Guest Rarebit Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 was trying to access my orange email on the m3100, but got an error. so I removed the lower part of the url to leave the domain only, like so: http://mdspps.orange.co.uk/ got the Orange Messenger Friendly user trial page... This would explain why the m3100 (or any other current devices?) doesn't ship with MS Messenger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rickwookie Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 (edited) This is interesting. So this is the network's next big thing? Remove MSN messenger and replace it with a very similar client that allows you to only chat with limited number users on the same network who also are using the same new unheard of client, as opposed to say the hole of the msn network? Brilliant! :D Just looking through the guide I noticed this... ..."Unlike most instant messaging clients, Orange Messenger does not allow you to be added to someone's Contact list without your permission. Likewise, you must get permission from others to add them to your Contact list." Which messaging client have they been using that allows anyone to add you to thier contact list without authorisation? Edited August 21, 2006 by rickwookie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul (MVP) Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Damn that app is ugly :D P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jimbouk Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Havent read it all, but understood previously that there idea was an orange IM app that allowed you to chat via their Im client over gprs or text (ie revenue enhancing). Am I being silly or doesn't MSN allow you to do exactly the same (ie the text to mobiles version)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MARKUKCOUK Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 This is interesting. So this is the network's next big thing? Remove MSN messenger and replace it with a very similar client that allows you to only chat with limited number users on the same network who also are using the same new unheard of client, as opposed to say the hole of the msn network? Brilliant! :D Just looking through the guide I noticed this... ..."Unlike most instant messaging clients, Orange Messenger does not allow you to be added to someone's Contact list without your permission. Likewise, you must get permission from others to add them to your Contact list." Which messaging client have they been using that allows anyone to add you to thier contact list without authorisation? You can set MSN up like that. Its under privacy "Anyone can send me messages" or "Contacts need to add me to send messages". You can also add "All Others" to your allow list. Although for the past 2 years, microsoft made it default to the more secure option. However, before that, the default was allow all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WILBUR Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 This is interesting. So this is the network's next big thing? Remove MSN messenger and replace it with a very similar client that allows you to only chat with limited number users on the same network who also are using the same new unheard of client, as opposed to say the hole of the msn network? Brilliant! :D Actually the service is supposed to be interoperable across the different mobile networks (except H3G, who are sticking with MSN), each of whom will launch a version of the service under their own brand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest w411y Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Welsh people will know where I'm coming from when I say uch-a-fi! Why are they bothering? Unless it allows people to contact MSNers and Yahoo Messengers I dont think this is going to catch on. And lets hope that isn't the finished GUI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NikLP Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 The whole scenario is a farce, they can't tell if you're using Messenger or Agile anyway. Although the idiots out there won't know that and will install this, and then we'll be left with another steaming great pile of proprietary interfaces/protocols, much like the browser wars, which only lasted ... oooooh ... oh wait they haven't finished yet! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Monolithix (MVP) Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 This has been coming since the start of this year. MSN has been dropped, the networks are installing their own system with a different billing structure (which works out more pricy no doubt). T-Mob were first to drop PocketMSN way back when the MDA Pro was launched, Orange followed suit in May with the M600 and recently with the M3100. Nice that we customers get a choice, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pondrew Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 Funnily enough though T-Mobile forgot to specify that their rom updates shouldn't have Pocket MSN in. Result being that the MDA Pro's sold with the latest rom DID have Messenger as did every device updated. Remains to be seen if the Vario II will or won't have it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest paul1664 Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 This is quite interesting... if this is designed to be used cross network - ie. the network operators are colluding - at the expense of blocking MSN / Yahoo / All other Messengers, then there could be a case of operating a cartel to answer to. Anyone know a good lawyer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pete.major Posted August 21, 2006 Report Share Posted August 21, 2006 This is quite interesting... if this is designed to be used cross network - ie. the network operators are colluding - at the expense of blocking MSN / Yahoo / All other Messengers, then there could be a case of operating a cartel to answer to. Anyone know a good lawyer? Man, from reading the document it looks crappy. Compare it to Live Messenger and it looks outdated before it's even released. Does anyone know if this is supposed to run on all phones (Nokia etc). Is it Java based? If so it's probably a "lowest common denominator" piece of software ie. can only implement features available on all phones. Again unlike messenger which leverages integration into WM5. Sigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NikLP Posted August 22, 2006 Report Share Posted August 22, 2006 Well if O think I'm installing a JVM just to run some POS messenger client that looks like that and costs me money, they've got another thing coming!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Please sign in to comment
You will be able to leave a comment after signing in
Sign In Now