Guest yzbob Posted January 16, 2003 Report Share Posted January 16, 2003 thanks to all the people that produced the "newbie friendly" guides to doing this, i managed it successfully 1st time last night. and just have a few questions 1. does this invalidate my warentee? 2. can i put the phone back to the way orange had it without them ever knowing i had done this? 3. is there anything else i need to do to stop orange updating the phone back (i have read the whole topic and i know there is some discussion about deleting certain files, but does anyone have a conclusive solution) thanks again to all the people that made this possible. if orange spent as much effort working with you rather than against you they would have everything solved by now im sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest J1A1H Posted January 16, 2003 Report Share Posted January 16, 2003 Is this safe can it totally mess up your phone and wants it is uncertified what are u able to do with it? a few examples please thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Monolithix [MVP] Posted January 16, 2003 Report Share Posted January 16, 2003 davem1919: Had the same file names on my spv as well, which edited and had unlocked within 10 minutes. I'm just re-reading the cnet article then will probably send off some hate mail as well ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spacemonkey Posted January 16, 2003 Report Share Posted January 16, 2003 and just have a few questions 1. does this invalidate my warentee? 2. can i put the phone back to the way orange had it without them ever knowing i had done this? 3. is there anything else i need to do to stop orange updating the phone back (i have read the whole topic and i know there is some discussion about deleting certain files, but does anyone have a conclusive solution) 1. Orange could try that I spose, but at the end of the day an ordinary hard reset sets it back to normal without a trace so they'd have no way of knowing you've done this. 2. Yes, just do a normal hard reset 3. Bit unknown, Orange could potentially "fix" your phone it 2 ways I know of, by sending you an update through Orange Update. If a ROM update comes out, I'd wait until someone tried it and confirmed whether it breaks this or not. Orange is also theoretically able to push XML updates to your phone (this is how they should be enabling developer phones). They could potentially use this to close the hole and the current guess is that this might relate to EzPushRouter which is part of startup (/IPSM/Windows/Startup) so some more paranoid people have removed this from startup. It's still on the phone, just doesn't run in the background all the time. Time will tell on this issue... The process is inherintly "safe" although I can't provide any guarantees, as long as your phone can successfully hard reset this technique can always be reversed by hard reseting again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SUKY Posted January 16, 2003 Report Share Posted January 16, 2003 HAS ANYONE GOT ANY PROGRAMS FOR THE SPV ONCE UNLOCKED... OR SITE ??? P.S UNLOCKED MY PHONE TODAY WICKED ????? ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Firaas Posted January 16, 2003 Report Share Posted January 16, 2003 By the way, for anyone concerned, following the procedure to unlock your phone from certification does not invalidate the warranty. If Orange try this, ask them to refer it to their legal department, and mention to them that they did not inform you originally that such a procedure would invalidate the warranty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gears Posted January 16, 2003 Report Share Posted January 16, 2003 I'm getting people saying that their phone is now unlocked - and are running software on it, but when they check the two MXIPxxxxx files, the security settings are back the same as before?.. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spacemonkey Posted January 16, 2003 Report Share Posted January 16, 2003 Checking the files means nothing. Each reboot /windows is reset so the files get set back. The two files are ONLY used by the OS once on first boot from a hard reset. The information is then written into the registry which exists maybe in /IPSM or something. The best way to check whether the phone is right is to try to install something to it, like the PHM Registry manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kallisti Posted January 16, 2003 Report Share Posted January 16, 2003 Because they're stored in EEPROM (like read only memory, but you can write to it... ;) ), so when you reboot, any change you made are lost. However, this is not the DB that's being fiddled with, that one is on the phone's flash memory, so isn't lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gears Posted January 16, 2003 Report Share Posted January 16, 2003 ..it's false for Orange to say that we'd need to do this each time we reboot? http://uk.biz.yahoo.com/030116/80/djo5k.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SUKY Posted January 16, 2003 Report Share Posted January 16, 2003 where can i get copy of PHM Registry manager from please!!!! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul [MVP] Posted January 16, 2003 Report Share Posted January 16, 2003 www.phm.lu P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SUKY Posted January 16, 2003 Report Share Posted January 16, 2003 any games site you no about Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul [MVP] Posted January 16, 2003 Report Share Posted January 16, 2003 These UNSIGNED games are available from Handango... All confirmed working... (I'm playing em!) Turjah: http://www.handango.com/PlatformProductDet...productId=45977 Saffron: http://www.handango.com/PlatformProductDet...productId=45973 Boyan: http://www.handango.com/PlatformProductDet...productId=45978 Enjoy! P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Firaas Posted January 16, 2003 Report Share Posted January 16, 2003 I think either: Orange is trying to calm the press down and stop them ranting about how vulnerable the SPV is or Orange genuinely believe that the SPV workaround only works til restart - perhaps they're basing this on just checking the provxml files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Firaas Posted January 16, 2003 Report Share Posted January 16, 2003 TheReg has articled the work-around again. http://212.100.234.54/content/59/28898.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kmon Posted January 16, 2003 Report Share Posted January 16, 2003 Please help i have been waiting all day to get home from work to use may cradle to sync and apply the cert fix but i DO NOT have (or can see) the two files for editing. not under the said names anyhow.... me have been having major probs with lock up and have had a new phone recently you don't think they have got onto this and ammend the window dir????? please help..... keen to get on-IF you know what i mean. ;) kmon... :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Thistle Posted January 16, 2003 Report Share Posted January 16, 2003 ...make sure u have selected show all hidden files and folders selected in windows in order to c the files Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kmon Posted January 16, 2003 Report Share Posted January 16, 2003 thanks mate... worked a treat..... kmon 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SUKY Posted January 16, 2003 Report Share Posted January 16, 2003 cheers!!! Paul ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest awarner [MVP] Posted January 16, 2003 Report Share Posted January 16, 2003 TheReg has articled the work-around again.http://212.100.234.54/content/59/28898.html I liked the final part of that story.. The 'certified app only' route allows whoever owns the distribution channel to tithe the developers, and they're probably more interested in the 'few developers, big bucks' model from the games console industry than in small and solo developers who often will make very little, or even - horror - give the stuff away. Playing the security card therefore comes in handy if you see dealing with these guys as unprofitable, more trouble than it's worth, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SUKY Posted January 16, 2003 Report Share Posted January 16, 2003 Just download a trial virsion of TURJah install it on IPSMWINDOWSSTART MENUGAMES GETTING ERROR MESSAGE turjah is not a vaild windows CE application. Do I have to do the hard Reset Again!!!!!! MyTools works ok Ish it displays the clock but why I getting this error message.. above with turjah :oops: is it because of the trial version of the game??? or do I have to Pay for the full Version??? Please Help!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spacemonkey Posted January 16, 2003 Report Share Posted January 16, 2003 Turjah works fine on mine. How much phone memory do you have free? It's probably pretty demanding on resources... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SUKY Posted January 16, 2003 Report Share Posted January 16, 2003 about 4 meg on sd card do i install on the phone or on my p.c ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul [MVP] Posted January 16, 2003 Report Share Posted January 16, 2003 SUKY: Run the .EXE file on your PC to install. P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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