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Hi all,

The 400Mhz processor of the Kaiser should P on the performance of my old 196Mhz XDA Mini S. Now, to be fair, I had overclocked my Mini to 260Mhz for video playback, but that's still a long way from 400Mhz.

Thing is video playback SUCKS compared to my old phone! I have a bunch of WMV videos that are really really jerky in Windows Media Player but what's wierder is that these files won't open in any other player. They all state that they don't have WMV [9] codecs.

What's going on?

a) how come performace is so bad with WMP

;) why don't WMV files work in other players?

I have installed a fair bit of software on my device, but virtually nothing to do with media playback or codecs.

Confused and frustrated.

Dave

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Hi all,

The 400Mhz processor of the Kaiser should P on the performance of my old 196Mhz XDA Mini S. Now, to be fair, I had overclocked my Mini to 260Mhz for video playback, but that's still a long way from 400Mhz.

Thing is video playback SUCKS compared to my old phone! I have a bunch of WMV videos that are really really jerky in Windows Media Player but what's wierder is that these files won't open in any other player. They all state that they don't have WMV [9] codecs.

What's going on?

a) how come performace is so bad with WMP

B) why don't WMV files work in other players?

I have installed a fair bit of software on my device, but virtually nothing to do with media playback or codecs.

Confused and frustrated.

Dave

a) Windows Mobile 2003 ran everything in RAM, WM6 uses a mix of RAM/FLASH. Its just not as fast, but you'll be glad if your battery ever runs out.

B) Bit hard to say, you don't even mention which other players you are using, and did you use the same players on your mini s?

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Sorry...

- TMPCP (is that the right acronym) is/was my media player of choice, but this fails to play my WMV files. I've also tried CorePlayer.

- I can appreciate what you're saying about RAM/Flash usage, but once the application has loaded in to memory, how on earth is playback performance affected?

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Sorry...

- TMPCP (is that the right acronym) is/was my media player of choice, but this fails to play my WMV files. I've also tried CorePlayer.

- I can appreciate what you're saying about RAM/Flash usage, but once the application has loaded in to memory, how on earth is playback performance affected?

you only have 128 mb of ram, so you cannt have the whole clip tranfered to the ram; i guess it is down to the data transfer rate of your SD card, have you tried the SDHC ?

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WMV's play fine in my inbuilt media player. What data rate have you encoded them to?

Does TMPCP even support the WMV format? it doesn't list it in the file/open file types option on mine!

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WMV's play fine in my inbuilt media player. What data rate have you encoded them to?

Does TMPCP even support the WMV format? it doesn't list it in the file/open file types option on mine!

What ya have to do.......

Ok using the cab install TCPMP 0.72

Now unzip the two zips into that folder, overwriting anything it asks....

Set TCPMP to direct Video and vualla ;)

TCPMP 0.72

TCPMP 0.8

WMV9 Codecs

Flash Video Codecs

(I would recomend disableing client security before doing this, else you will have to click yes to all plugins being allowed on first run)

This (assuming it all works) should sort you out, just go into the options and set the thing as the default player for all the formats you want it to do.

Hope that helps

Oh and PS... Just so you know, the reason that TCPMP does not play WMV (or WMA) on WM6, is because Microsoft changed the DLL names when they went from 5->6, this basically replaces the files. If you have another player that used to work with WMx files, and now does not, just pop the WMV9 Codecs files into the Windows folder on the device and it will probably start working again. These are just butchered versions of the WM6 Codecs, that have had there namespace changed back to the WM5 versions.

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tried the above, installed the first file, then overwritten with the second, installed the cab for flash and copied over the wm6 etc codecs into the program folder .. is that right?

in m.youtube, didn't open the youtube files, streaming error; just tried using the htc streamvideo app, any ideas on how to do this right?

x v3

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@ the OP, I had a T-mob vario which was the same as the O2 Mini-S, as I understand it. I also find my new phone has shocking WMV playback in the built in WMP, worse than my old phone. Everything else is far faster - I can play even full res divx etc files acceptably in Core. I splashed out on Core player to go with the new phone, I always used TCPMP before.

As you say, TCPMP and Core won't play WMV :wub: I'm sure an old version of TCPMP used to play it, but I need this version to use the flash plugins for youtube etc. *Every* WMV file I've tried to play is really jerky. Maybe this should be in the annoyances thread ;)

I'll try backing up with Sprite backup then using the_ape's patch.

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OkeyDokey, after a little research it seems that Youtube use RTSP... TCPMP does not yet support the protocol (bummer).... I then tried m.youtube.com from the browser on the device and streaming does not work, tried it from the PC, and streaming does not work..... odd! EDIT - Does play in quicktime, nothing else though.

Hicks, WMV works fine, oh and the replacement DLL's dont overwrite anything else, so no issues with backup (still worth doing though to keep your mind at ease).

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OkeyDokey, after a little research it seems that Youtube use RTSP... TCPMP does not yet support the protocol (bummer).... I then tried m.youtube.com from the browser on the device and streaming does not work, tried it from the PC, and streaming does not work..... odd! EDIT - Does play in quicktime, nothing else though.

Hicks, WMV works fine, oh and the replacement DLL's dont overwrite anything else, so no issues with backup (still worth doing though to keep your mind at ease).

Forget m.youtube..... Great work-around to watch Full YouTube vids, Check out my comments in this thread: http://www.modaco.com/Youtube-t259946.html

By the way, thanks for the WM codecs...a little "stuttery" when played through TCPMP but it'll do for now.

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Just simply change your video driver to GDI, or RawFramebuffer.

I did the same thing playing DivX movies. At first i had really choppy playback so i changed the driver to RawFrameBuffer and it got better although a little choppy so i changed the vid quality to Low and all is well. I had to do the same with GDI. Lower quality isn't too bad... I can live with it aslong as the vid playback is smooth ;)

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the_ape > you're a genius!

everyone else > do what the_ape says ;)

Trust me... WMV playback SUCKS in WMP by default. You'll need TMPCP or CorePlayer (as long as you don't use DirectDraw) but if you following the instructions you'll get silky smooth playback.

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Thanks so much Ape !

I was getting terrible benchmarks and choppy ass playback with the 0.72 version I had installed.

I followed your directions above and now I can playback native iPod encoded h.264 at over 100%

It also fixed the problem I had of the Sirius Radio feeds not playing in TCPMP.

Love you in a non-faggot way man !

TBFL

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  • 4 months later...
No problem at all people, share what knowledge/experiences you have, makes life easier for others......

Ive tried all of these, Ive even got a Premier 10mb / sec card and if makes no difference I still have dog sh** jerky video play back - my old fuj. loox t830 played these no problems at all, my "so called" to of the range TYTNII is rubbish!!! - anyone reading this that hasnt already, head this warning: Do not buy a TYTNII - they are rubbish, do not buy a Premier "FAST" SD card - it makes no difference and dont bother with TCPMP - it doesnt really make any difference, just get something else to play your videos!!!! well done microsoft and HTC !!! NOT !!!

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So has anyone got TCMP working with this ROM, TLR Kaiser 3.08.02.21 ? So far no matter which version I try it crashes without even starting.

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