O2 XPhone Question

[Guest IronHide]

Well, after reviewing everyone's efforts, I decided to install the E200 ROM on my XPhone...and, it didn't work.

Followed the instructions to the T through the bootloader/Canary screen, ran update, seems to execute, kinda freaks out my desktop, seems to finish (does it actually tell you the update is complete?) but actually does nothing.

When the updater program closes on my PC, Active Synch immediately starts up. It says it cannot connect due to an "unknown" device...I assume this is because I'm not in the OS of the phone. Then I pull the battery and restart. All my apps/files/customizations are untouched.

What gives!? :?

[Guest spockie]

I think it's your computer, do you have a high end one to try out with? Some slow computers will give a heck lot of problems. I'm running a 2.8G pc, and i really think that slower computers have problems with the installer. REmeber to check your OS as well, meaning you'll need win2k or xp.

Whne you have programs left in your phone after the update, it just means it didnt really install properly (i encountered this when i first installed the ROM, i realised the prob after reinstalling like 3 times)

For it to be properly installed ,check the operator version, should be 2.6 sumthing sumthing. And then you should be able to run the orange homescreen when it first start.

Try again and let us know how it goes.

[Guest IronHide]

Hey spockie - thanks for the tips.

My original Operator Version (1.9.11.4) remains unchanged. I've tried three times on the same PC w/o any luck.

Machine is a Win XP Pro SP1 box:

3.06 GHz HT

1 GB DDR400 RAM

My assumption is the box is beefy enough to handle the update.

I have another machine I'm going to try it on later...similar specs...we'll see what happens.

Now, I don't have to hard reset the phone BEFORE doing the upgrade, do I?

Of course, as I keep reading post after post about the update, there are many complaints. I don't have any of the buzzing, dropped called, or any of that stuff...just crappy battery life and bogus Chinese menu texts. The more this update doesn't work, the more I'm second guessing it! :roll:

[Guest Axioms]

i've flash my Xphone with the orange E200 rom. after the flashing, the O2 bootup screen is changed to the Orange screen. Anyone knows how to change it? registry? :?:

[Guest Nitz_]

hi i'm a newbie here ..

anyone can help me with using the ringtone located on SD card? I'm using Xphone at the moment.

Do u guys said that Xphone has a rom update? How safe is it?

I already using xphone for about 3 months, and my only problem is the battery life! Sometimes i'm already running out of my battery before the end of the day. I mean, what's the point of having all the features but they drains the battery so much u can't use them as freely as u could..

And is there any released desktop charger, charging the battery only? so i could charge my extra battery without using the phone itself.

[Guest mikeyboy]

only Orange had the new ROM no specific new ROM for Xphone - though some Xphone users have tried the Orange ROM. To run ringtones from your storage card you need to install the changer sonnerie application.

[Guest chanceu]

IronHide,

To address your problem with the update and your PC...

I had exactly the same problem, but figured it was just my PC. Here is what I did. On your PC close and save all programs then click Start and Run. Type 'msconfig' and press ENTER. Select 'Selective Startup' and UNCHECK 'Process SYSTEM.INI file', 'Process WIN.INI file', and 'Load Startup Items'. Leave 'Load System Services' checked. Click OK and then choose to reboot your computer. This will reboot your computer with only the bare minimum. When your PC reboots, you will see a dialog that says that your computer has been started without everything loaded (I don't remember the exact text), just ignore that for now. Get your phone to the Canary screen and try the ROM upgrade again. After the upgrade (mine took 20-30 min), click OK on the dialog that popped up after the reboot. Select 'Normal Startup', click OK, and reboot. That will reboot your computer normally.

Again, this worked for me, but I make no guarantees that it will work for anyone else.

[Guest Nitz_]

mikeyboy, i've tried to install the sonnerie, but it seems like it won't read my WMA ringonte files ... most of my ringtones are WMA's .. can u help me with this? All those ringtone reading program is only for WAV and MID ..

is it safe to use the orange ROM on Xphone???

[Guest Nitz_]

mikeyboy, i've tried to install the sonnerie, but it seems like it won't read my WMA ringonte files ... most of my ringtones are WMA's .. can u help me with this? All those ringtone reading program is only for WAV and MID ..

is it safe to use the orange ROM on Xphone???mikeyboy, i've tried to install the sonnerie, but it seems like it won't read my WMA ringonte files ... most of my ringtones are WMA's .. can u help me with this? All those ringtone reading program is only for WAV and MID ..

is it safe to use the orange ROM on Xphone???

[Guest mikeyboy]

The thing about the orange ROM is that installing it will remove all your personalised info e.g. - MMS and internet settings for your own telco etc. I personally dont feel the desire to upgrade to the orange ROM and will await the Xphone version. You will need to download a wav converter there are a few free ones on the web. Heres a quick example found doing a google search - I am sure there are many more.

http://www.allformp3.com/mp3-wma-converter...a-converter.htm

[Guest IronHide]

chanceu,

Thanks for that info. With all that's been said, I'm seriously doubting whether or not I NEED to install this ROM. In any case, having to effectively disable running programs to install a ROM update is really bogus. I've also heard from the guys over at MTEKK that we can use the I-Mate installer and replace it's rom with that of the E200. Any word on that method??

[Guest Nitz_]

well .. thx mikeyboy, but i don't need the wav wma converter, i'm using win media encoder, and my problem is the xphone wont read the wma stored in SD as ringtones..

i'll wait for ROM from O2, i think it's the best .. :D

[Guest chanceu]

IronHide,

I'll be honest, the only reason I updated my ROM was to get rid of the Chinese BlueTooth menus. However, I have noticed a much better battery life.

Don't let the ROM installers issues stop you from upgrading. That's probably a combination of the installer and XP or an antivirus/Internet security program. I've had to use msconfig to boot my PC in what effectively is safe mode to install other things, so I don't fault the ROM installer program.

As far as the I-Mate installer, I don't have a clue. The last I heard, I-Mate does not have a ROM upgrade for the SmartPhone2 so I couldn't say whether another installer might work.

[Guest IronHide]

chanceu,

My main reasons for wanting to install this ROM are the same as yours - replacing chinese characters in bluetooth and IE menus as well as improving poor battery life.

Now, bear with me if I'm being repetitive, but the reason(s) why I'm second guessing this whole update isn't because of the installer or PC issues, rather all the subsequent issues people who've installed this rom are experiencing. Lowered earpiece/speakerphone volume, bluetooth connectivity issues, blah blah blah, everything else that people have written about here.

So, I'm trying to weigh if the two known improvements are worth risking the potential others. Have you experienced ANY of these negative issues on your phone? Also, do remember what your original (pre-Orange update) Operator ROM version was? Mine is 1.9.11.4 which I have not seen on many XPhones – usually an older rom.

Basically, I don’t want to F myself by installing this rom and loosing functionality that I had prior, so I’m still undecided. In any case, thanks much for all your help and input!

[Guest spockie]

Iron Hide, what's there to worry about? Just install the ROM n see how it goes. The fact is that there's the chinese OS rom on the Xphone website. SO if you dont like the e200 rom, just go back to your old chinese version.

The only problem i have with the E200 Rom is the occoasional SD lockup. But other than that, the beats the crap out of the old xphone rom....

By the way, i have no connectivity issue at all. I think it's that the old rom n new rom have different kind of configuration settings for bluetooth etc.

Can you confirm that those with the chinese rom, their operator is the same ver as yours? or is it just that your phone has that version.

Oh trust me, i've installed the e200 rom 4 times under various conditions and i did have different results.

Then again, it's your phone. If you wanna do it, just do it already. If not then just wait. Dont hesitate man...=)

[Guest chanceu]

IronHide,

I have no idea what my old firmware version was. I haven't had any problems with the Orange ROM, but I can't say that I've used all the functionality of the phone either. The only real issue I'm having is I cannot get MMS to work with AT&T, but I doubt that has anything to do with the upgrade.

I have no problem with the earpiece volume and have not had any issues with BlueTooth. However, I couldn't get it to work prior to the upgrade (don't read Chinese), so I can't compare old to new.

Ultimately, the decision is yours. I upgraded because I was unhappy with the phone the way it was. Actually, I was to a point where I considered buying an E200 or SmartPhone2 then I started reading about this ROM upgrade.

I don't know if the original XPhone ROM is available anywhere for you to downgrade, but if it is (like the other post said), do it and if you don't like it, go back.

Good Luck

[Guest samuel337]

Just want to clarify, the Chinese update on the xphone site only restores the o2 customisation files (e.g. home screens, task manager etc.) - IT IS NOT THE CHINESE ROM. It is designed to be used when people do a hard reset or use the clear storage function and want the o2 customisation back.

The other thing is, if the version numbers are comparable (between the E200 and the xphone), my version numbers are:

Radio version 1.12.00

Operator: 1.9.11.4

Manufacturer: 1.9.11.2

Microsoft: 4.20.13291.0

Language: 1.9.11.2

Is the orange ROM update really an update to this (i.e. are the version numbers greater?)?

Sam

[Guest IronHide]

samuel337 is right. The download from O2's website isn't a ROM, just a reinstaller for some of the O2 apps/customizations...the file is only 222KB! I wish they'd post even the most current ROM just incase...that would make this whole mess easier!

Also, my version numbers (xphone) match yours exactly...interesting.

[Guest samuel337]

Sorry, i forgot to indicate that I have a xphone, NOT a E200.

Sam

[Guest IronHide]

So you and I have the same ROM version...what problems are you experiencing w/ the phone? I'd just like to compare and contrast. Do you think you'll do the E200 ROM upgrade?

[Guest samuel337]

I don't seem to have many problems, definitely not any buzzing problems. But the battery life is a bit dud, 1.5 days doing the minimal on it (sending 1 SMS, i think...). Its also a bit annoying that I can't send and receive files via bluetooth...

I don't know about applying the E200 ROM, that's why I want to know if the version numbers are actually greater because I know that when the xphone was released, it had a newer version on it than the E200 which was released before the xphone.

Sam

[Guest spockie]

Sorry about the misinfo on the CHinese ROM, hehe, but why didnt they have that option for the english ver? hmmm

From what i gather, the chinese rom has a diff ver compared to the english rom. I dont think theres much diff apart from the OS language that's why you see a diff number.

By the way, why dd you all buy the chinese Rom ones considering you guys dont speak/read chinese? or correct me if i'm wrong that you guys do.....

[Guest samuel337]

By the way, why dd you all buy the chinese Rom ones considering you guys dont speak/read chinese? or correct me if i'm wrong that you guys do.....

I bought the Chinese version coz it was released in first in HK then Australia (where I live), and as I was in HK at the time, I bought it there (otherwise I wouldn've had to wait another 3 months (it came out in HK in January, and in Aust in March).

[Guest creature777]

Do any one have problem controlling the "joystick", I found sometime it is easier to use the number selections to netvigate

[Guest samuel337]

I guess sometimes when you try to 'click' (press down) on the joystick, it scrolls down instead - if you know what i mean