICS and it's actually a little faster and more polished than H3 Blues.

Screenshots:
http://www.modaco.co...00#entry2077367

I'm still working on it, but I think it's going to be rather popular over at htcmania

Edited by H3ROS, 14 February 2013 - 03:19 AM.

[creedence]

http://www.modaco.co...nternal-memory/

[creedence]

http://techcure.word...oid-using-swap/

[H3ROS]

 creedence, on 14 February 2013 - 01:51 PM, said:

http://techcure.word...oid-using-swap/

Like I said though, that actually reduces the ROM's performance on peoples phones who have not upgraded the micro SD card. It's also not really required as Android handles memory rather well and will close what's not needed.

Edited by H3ROS, 14 February 2013 - 05:56 PM.

[Viento del Sur]

Thanks for your contributions. I will discuss my view.

 creedence, on 14 February 2013 - 01:51 PM, said:

http://techcure.word...oid-using-swap/

Swapper2... I've also tested. It is an app ... consumes resources, makes constant calls SuperSU ... It's slow and annoyed ...

Sincerely and honestly (let me say), my script PerfectSawp is much symple and faster, transparent to the user and does not consume system resources ... I've tested them extensively, I assure you! Same object, better managed!

 creedence, on 14 February 2013 - 01:43 PM, said:

http://www.modaco.co...nternal-memory/

Yes, I know him well. I gave it myself known in skate-HTCMania ...

It's very good, recommended. It offers the same as nitroglass. The difference, once again, is the method to makes mounts ... Mainly, int2ext+ moves on each boot /data/data to sd-ext and again moves to the mem. Internal. That takes a lot of time when you have many apps installed. But also moves other sensitive parts of the mem.internal like /data/radio, which sometimes makes it vulnerable because some roms lose much signal (also wifi), especially some 2.3.5. In fact, in some 2.3.5 rom not boot ... Gives less problems in 2.3.7. Also (this is less important) her mounting system produces a small duplicate of some folders, which reduce the total space for 'data'.

It is a alternative, everyone chooses! But be warned, lest anyone think he can fill 2gb, nor nitroglass and nor int2ext+... The limitation is the same in both cases. Only changes the method.

[jtharmor]

Infinite loop afer boot...i am using pj1..Anyone who has used can you publish time for reboot ?

Edited by jtharmor, 15 April 2013 - 01:03 AM.

[jtharmor]

 GeorgR, on 04 February 2013 - 09:23 PM, said:

And anyway the Script is worth a lot of smiles.
I am going crazy, installing more and more apps on my skate :-).
ParanoidJelly and this script are a perfect combination.

How did you install it ? Can you publish step by step guide ? starting with formatting of SD card ?

[jtharmor]

Holy s*** !! I just made it work.....thanks a lot guys

[Falcon_X]

On the htcmania website is also a script with the name: NITROGLASS V2.1+killer

Whats this? +killer?

[eloimuns]

Falcon killer = Delete old scripts included in the rom (Darktemor app2sd and similar script int2ext)

[Falcon_X]

The Script doesn't work for me, I've tried with the newest CFX3, did everything like you said, but the phone still tries to boot (since over 10 minutes).
...and I can't find a download link for v3, do I need this version? I have 2MB cache.

[jtharmor]

 Falcon_X, on 17 April 2013 - 08:38 PM, said:

The Script doesn't work for me, I've tried with the newest CFX3, did everything like you said, but the phone still tries to boot (since over 10 minutes).
...and I can't find a download link for v3, do I need this version? I have 2MB cache.

Did you make ext partition using CWM ? I did that and it worked........before that i had same issue like yours.........

[Falcon_X]

 jtharmor, on 19 April 2013 - 10:05 AM, said:

Did you make ext partition using CWM ? I did that and it worked........before that i had same issue like yours.........

yes. Are you using CFX3, too?