Guest SolidTechie Posted November 10, 2004 Report Posted November 10, 2004 Now, here's a tough one. For reasons which I won't go into at the moment, I'm still running beta 8 - I will try the upgrade tomorrow, and see if the problem persists. With the change to GMT, I managed somehow, to set my clock, to ten hours behind- don't ask. The following day, when I was looking to see why I nearly missed my stop on the train, I corrected the time, but wondered, what the effect would be on a daily repeating alarm, if it was missed on say Monday - would it fire on Tuesday. What I did next is a bit hazey (sorry) but I do remember that I changed the day to Tuesday, tested a newly created test alarm, and then changed the day back to Monday. Now, I realised that I had triggered the Tuesday alarm, so the daily repeating alarm was now not due to fire again until Wednesday - bearing in mind it's still only Monday. Now That's fair enough, but I wanted to correct that, so I switched the phone off (I may have even removed the battery, I don't recall) and back on again. This apparently worked, in that the next alarm showed as being due on Tuesday. The problem (there had to be one didn't there!) is, that although the alarm triggers, it doesn't sound an alarm - nor does the app regain focus. Not the daily alarm, or any number of new alarms that I''ve added. I've changed/checked the parameters, I don't have it set to silent or meeting, I've tried with default/non default sounds, with or without vibrate. nothing works - except, the alarms turn red. I figure that it's a) to do with the change of day and :lol: my own fault. I guess I'm not asking you to fix it - I expect that doing a reinstall will probably cure this, however, I thought it worth noting.
Guest nickcornaglia Posted November 10, 2004 Report Posted November 10, 2004 An odd thing about the smartphone...maybe it's related. If you set an alrm in one time zone...then switch to a differnet time zone...the alarm function get's all confused. You usually cant correct it unless you revert back to the original timezone you created the alarm in. This is not a bug in CityTime Alarms but in the phone itself. I dont know if it's related to your problem but thought it worth mentioning.
Guest kennyg Posted November 10, 2004 Report Posted November 10, 2004 An odd thing about the smartphone...maybe it's related. If you set an alrm in one time zone...then switch to a differnet time zone...the alarm function get's all confused. You usually cant correct it unless you revert back to the original timezone you created the alarm in. This is not a bug in CityTime Alarms but in the phone itself. I dont know if it's related to your problem but thought it worth mentioning. Thanks for the hint encece! I wrote code in the app to handle time changes, timezone changes and an extra check at power on, but alas, the events that cause this are NOT installed by the setup code. So these things CAN cause alarms to stop sounding. I'll come up with an update ASAP (I was anyway) along with the missing RED expired alarms in some themes and the '...' problem. Thanks ALL, Kenny.
Guest meisocool Posted November 10, 2004 Report Posted November 10, 2004 Not speaking for kenny... Trial and Beta are over....now ya gotta buy it :D lol that might be true :twisted: .....what about u?have u buy it yet? :lol: btw what is the price kenny? :?
Guest nickcornaglia Posted November 10, 2004 Report Posted November 10, 2004 lol that might be true :twisted: .....what about u?have u buy it yet? :lol: btw what is the price kenny? :? Although I begged and begged to purchase it...I was priveledged to receive a copy for beta testing and providing feedback. You can buy it on Handango.
Guest SolidTechie Posted November 10, 2004 Report Posted November 10, 2004 Just upgraded my version to the release version. My thoughts: The installer asks to uninstall the previous version, I say OK. It then says (I can't remember exactly the wording) something about removing a database, and only to say yes if City Alarms is not installed - given that I've just agreed to let the installer remove it, this is somewhat confusing, leading me to suspect that under normal circumstances, I should select Yes. In any event, I selected no- thinking that it would preserve my alarms, and save me having to input that info again - given my previous report, I wanted to see if the upgrade would cure the problem. Clearly I was wrong, as it then asks the same question about the alarm database - to which I also reply no. The good news is, that it appears to have resolved the issue - in that I set a new alarm immediately, and it sounded out long and loud. Also, I can't be sure, but I think the installation has left two temp files in the directory where I launched the cab file from - I assume that it's safe to delete them? HTH..
Guest exe Posted November 10, 2004 Report Posted November 10, 2004 Just upgraded my version to the release version. It then says (I can't remember exactly the wording) something about removing a database, and only to say yes if City Alarms is not installed - given that I've just agreed to let the installer remove it, this is somewhat confusing, leading me to suspect that under normal circumstances, I should select Yes.It does ask you to remove the databases if CityTimes, which is a different application (!), is not installed, if it is, the other app will probably fail since they both share databases from what i can presume. :D Also, I can't be sure, but I think the installation has left two temp files in the directory where I launched the cab file from - I assume that it's safe to delete them? I would presume its safe to remove them, they might even get auto-removed when you reboot (eek) your phone. :lol:
Guest kennyg Posted November 10, 2004 Report Posted November 10, 2004 Just upgraded my version to the release version. My thoughts: The installer asks to uninstall the previous version, I say OK. It then says (I can't remember exactly the wording) something about removing a database, and only to say yes if City Alarms is not installed - given that I've just agreed to let the installer remove it, this is somewhat confusing, leading me to suspect that under normal circumstances, I should select Yes.There are actually two seperate processes at work here. The smartphone software itself detects that CityTime Alarms is already installed and forces you to uninstall, instead of just copying over the new files. To me this is unfortunate for the user, the Pocket PC didn't work this way and it makes updates more painful. The second prompt asks if you have CityTime installed and if so not to remove the City/Time zone databases. This is because the CityTime and CityTime Alarms program share those databases. This probably only makes sense to those that have the other product installed, so I'll look at simplifiying the question. The third prompt is for just the alarms themselves, maybe this should have been the first question? I'll re-evaluate the order... In any event, I selected no- thinking that it would preserve my alarms, and save me having to input that info again - given my previous report, I wanted to see if the upgrade would cure the problem. Clearly I was wrong, as it then asks the same question about the alarm database - to which I also reply no. The good news is, that it appears to have resolved the issue - in that I set a new alarm immediately, and it sounded out long and loud. Also, I can't be sure, but I think the installation has left two temp files in the directory where I launched the cab file from - I assume that it's safe to delete them? HTH.. The temp files were left there by the smartphone, my install doesn't create them itself, can you tell me the names of the files so I can check it out? And I am making an update that will add further checks as discussed in one of the posts previous to this. Thanks, Kenny.
Guest SolidTechie Posted November 10, 2004 Report Posted November 10, 2004 The third prompt is for just the alarms themselves, maybe this should have been the first question? I'll re-evaluate the order...Personally, I think that would have made more sense. The temp files were left there by the smartphone, my install doesn't create them itself, can you tell me the names of the files so I can check it out? And I am making an update that will add further checks as discussed in one of the posts previous to this. No problem. I have TMP0010.tmp (71.5k) and TMP0011.tmp(152k). What made me wonder, was that they both are dated 19/10/2004 and time stamped 10:02 - I only installed today, and later than that time. I can send them to you if you like.
Guest lukeap69 Posted November 10, 2004 Report Posted November 10, 2004 thanks kenny, i received the code. one problem i found is if the built-in alarm coincides with the alarm set in the citytime alarms, the whole thing just mess up. lukeap 69
Guest nickcornaglia Posted November 11, 2004 Report Posted November 11, 2004 I had the same problem. Didnt know my built in alarm was set this AM and couldnt get it to shut off without shutting down. Is this a built in feature because someone told yoy that I cant get my ass out of bed in the AM?!
Guest MorphFx Posted November 11, 2004 Report Posted November 11, 2004 Thanks Kenny, I just downloaded the latest and greatest and it's looping nicely. I set loops to 8 and works fine. Here's a funky loop for y'all to wake up to in the morning, 8-bit 22.khz so nice and small 40 KB. I note the alarm will play 8 bars, 3 times, is there a place where you can set how many time alarm rings out? (sorry for asking, probably an answer in this thread somewhere). 8)Whoayeah.WAV
Guest scottb Posted November 12, 2004 Report Posted November 12, 2004 Hi Kenny, I noticed today that when I set the alarm volume in the application's defaults, it does not affect the alarm's volume--it always sound off at the "loud" setting. If I set the volume from witin the individual alarm's setttings, the volume function works fine.
Guest kennyg Posted November 12, 2004 Report Posted November 12, 2004 Hi Kenny, I noticed today that when I set the alarm volume in the application's defaults, it does not affect the alarm's volume--it always sound off at the "loud" setting. If I set the volume from witin the individual alarm's setttings, the volume function works fine. I'll look into it, I plan a release for this weekend with a few minor issues. Thanks! Kenny.
Guest SolidTechie Posted November 15, 2004 Report Posted November 15, 2004 I don't know if this has changed from earlier versions and I didn't spot it before, but when setting up a new alarm the app defaults to tomorrow's date. For use as an alarm clock, that's terrific, but, I suspect that many of the users, including me, use the programme for other reminder typr functions, and in my case, mostly, they are for "later today" rather than tomorrow. Can this be user defined perhaps? And another - again, no biggie. Set up a timer, when I pressed "done", it showed in the list view as expired - even though I had just set it up, and not yet run it.
Guest kennyg Posted November 15, 2004 Report Posted November 15, 2004 I don't know if this has changed from earlier versions and I didn't spot it before, but when setting up a new alarm the app defaults to tomorrow's date. For use as an alarm clock, that's terrific, but, I suspect that many of the users, including me, use the programme for other reminder typr functions, and in my case, mostly, they are for "later today" rather than tomorrow. Can this be user defined perhaps? Alarms default to 6am, either the same day if it is before the next day if it is past. I am willing to make this smarter, any ideas? Maybe always default to one hour in the future? Four hours? And another - again, no biggie. Set up a timer, when I pressed "done", it showed in the list view as expired - even though I had just set it up, and not yet run it. Timers, when new, start off in the kinda 'new' state and after they are dismissed once, they enter a dismissed state from then on, I've been going back and forth about changing that, as I didn't know how long to show a dismissed timer as dismissed. I want to make sure if someone is watching their timers that they can see, if only for a short while, that the timer was in fact dismissed, maybe for a time of say, 10 minutes after? Thanks, Kenny.
Guest scottb Posted November 15, 2004 Report Posted November 15, 2004 Alarms default to 6am, either the same day if it is before the next day if it is past. I am willing to make this smarter, any ideas? Maybe always default to one hour in the future? Four hours? Kenny, I've found this to be a minor nuisance also. My preference would be to have the default time be some time in the near future, relative to the current time, rather than 6 AM. Perhaps 2 or 4 hours in the future. Thanks, Scott
Guest drblow Posted November 15, 2004 Report Posted November 15, 2004 I was just thinking about the default settings for new alarms. It would be good to be able to predefine it a bit. I tend to use one main alarm for getting up in the morning, which I just edit every day (I rarely get up at the same time). Often when I edit it thoug, I AM getting up at the same time, and in the edit screen, all that changes is the date. So I don't actually need to change anything, but I have to rewrite the alarm time otherwise it won't save the settings - know what I mean? It would be good even to have a few templates that could be defined to have a specific alarm time (eg. 9 am) and give it a default date function (eg one day ahead). It would be proper ace if that could be set as a default so that when you open an alarm, or edit one, the template shows up. Would anything like that be possible?
Guest kennyg Posted November 15, 2004 Report Posted November 15, 2004 Hi Kenny, I noticed today that when I set the alarm volume in the application's defaults, it does not affect the alarm's volume--it always sound off at the "loud" setting. If I set the volume from witin the individual alarm's setttings, the volume function works fine. I just fixed this, thanks for the find. If I can get consensus on the defaults, I can get out a release today. Also, I have a option I added for a work around on the keylock/alarm situation, it's kind of a hack, but it has worked for me without side effect. The default is to NOT use the hack, but I added it in for all you folks who find this really important. Kenny.
Guest I. C. Monsters Posted November 15, 2004 Report Posted November 15, 2004 Also, I have a option I added for a work around on the keylock/alarm situation, it's kind of a hack, but it has worked for me without side effect. The default is to NOT use the hack, but I added it in for all you folks who find this really important. I would be very interested to see how this hack works. Is this available now or is it in the next update?
Guest fozzie Posted November 15, 2004 Report Posted November 15, 2004 I'm quite happy with the alarm default as it is; just my 2p worth :lol: Look forward very much to trying the keylock hack. Posted from my SmartPhone!
Guest sbsdegb1 Posted November 22, 2004 Report Posted November 22, 2004 Kenny I have been using the Beta version and just upgraded to the V1.0.0. Like the new themes. However one thing I have noticed is that in world clock view the date on the secong timezone is showing as Mon 22/11/2 ... The date on the current location is fine. Not sure if this is a bug or perhaps a small lining up error. Doesn't make the app unusable by any means but thought you might want to know. Otherwise a fantastic little app. I use it as my main alarm for waking me up in the morning.
Guest Lojt Posted November 22, 2004 Report Posted November 22, 2004 One thing i found: When the headset volume is turned down and the keypad is locked, no sound is coming from the alarm... Probably because it cant turn up the volume? (i noticed it does this) Another thing, is it possible to have it turn down the headset volume again to where it was when dismissing? I like having it turned down so theres no sound when playing games etc.
Guest jogges Posted December 6, 2004 Report Posted December 6, 2004 Hello All, I'm looking for about a dozen beta testers for an alarms program called CityTime Alarms. Features include: - An unlimited number of alarms, count up and count down timers. - Two skins (see bitmaps) - Repeatable alarms (support a date range and daily/monthly/annual alarms) - Volume/Sound/Location(Timezone)/Notification Style is selectable on a per alarm basis. - Includes several alarm style sounds, will play any wav file. - It coexists with or separate from CityTime, for location information so you can tie your alarms to the local time or a separate time zone! Email me at kennyg AT codecity.net for information. Beta testers providing feedback will get a free copy! Please send me the model of your phone, Smartphone version. It will require a software unlocked smartphone. Thanks, Kenny Code City Limited hi i want to join i got a mpx 200 unlocked Yours sincerly John Søgaard [email protected]
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