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Cingular 2125: Everything you need to know


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Guest jeffogden

Can you back up to a older ROM or factory reset a Cingular 2125? I would also like to know how to change the default installation location to my storage card. I'm a newbie so please explain in lamens terms.

Thank you,

Jeff Ogden

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I’m trying to get Japanese language packs to run on my phone, I’ve installed all the software from this page http://www.suninet.org/japinput/on my 2125 following the instructions found on this page http://www.firstloox.org/forums/showthread...ge=12&pp=15, but still cant gat anything to work. Has anyone else tried to do this, if so has anyone found a solution to this problem?

Thanks for the help.

(This is my first post, please forgive (and teach) me if I accidentally do something wrong)

First of all, a big THANK YOU to patrickjamesg for posting all the excellent information about the 2125! I bought mine just last week and have really enjoyed hacking it (and unfortunately, also have had to reinstall the original ROM a couple of times). Oh, speaking of which, has anybody found a utility yet to delete 'system' files? Over the course of many crashes I discovered that on reboot, I'd see new directories named 'Storage Card2', 'Storage Card3', etc. presumably because some file had been locked in the original 'Storage Card' directory so it couldn't be used (yes, I had used the hacks described here to move my IE cache and Outlook files to my miniSD card).

Anyway, I'm happy to report that I have been able to install Japanese fonts on my 2125! The following link describes how to install Chinese fonts:

http://echerng.net/blog/2006/07/24/install...-cingular-2125/

Instead of the font described there, use 'msgothic.ttf' as the font file and 'MS Gothic' as the font name and it'll work for Japanese. (Oh, and sorry but I'm not sure where I got my 'msgothic.ttf' font file from--I think it was installed automatically for me when I enabled Asian font support in WinXP Pro?) I haven't successfully installed a Japanese IME (Input Method Editor) yet, however. I did try installing one I found on the net somewhere that required replacing my wince.nls file, but not only did that not add Japanese font support to my 2125, but it also disabled my normal keypad entry methods so all I could enter were digits! It seems that most of the IME info is relevant to Pocket PCs and not Windows Smartphones. Anyway, if anybody else is able to figure the IME part out, please let me know, thanks. Oh, incidentally, the Japanese fonts look great with both Pocket IE and Opera Mini.

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Guest miershpedankl

Ok - I've looked everywhere and I need to ask -- Is there a WiFi hack/tweak for the Cingular 2125? I was browsing my files and saw that there is WiFi info in regedit, sooo - Is this a hardware issue, or a Cingular blocking a freaking cool software issue? I really want WiFi!!

Thanks,

miershpedankl

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Et all -- BEWARE!! :rolleyes: Cingular will tell you that your Cingular 2125, 8125, or 3125 is insurable, BUT IT IS NOT. I've been paying for insurance since March, 2006 and I was recently informed that NO CINGULAR SMARTPHONE/POCKET PC/ETC is insurable. They are supposed to be reimbursing me for the proper amount. This is something to consider if you are thinking about buying a SmartPhone. You can call the Cingular Insurance company at 888-562-8662 [Change country code ...] to verify this information.

Cheers,

miershpedankl

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Ok - I've looked everywhere and I need to ask -- Is there a WiFi hack/tweak for the Cingular 2125? I was browsing my files and saw that there is WiFi info in regedit, sooo - Is this a hardware issue, or a Cingular blocking a freaking cool software issue? I really want WiFi!!

Thanks,

miershpedankl

im pretty sure that its a hardware issue. I believe when someone open up their 2125 there was a spot where wifi was supposed to go...

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im pretty sure that its a hardware issue. I believe when someone open up their 2125 there was a spot where wifi was supposed to go...

Yes, there is NO wifi chip in the 2125.

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Guest palmarian
Hey guys. I've had my Cingular 2125 for about 3 weeks now, and it took me a week of searching through this website to get all the info I needed. I figured I'd create this new thread with all the information I found packed into one complete page. Thanks to everyone on this site who posted all this info. Enjoy! :)

First off, if you're a newbie like me, you'll need to know that the Cingular 2125 is also known as the Orange SPV C600, and they're both manufactured by HTC as the HTC Faraday. The HTC Tornado (iMate SP5) is a similar Windows Mobile 5.0 smartphone, and most of the tweaks/programs for it will work on the 2125 as well.

TIP: Key locking your phone :idea:

I'm sure you've had a hard time pressing the power button for the quick option to lock your keys. All you have to do is press and hold the End Call key "red phone button" and it'll lock the keys. Then just unlock like normal.

If you haven't bought a miniSD card, I suggest you do so. You can't install any games or applications on your phone because of space limitations, leave alone music and videos. I bought a Topram 1 Gig miniSD on eBay for $80. I'm sure most brands/sizes will work, but I know that Topram works and I haven't had any problems with it.

All programs listed are attached at the bottom of this post. When installing programs, I created a "Downloads" folder on my storage card to store the zip/CAB files. Use the "Explore" button on the Activesync window and double-click on the "My Windows Mobile-Based Device" icon. Then double-click on Storage Card, and the then right-click and create a new folder.

Also, when installing games and other programs from your pc (like TCPMP, ClearVue, etc), you'll be asked where to install the program. Scroll right on the box that says "Device" so that it says "\Storage Card".

OK, here we go:

1:Application unlocking your phone:

Your 2125 is application locked, meaning you can't install certain programs/games/tweaks. To unlock it, as well as for future tweaks, you'll need a Registry Editor to accomplish the task. Use Regedit STG (attached below) because it's the trusted version of regedit from HTC.

1. Using Activesync Explorer, copy Regedit STG.zip to Downloads (or the folder of your choice) on the storage card. Then, using File Mangaer on your phone, browse to that folder and Unpack/Extract the contents of Regedit STG.zip.

Create a new folder in the phone memory (not storage card) or just use "\My Documents" and move the Regedit.exe file to this folder. It does not seem to work when it's used straight from the miniSD card.

2. Start Regedit.exe and change the following registry keys:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Policies\Policies (then press "values")\ 00001001 = 2 -->Change the value data from 2 to 1

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Policies\Policies\00001005 = 16 --> Change the value data from 16 to 40

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Policies\Policies\00001017 = 128 --> Change the value data from 128 to 144

That's it! If you had problems installing games/programs/tweaks that required you to application unlock your phone, you should be good now.

2: Installing ClearVue on your memory card to save space:

This is a great office suite that comes on the 2125 CD for viewing PowerPoint presentations, Excel worksheets, Word documents, and PDF files. If you have the suite installed, uninstall it first. Reboot the phone and then reinstall it again, but choose to install it to the storage card.

After it's installed, use the file explorer in Activesync (on your pc) to browse to your storage card.

Step 1.

You will see a new /windows folder where ClearVue was installed.

Rename this folder to /ClearVue Suite (or whatever floats your boat for that matter).

If you haven't installed any other programs to your storage card then create the "program files" folder on your card first. Then MOVE this, the /ClearVue Suite folder into the /Program Files folder.

Step 2.

Next browse to /program files/ClearVue Suite (it's faster to do this with Activesync explorer on your pc)

Create shortcuts to the following files.

WTCVDocV.exe (doc viewer)

WTCVPDFV.exe (pdf viewer)

WTCVPresV.exe (ppt viewer)

WTCVWSV.exe (xls viewer)

Now copy or cut those shortcuts and put them in the following folder on the phone (not on the storage card)

/windows/Start Menu

(You can also create a folder in the start menu to hold all of these shortcuts if you like)

Step 3.

Now fire up Regedit.exe on your phone and go to the following key.

/HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT/.pdf

Under "Value Data" change "docfile" to "pdffile"

Reboot the phone.

Step 4.

Copy a sample doc, xls, pdf, ppt to your phone.

Using the File Manager on the phone, browse to the location of your sample files.

Highlight one of the files, then press the Menu softkey.

Press File

Then Associate

Scroll down to the associated program (presentation viewer for powerpoint, worksheet viewer for excel, etc), highlight it, then press the Done softkey.

Repeat that for all of the file types, then you should be golden. If you don't see the ClearVue icons on these files afterwards, then reboot and you should be ok.

3. Internet Explorer Cache/Temporary files on the storage card:

You'll soon find that surfing the internet takes a lot of memory, so use Internet Explorer Card Cache to put Temporary Internet files on the memory card. Just copy the file to the storage card, and follow these steps:

- Run Pocket IE, and from the options menu, clear the Cache, History and Cookies.

- Use Task Manager to close down Pocket IE

- Open the Card Cache.CAB file to install it (specify to the storage card)

- Run Pocket IE

- All done, you should now have a Pocket IE directory on your storage card with 3 subdirectories.

4. Copying contacts from the sim card to the phone:

If all your contacts are on the sim card from your old phone, use M2 Sim Copy to copy all your contacts to your phone. Move the M2 Sim Copy.CAB file to the storage card and just open it to install it. The only problem is that you'll now have 2 copies of all contacts, but once you delete the extras you can add speed/voice dialing to your contacts. Also, when using the program it'll say "0 contacts copied" or something like that, but don't worry; it copied them anyway.

5. TCPMP Media Player (My favorite program) :cheesy:

If you're like me, you used Windows Media Player on your pc to sync your music videos to your phone but soon realized that you can't watch them in full screen and the image is small. This marvelous program (in conjunction with Pocket DivX Encoder) allows you to play your music videos and movies in full screen mode with great resolution. You can download Pocket DivX Encoder from http://divx.ppccool.com/

Install TCPMP on your phone and Pocket DivX on your PC. To install TCPMP, make sure your phone is connected to your pc and then double-click the installation file. Remember to switch the installation location from the Device to the Storage card when asked.

To transfer your music videos to your phone, encode them with Pocket DivX to shrink their size and then copy them to a folder on your Storage Card using ActiveSync Explorer (don't sync them with Windows Media Player).

When using Pocket DivX, use the Pocket PC setting rather than the smartphone setting because you'll get better resolution and the size will be about the same. Also, set the Video quality to the max (20) and Sound to the max (6) for the best videos. When using TCPMP you can view the videos in Full screen mode. It's amazing! I have 30 of the latest music videos and the ladies love my phone. Oh yeah! :D/

You can also encode your avi/mpg movies from your pc the same way (there's no size limit). I currently have The Transporter 2 on my phone and it's only 280MB (it was originally 700MB).

With TCPMP you can create playlists for your videos and songs, so I really don't even use Windows Media Player on my phone anymore. I just put everything on my storage card and I'm good to go with TCPMP.

6. Homescreen "Appointments" Tweak:

To change what's displayed as “No upcoming appointments” to something of your choice then use Regedit and go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER, System, State, Appointments, HomeScreen and edit the ‘subject’ string. Change the value to whatever you want displayed (or leave it blank). The good thing about it is that as soon as an appointment is added or comes up then it returns to its default value to keep you informed.

7. Repeating Alarm:

The alarm is kinda lame on this phone because it doesn't repeat itself and just sounds/beeps once. You can either set the alarm to "increasing" under settings so that it sort of repeats (every 10 seconds or so), or install Repeating Alarm and it'll repeat every second until you turn it off.

8. ActiveSync Toggle

Use this program on your PC to remove the ActiveSync system tray icon when you're not using ActiveSync (because it stays there whether or not ActiveSync is on). On some slower computers, this will free up some much needed memory.

9. True Connect

This is a really cool program that lets you use your mouse and keyboard on your phone. You can type e-mails/text messages, open programs, etc. The 14 Day trial is attached below.

10. Street Duel - Underground Racing by Pixelogic

This is one of the coolest racing/driving games for smartphones, and it works great on the Cingular 2125. It's almost like Driver 3 for console games. The 2125 is such a good phone that the graphics don't even slow down on the full details setting! You can download the demo or buy it for $14.99 from Clickgamer.com

Make sure you select "smartphone" rather than "pocket pc".

Well, that's it. I hope you find this post useful. Let me know if you do. Thanks

-Patrick =D>

I would like to know if this is also applicable in unlocking my sim with a HP Ipaq H6315 locked to T-mobile?

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Guest balkiWM5

Hi there!

Anyone knows how to remove the "Text Messages (0)" message on the home screen when there are no text messages? I saw a registry hack somehwere on the net a while ago but can't seem to find it again.

Thanks in advance

Balki

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Guest sesro1978
Yep you need to run the SDA Application Unlock as well. Worked perfectly on my SP5. I have done it twice.

Hi,

I'm receiving the following message when I try to run the SDA_ApplicationUnlock on my Cingular 2125:

"SDA_ApplicationUnlock is not a valid Windows CE application"

I have already changed the registry values to the values indicated in the opening of this post; that is-

00001001 to value of 1

00001005 to value of 40

00001017 to value of 144

None of these values reverted back to the original values once changed and the phone rebooted.

Do I need to run the SDA application at all?

Any help understanding this would be appreciated.

~Seth

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I got a bunch of questions, please:

1. Is there a compatible ROM (HTC, Imate, Qtek) that I could use with the Cingular 2125?

2. If there is, is there a step by step guide on how to install a different ROM for the Cingular 2125?

Thanks in advance.

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Recently had to replace phone via exchange since the Joystick was getting hard to operate. The replacement phone came with updated rom (2.x) installed.

I notice when I play music on this new phone, my right channel is always softer and with less Bass than the Left channel. This is the case even with Mono-mixed music. I thought this is a glitch with the particular phone, so I arranged with another exchange. New phone arrived but with same problem. I checked with my friends' T-Mobile SDA and it does not have the problem (no rom update either).

Anybody notice the same with the ROM? You may have to listen carefully to even notice that with Stereo music. Or did I just have bad luck with 2 phones from the same bad batch?

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Guest sandcrab02

Is there a way to alphabetically order your windows media player songs?

Whats a good free program to have a good photo contact when someone calls. The Audiovox has a good one thats default with the phone, is there another program like that?

THANKS!

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Guest bowdowntozoltan
Hi,

I'm receiving the following message when I try to run the SDA_ApplicationUnlock on my Cingular 2125:

"SDA_ApplicationUnlock is not a valid Windows CE application"

I have already changed the registry values to the values indicated in the opening of this post; that is-

00001001 to value of 1

00001005 to value of 40

00001017 to value of 144

None of these values reverted back to the original values once changed and the phone rebooted.

Do I need to run the SDA application at all?

Any help understanding this would be appreciated.

~Seth

Thats because you run SDA Unlock from your computer when your phone is connected via Activesync.

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Hello all,

I have a cingular 2125 and I'm useing Cingular service with it, but I would like to use it with T-Mobile. I have unlocked it but I can't use it to get my email or surf the internet. How do I change the setting so I can. Because the phone is the some as the T-Mobile

SDA but I don't want to buy another phone just to get the internet with T-mobile. (tmobile is my work phone and they pay for all the data and internet) trying to save some money... hehehe ;) I thought if I unlock the phone I would be able to use it on both services like my Sony Ericsson P910a.

Thanks

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Hello all,

I have a cingular 2125 and I'm useing Cingular service with it, but I would like to use it with T-Mobile. I have unlocked it but I can't use it to get my email or surf the internet. How do I change the setting so I can. Because the phone is the some as the T-Mobile

SDA but I don't want to buy another phone just to get the internet with T-mobile. (tmobile is my work phone and they pay for all the data and internet) trying to save some money... hehehe ;) I thought if I unlock the phone I would be able to use it on both services like my Sony Ericsson P910a.

Thanks

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Guest GoolGaul

Just wanted to share...

I got a replacement 2125 - by directional button ceased to function. Copying almost everything was easy.

Getting my contacts over to the new one was not so easy, but I figured out a way...

PIM.VOL is the name of the contacts file. You can;t just copy it out to your PC with activesync, becuase it is ALWAYS "in use".

SO, i copied PIM.VOL into a folder on my phone.

Then I could copy it out thru activesync onto my PC where I renamed it to PIM2.VOL.

When I connected my replacement phone, I was able to copy PIM2.VOL to the root directory

for the phone. Rename the existing (probably empty) PIM.VOL to something else, and lastly

rename PIM2.VOL to PIM.VOL.

Sounds more convoluted than it is... it only took about 2 minutes to do.

Of course that is after I spent about 2 hours trying to figure it out.

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hello, I just got the Cingular 2125 as a hand me down phone and I didn't get anything with it. just the phone and charger. Does any one have tips for me to sync it with my computer?

steph

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hello, I just got the Cingular 2125 as a hand me down phone and I didn't get anything with it. just the phone and charger. Does any one have tips for me to sync it with my computer?

steph

You just need to go to the microsoft website and download Activesync, install it to your computer, and then you're set. The cable needed is a typical mini-usb cable.

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Guest sreeni19

hi everybody,

Iam a begginer to this forum.All the information displayed was very usefull. I am from India, My Brother stays in USA, while he is coming to India on vacation he has carried his cingular2125 mobile.I would like to use it in Indian local networks.He has also carried the unlock code issued by the cingular provider.

Now please help me out in step by step procedure to unlock the phone and use it in India.And also i donot have a getting started CD .So please let me know from where i can download all the drivers nessasary for 2125 mobile.

I am Eagerly waiting a reply from the members.

Thankyou

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