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Kaiser on T-Mobile "any day now" and surprising price


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Just heard from our account manager at T-Mobile that the Kaiser is coming "any day now" (he won't be more specific than that) as the Vario III... nothing new there.

What he has said is that the "trade price" is £320 SIM-free and £265 with a contract. Now this is for public sector, and generally (because we pay £0 line rental) we pay higher prices [edit: than you pay in the high street] for the handsets.

That seems like a very nice price!

He's a reliable guy whom I've dealt with for some time, so he's got no reason to make stuff up as far as I can see.

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Just heard from our account manager at T-Mobile that the Kaiser is coming "any day now" (he won't be more specific than that) as the Vario III... nothing new there.

What he has said is that the "trade price" is £320 SIM-free and £265 with a contract. Now this is for public sector, and generally (because we pay £0 line rental) we pay higher prices [edit: than you pay in the high street] for the handsets.

That seems like a very nice price!

He's a reliable guy whom I've dealt with for some time, so he's got no reason to make stuff up as far as I can see.

I've been popping into the Southend T-Mobile shop for the last few weeks & today I finally got an update that the Vario III is being released on Saturday 15th September..not heard of a Saturday release for anything before??

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I've been popping into the Southend T-Mobile shop for the last few weeks & today I finally got an update that the Vario III is being released on Saturday 15th September..not heard of a Saturday release for anything before??

Don't we already have a date for the vario3? didn't htc press release say the beginning of October? i wish it was earlier but arn't there press relases usually accurate for these things.

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Hi Guys and Girls. I'm new on here so a quick intro to you all.

I'm Kinda new to all this Windows Mobile stuff so you all will have to bare with me please. I had an SPV C600 for sometime and absolutely hated it... untill I swapped it for a Nokia N95 - THE WORST PHONE I'VE EVER HAD!!! Been through 6 handsets and all were faulty!

I was gonna go for the iPhone (being an Apple PPC G5 owner). But then thought the phone is all show and no go. The considered the SE W960. And was very close to holding out for a release... untill the Kaiser caught my eye.

Unfortunately I can't really afford / justify the HTC version so will wait for the Vario III. Although I do totally hate the look of the T Mobile version. But hopefully the functions will somewhat disguise the ugliness of it ;)

Anyone know if FIFA 07 will be available for this phone? Only reason I ask is that's the only thing that has made me hold onto my N95 :wub:

PS All be warned. As I mentioned I am kinda new to all this Windows Mobile lark... and am also not very good with IT / Techno jargon - so I'll be firing a fair few questions at all you when I get the phone :D

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York's T-Mobile said "before Xmas", they did have the flyer though:

The Southend store has had that info card for about 3 weeks or so.

The German T-Mobile site now has basic info now..looking like an October release now :wub:

They had the Vario II about 3/4 weeks before we did last year and I believe they had the Touch before we did too.

T-Mobile.de Vario III page

Didnt realise it was going to be heavier than the Vario II ;)

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Looking at the two t-mobile pics something's not quite right. The German t-mobile unit (which, let's face it, is probably the more accurate of the two) has different key printing and shapes as well as MDA and t-mobile branding. The UK flyer on the other hand looks generic. Is t-mobile UK reduced to producing its own marketing materials from pic it can find on the internet or early samples from HTC?

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Possibly some bad news for all T-Mobile users wanting the Vario III. Apparently t-mobile are ready to stall the release of the phone.

Check this link out:

http://www.msmobilenews.com/windows-mobile...any-time-2.html

Not a huge surprise - T-Mobile firmware updates for older HTC phones seemed to be a few months behind HTC's own updates. So I'd guess T-Mobile's updates are taking some time to develop and test to their satisfaction (which may include making sure people can't easily unlock them, bypass any limits T-Mobile put in such as disabling MSN Messenger on basic WnW, etc.)

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I think I might do my sums and figure out if I should upgrade on tmobile and ask ONLY for a discount off my monthly bills and then buy the HTC branded device... That device also looks a lot better than the t mobile offering ;)

I'm guessing t mobile would charge me approx £200 for the handset on my Flext W&W 25 (12 month contract). So I'd need to get approx £20 per month off my bill. Hmmmmmmmmmm?????????

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I think I might do my sums and figure out if I should upgrade on tmobile and ask ONLY for a discount off my monthly bills and then buy the HTC branded device... That device also looks a lot better than the t mobile offering ;)

I'm guessing t mobile would charge me approx £200 for the handset on my Flext W&W 25 (12 month contract). So I'd need to get approx £20 per month off my bill. Hmmmmmmmmmm?????????

I just had my 18 month contract on Flext expire, and the Vario 2 is £289 on upgrade - so I suspect the Kaiser will be nearer £400

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If they charge that much for it, they'll lose out, as people will, I suspect, be prepared to pay a little more and get an unlocked version and stick with their current provider (presumably getting a "no handset" discount as well).

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Crazy thing is that the cost of the phone for a new contract is considerably less than upgrading!

I'm sticking with my old phone. T-Mobile are a good price for what you get.

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Crazy thing is that the cost of the phone for a new contract is considerably less than upgrading!

I'm sticking with my old phone. T-Mobile are a good price for what you get.

Not really that crazy, low price for new contracts increases their customer base, renewals just prevent churn to other networks, it's been that way since mobiles were introduced.

Gordon

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Not necessarily guys. My mate upgraded to an N95 on a 12 month flext 25 contract, on the day the N95 came out, for £80. And his bills each month were only around £35 (inc line rental).

So, in context to my mates N95 deal, I'm presuming the Vario 3 will be around the £150 (ish) mark - depending on what contract you upgrade to.

As Mr Clark said, most people who buy this kinda phone know what they are buying and would therefore most probably go with the HTC, and IMO the better version of the phone... plus it looks a lot nicer than the Vario 3 ;)

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it does make sense... after a fashion ;) Depends on what perspective you look at it. They are treating new customers better than existing ones, which is likely to alienate some of their existing customers.

Can always cancel and rejoin, but is a pain.

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Could anyone point me at a summary of how the HTC version is superior to the T-mobile? I currently havea Vario 1, am out of contract and thought the simplest thing was to upgrade to a Vario 3. But it might be worth buying HTC if it's markedly superior. Thanks

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The prices on the web site are very high for upgrades. I'm in the same boat.

My wife upgraded last month to a nokia 6120c that was listed as £69 to upgrade but was free to new customers. A quick call to the loyalty dept got her the phone for free. I would expect a better discount on a £25 / £30 tarif.

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Gutted! Just looked at my upgrade page as i am now out of contract and the Vario2 is still listed as £250! Sod that! The Vario3 will be stupidly expensive! ;)

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Not necessarily dude.

What they may do is drop the price of the Vario 2 and add another £50 odd for the Vario 3 on the price of the Vario 2.

To put it a little simpler - the Vario 2 will go down to £200. And the Vario 3 will be priced at £300. These are all assumptions/presumptions/guesses/approximates etc etc etc ;)

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Not necessarily dude.

What they may do is drop the price of the Vario 2 and add another £50 odd for the Vario 3 on the price of the Vario 2.

To put it a little simpler - the Vario 2 will go down to £200. And the Vario 3 will be priced at £300. These are all assumptions/presumptions/guesses/approximates etc etc etc ;)

Actually, its more likely that the Vario II stocks will be sold off at a reduced rate to clear them out as the are now EOL and the replacement, the Vario III, will come in at the same price the Vario II is at now.

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