Cell + WiFi positioning from Navizon, plus make money on the move!

[Guest Fozza]

If you're running any of the V3 Betas (which you are), hit 'Check for Update' :)

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Bah!! will you please STOP making complicated jobs simple!!

:D

[Guest dr_nick]

paul,

how far off a version of cameraware withnavizon that does not require an always on gprs/3g connection for those of use without data plans (yet)?

thanks!

[Guest Paul (MVP)]

Possibly tomorrow, more likely Monday!

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[Guest Fozza]

Possibly tomorrow, more likely Monday!

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Anychance of a sync button that allows you to manually send your data over gprs or 3g?

[Guest bigdish]

Hi All

Drove to London from Yorkshire and accumulated enough points for my first reward !

The number of ap's in residential areas is incredible.

The number of unsecured ap's found :)

I have a bit of travelling to do in Surrey then back up North.

r

Andrew

[Guest Paul (MVP)]

Anychance of a sync button that allows you to manually send your data over gprs or 3g?

The next version will feature:

- 10 minute 'autosync' (optional)

- 'Sync Now' button

- An option to disable the sync on exit

Perfect right? :)

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[Guest juxt@pose]

Possibly tomorrow, more likely Monday!

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Well I'm confused :) . I use Nodata and have everything turned off. But still have successfully synced my CameraAware/Naivzon data on at least couple of occassions. I assummed that it synced via i-net connection either wirelessly at Home or Activesyncivly (sp) in the office.

Edited January 17, 2008 by juxt@pose

[Guest Fozza]

The next version will feature:

- 10 minute 'autosync' (optional)

- 'Sync Now' button

- An option to disable the sync on exit

Perfect right? :D

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There can be no denying it ...

You are good.

Although for some reason my latest download of CAMERAware has erm

no camera database in it. I have checked for updates I'm up to date.

: :)

[Guest petec500]

I've had this running on my Touch for a few days and despite it locking up every time i "stop" it (which i've just learnt not to do before i sync my data!), all is running well.

However, i've now loaded on my old Qtek 8310 and although it runs and logs GPS and Wifi data (both with green lights), the phone light never goes green, so it wont log cells. I've got a PAYG SIM in there with credit on, so why wont it recognise the phone?

[Guest Paul (MVP)]

DId you download the certificate CAB and install that too?

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[Guest Paul (MVP)]

There can be no denying it ...

You are good.

Although for some reason my latest download of CAMERAware has erm

no camera database in it. I have checked for updates I'm up to date.

: :D

Oddness!

Delete any text files in your CamerAware\Databases directory and update again :)

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[Guest petec500]

DId you download the certificate CAB and install that too?

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I'm pretty sure i did. When i went to the Navizon homepage on my 8310, it told me to download something about a certificate cab first, which i did and installed it, then i downloaded and installed the application.

EDIT - just un-installed, then re-installed from scratch, making sure i downloaded and installed the cert cab first. Still no different - Wifi and GPS light on, Phone light off, even though i can make and receive calls.

Edited January 17, 2008 by petec500

[Guest Mexiken]

After reading nearly every post, I have come to the conclusion: Dangelica and I are in the same boat.

I have an AT&T Q9h. I use Google Maps and WLS, and they pick up my GPS using the "Intermediate Driver" set up by the Windows Mobile OS. There is however no option for that on Navizon and I can't get the settings to work for it.

I have the Modaco hack for the Blackjack that also worked for Q9's that sets the COM port to 4 or 5 or whatever, but I dont want to use it. It drains battery like crazy. Ironically, when I used to use it, it actually made it work with the Intermediate Driver instead. Don't think it actually ever worked on a COM port anyway. Anyway, I can acquire GPS signal on BOTH Google Maps and WLS, but it won't pick up position in Navizon, even while concurrently running them, while leaving only Navizon on, whatever.

Does anyone know the correct settings for a WM6 device ???? Or more specifically, a Q9h ???? I tried the suggestions you folks posted for Dangelica, none of it worked. It didn't even light the GPS icon green with those settings. I've managed to get the light to turn green, but it still doesn't recognize any positions. Can anyone help me out ????

I have a "Navizon" thread started on EverythingQ, so anything you post here I'll gladly relay to them, and vice versa. Please help. I'd like to start mapping places around my home and letting my friends download the program so they can all have "GPS" too =)

[Guest Paul (MVP)]

The Q9H COM3 hack doesn't drain the battery.

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[Guest Mexiken]

Well maybe I have the older hack or something then. Can you direct to said hack ???? I tried a quick search and couldn't find anything.

[Guest Fozza]

Oddness!

Delete any text files in your CamerAware\Databases directory and update again :)

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Ok done that re registered and it has now pulled down the latest Camera DB

Will try it out tomorrow.

Inciddently I used CA3 to aquire my last needed

1500 points this afternoon to get my 5th reward!

I hope I am still somewhere near the top of the Modaco

referal league table?

[Guest Mexiken]

Never mind Paul. I was using the OLD SCHOOL Com 5 hack. I saw that you updated and made a COM 3 hack. I will install, and install GPS Test 1.0.4, and go for a drive and see if I can get Navizon to pick up the signal. Everything else works. Thanks for your response. I see how many threads you are actually active in, and how helpful you are. Hats off to you. Us Q9h users would be lost without you.

[Guest Mexiken]

So I've returned. And here are my results:

I used COM 1 for program port, Hardware none. 9600 Baud rate. I set these using the GSPID Windows Utility.

I rebooted. Then I set the Navizon to COM 1 (it now said "ActiveDevice" where it said "?" before). It worked like a charm. It started reporting my position based on my GPS location. I finally got the 2 to lock up, thanks to setting it to COM 1.

However, it did not report ANY towers. From Paul's and others other posts (albeit with other phones), it seems that even if you find a tower that has already been found, you get the credit still. However, this was not the case for me. After reviewing the coverage maps on Navizon, I noticed that I drove in both areas with "located" towers and stretches of freeway that did NOT have a tower for miles around it. This, if nothing else, PROVES that I should have located towers, but did not. So either something is still wrong with the GPS settings or the program itself. I believe its the program itself. It seems to crash quite a bit and everything else is working just fine with the GPS.

I will post in the Navizon forums about my testing. Oh yes, I had GPS Test running the whole time, and it wasn't the signal. I had the green light running 95% of the time.

[Guest Dangelica]

I'm envious Mex.. wish this worked for the BJ II maybe I should trade it in. I still have 14 days left.

If anyone finds out how to get it to work for the BJ II please let me know.

[Guest Mexiken]

Don't be. First of all, it doesn't report towers. Which means I don't get any credit for finding towers. Aside from the rewards, it sucks that I can't help map out the area, especially when the GPS shows me as active and tracks me in the maps. It might as well not work. I have Google Maps and WLS for my position, and they work well locking up now that I have the Windows utility.

And second, ever since it worked like a champ the first time, it crashes almost all the time now. I will need to post on the Navizon forum about that. Its pretty bad, makes it almost unusable now. Even when it doesn't, it takes about 2-3 mins to crash.

[Guest Mexiken]

Actually though, other than the better camera, why did you choose a Samsung over a Motorola, and especially a PDA ????

I used to work for AT&T until recently, and I can tell you Samsungs had FAR more random, weird, trouble than did Motorola. Motorola's had their problems yes, but it was always the same problem multiple times. Samsung was just crazy. Plus, Motorola phones are generally MUCH more customizable than Samsung phones. However, WM6 limits some of this. But still, my roommate has a BJ II because he still works for AT&T, and can attest to my Q9h running circles around it. Motorola also has MUCH better signal, at least on AT&T. That has never been in question, except for some older Nokia candy bar phones, those are by far the best signal phones ever made on a North American GSM network.

Sorry if it sounded like a sales pitch. But if you can get over the wideness of the phone, you should find the keys and the general robustness of the phone to be a welcomed improvement. Plus, it seems that the GPS is working much better on these phones =)

[Guest Wilf]

hi guys

has anyone used Navizon in France? - if so - what sort of quality are the maps that you download. I'm wondering if they are up to Ordnance survey type standard so that i could use it for ski-ing (rather than buy the memroy map OS type map for £50!!!

cheers

Wilf

[Guest NuShrike]

I then foolishly pressed STOP rather than just sync over 3G and it locked the

program. Gave me my spinning disk and froze.

I have now lost all that data which would have given me another reward!!!

It saves to file so you can sync after the next reboot. Same behavior if you use the CamerAware version.

I've been through all of this, and I've only lost data ONLY because the GPS hadn't locked yet when I was already moving around.

That must be Paul at #1 in the stats now.

Edited January 18, 2008 by NuShrike

[Guest markvader]

Just picked up my first 1500 points, followed ur affiliate link paul, not bad for a few miles. doesnt look like theres anyone else in Northern Ireland on the system.

Bit perplexed by the apparent O2 cell mast on my roof, oh well more points for me.

Mark

[Guest Fozza]

It saves to file so you can sync after the next reboot. Same behavior if you use the CamerAware version.

I've been through all of this, and I've only lost data ONLY because the GPS hadn't locked yet when I was already moving around.

That must be Paul at #1 in the stats now.

No saving here?

When I rebooted it had put me back to zero!!