Guest Paul [MVP] Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 They said they weren't going to do it... but here's the official press release :) Opera Software Announces The Opera Browser for Windows Mobile Oslo, Norway - August 31, 2004 Opera Software today announced that its revolutionary Opera smartphone browser will soon become available for Microsoft Windows Mobile software. Windows Mobile is a completely new platform for Opera, offering operators, handset vendors, enterprises and end users more choice of platforms that provide outstanding Web browsing on small, restricted smartphone screens. Opera's range of smartphone browsers includes Small-Screen Rendering (SSR) technology, an Opera innovation that enables users to browse regular Web pages for the first time on small mobile screens by reformatting the page and thus eliminating the need for horizontal scrolling. "Operators want to offer their subscribers the same Internet and brand experience on all the different handsets coming from the various manufacturers, necessitating a fully integrated cross-platform browser," says Rolf Assev, Executive Vice President Business Development, Marketing and Strategic Alliances, Opera Software ASA. "We've heard the market's call, and we're responding. Opera will soon offer a new Internet experience with Windows Mobile-based Smartphones." "Microsoft is excited to see the increased level of innovation and opportunity generated by the broad adoption of Windows Mobile-based devices," said Mark Spain, director of the Mobile and Embedded Devices Group at Microsoft Corp. "Opera's support of the Windows Mobile platform delivers more choice to mobile operators and customers and demonstrates the openness of the platform." Bring it on :P P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pagemakers Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 Does it support frames :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Palindrome Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 Fantastic. I've been hoping for ages! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vector Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 Does it support frames :) Good q, i'd like to know this to...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest djfuego Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 It's about time Opera hit smartphone. good stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shaks Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 Excellent news this, now we have more choice on Smartphone too. I don't use IE on my PC, use mozilla firefox instead. Shaks P.S what's that phone in the picture? Is it a real phone or just some kind of a mockup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jakob Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 Opera for Symbian supports frames.. /J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul [MVP] Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 It's the emulator from the development kit. P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pagemakers Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 But can it do frames? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RickDawson Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 But can it do frames? I'd love it if it could :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Disco Stu Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 Quick summary of Opera benefits over IE, please ? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pierre Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 Yeah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Simon Desser Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 If it doesn't support frames (I'd like to think it does), then I can't really see any massive advantage over PIE, as the main other advantage of Opera is Small Screen Rendering, which PIE on 2003 does perfectly well. Oh, and it will probably do "full screen" browsing which would be nice :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pagemakers Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 When I owned a 6600/P900 Opera was far worse than PIE in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest maxh2003 Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 Here's hoping for: * customisable User Agents, so all those websites that detect my phone as having a rubbish browser, can be tricked; * tabbed (or multiple-window) browsing, AKA "Open in New Window" - we badly need this IMO... * at least *some kind of attempt* to handle frames * java applets in-line (well, it *could* happen) * "Save Target As" - text *and* pictures * zoom in / zoom out - as distinct from Text Size options - so one can see the page in its entirety (albeit unreadable) * a GPRS usage counter * registered version and a chicken dinner for less than £10 (while noting that Opera for PC is currently 39USD) :edit: When I owned a 6600/P900 Opera was far worse than PIE in my opinion. Oh dear God, can this be true?! In what ways would you say it was worse? I'm struggling to conceive of a browser that could be substantially worse than PIE. Was it unable to format text, or something? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chucky.egg Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 * customisable User Agents, so all those websites that detect my phone as having a rubbish browser, can be tricked;I think Opera for Symbian does this * tabbed (or multiple-window) browsing, AKA "Open in New Window" - we badly need this IMO... Opera for Symbian DOES do this * a GPRS usage counterI doubt it will do this, and even if it does it will only monitor GPRS usage for surfing - not your emails - so not much use * registered version and a chicken dinner for less than £10 (while noting that Opera for PC is currently 39USD) Opera for Symbian UIQ is free (subsidised by Sony Ericsson) In my experience Opera was far superior to the UIQ built in browser, how it might compare to PIE is anyone's guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest maxh2003 Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 Opera for Symbian UIQ is free (subsidised by Sony Ericsson)LOL, hands up all those who reckon Orange or HTC will subsidise Opera for Smartphone? ... thought so! even if it does it will only monitor GPRS usage for surfing OK, I admit I was getting a little over-optimistic at that point!! :-D WONDERFUL news about the tabbed browsing, though... assuming that MS Opera >= Symbian Opera... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ultimasnake Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 hmmm well That will mean that Smart browser will become imintent soon :S but ok grand news never the less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest maxh2003 Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 hmmm well... Smart Browser won't be obsolete if Opera is paid-for, and I guess we wait-and-see on that one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ultimasnake Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 true true :) thanks :0true true :P thanks :0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest efjay Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 hmmm well That will mean that Smart browser will become imintent soon :S but ok grand news never the less Even if Opera is free, choices are always good, i'd like to see Smart Browser continue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cybertronic Posted August 31, 2004 Report Share Posted August 31, 2004 Opera took way too much memory space, which causes to slow down my entire phone which was a Nokia 3650 :P Good thing is that the E200 has more memory than these Symbian Series 60 phones :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chucky.egg Posted September 1, 2004 Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 Oh, yeah, I'd forgotten about that! On my P900 Opera takes *ALL* of the memory - it closes just about everything you have open in order to load a simple page, and it also still gives you "out of memory" messages. It does work, and I quite like it, but the "out of memory" messages were a pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dearsina Posted September 1, 2004 Report Share Posted September 1, 2004 Let us recap, so far we have the possibilty of frames, which is cool, but how the hell do you navigate? The reason frames aren't supported already is that you can't "lift" your cursor, any movement will move the page, now if there are two pages (ie. frames) present simultaniously, which one should the cursor move? And how on earth is it going to fit into the window? A framless site barely fits in. Frames is a nice idea, but practially useless (on the SPV that is). There was also a mention of tabbed browsing, because the GPRS download speed is so great that one page at a time simply isn't enough... Actually, this could be nice, if you can preload a page while reading another. And finally a mention of Java, which even brings my desktop IE to a grinding halt + I have yet to see a single web-java app that does something Flash or javascript can't do much better/faster (no thank you Sun). I for one will not be running Opera simply becuase I have a grudge against Bills empire. sina london /doesn't think Bill is the devil respawned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ravis Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 If it doesn't support frames (I'd like to think it does), then I can't really see any massive advantage over PIE, as the main other advantage of Opera is Small Screen Rendering, which PIE on 2003 does perfectly well. Remember that not all of us are blessed with 2003 devices though. For those of us stuck with the original OS, ANYTHING to replace PIE would be welcome. Do you remember the original PIE? Would you wish that upon even your worst enemy? ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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